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Old 02-23-2012, 12:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Built 1.3 8V vs. 1.6 16V

So I have the opportunity to pick up a Lee Built Stage 2 Dressed 1.3 motor: Stage 2 Assuming that I throw a My-Side 2 on it and run it with the proper header, how would it compare with the 1.6 16V swap? Specifically, how much MORE can I get out of the stock 1.6? I'm replacing a bone stock, tired 1.3 so I'm guessing that I will be almost doubling the power with this motor.

Keep in mind that I am looking for it to be smog legal. Mui Importante!
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Old 02-23-2012, 12:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I went with a 16 valve in a Samurai once.

Hands Down, The Best thing I ever did to a Samurai!

Fairly easy, I sent the wiring harness out though.

Find a wrecked rig, you keep the engine, sell off the leftovers. I think I was in my swap for around $700 once it was done. I sold a few parts from the donor.

My opinion on Built Small Engine vs. Big Stock Engine is, High Performance = High Maintenance. I'd rather have a Big Stock Engine that is able to make the power and torque without breaking a sweat. I don't want a Squirrel doing the work of an Elephant.
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Not sure a 1.6 is an Elephant next to a 1.3 But I get what you are saying. It I was comparing the 1.3 to a 4.3, it would be a no-brainer, but I think It's gotta be close as hell here. And of course, the smog thing...
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Assuming that I throw a My-Side 2 on it

Keep in mind that I am looking for it to be smog legal. Mui Importante!
You won't be passing smog, at least legally, with a My-Side. You need the stock carb. A vote for the 1.6 if you want to keep it relatively emissions friendly
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You won't be passing smog, at least legally, with a My-Side. You need the stock carb. A vote for the 1.6 if you want to keep it relatively emissions friendly
Yes, pass smog with stock carb and then throw the My_Side on it after smog is done.

But can anyone get me an answer on the difference between the 2. Let's start with this: how much HP does the 1.6 put out? More or less than 100?
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Stock 1.6 8v is 80hp, 16v is 100hp.
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I think you will see a Huge Difference between the 1.3 and the 1.6 16 valve.

See if you can drive a Tracker or Sidekick around before you decide. Get a 2 door, Manual Transmission model to try though, the auto is nice, but the manual will be like the Samurai manual trans.

I think the EFI will be worth the swap too. I like how reliable the 16 valve is. Basic and Reliable, with no tinkering or dialing it in.
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1.6 16v all the way.low maintenance and emissions friendly. wont have to switch back and forth on it like with the my side stuff.plus u can add some power to the 1.6 when it gets boring.with the other ur done, my 2 pennies
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Well, it looks unanimous. 1.6 16V is the way to go. I'll keep that in mind for the future. I just picked up the Lee Built Stage 2 1.3 8V because the price was right and I think it will be the fastest way for me to get on the road No adapters, no new accessories, exhaust, wiring, etc. Guess we'll see how it turns out.
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But can anyone get me an answer on the difference between the 2. Let's start with this: how much HP does the 1.6 put out? More or less than 100?
This info is readily available if you search

There is some variation in what you'll find on the internet, but this is close

1.3 carb 60 hp @ 6500 rpm 76 ft-lb @ 3500 rpm
1.3 EFI 66 hp @ 6500 rpm 76 ft-lb @ 3500 rpm
1.6 8v - 80 hp @ 5400 rpm 94 ft-lbs. @ 3000 rpm
1.6 16v - 95 hp @ 5600 rpm 98 ft-lbs. @ 4000 rpm
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I just finished a 16 valve swap in my sami, it is without a doubt the best mod you can do to one of these things.
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D Boz, you get urs legal yet?
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This info is readily available if you search

There is some variation in what you'll find on the internet, but this is close

1.3 carb 60 hp @ 6500 rpm 76 ft-lb @ 3500 rpm
1.3 EFI 66 hp @ 6500 rpm 76 ft-lb @ 3500 rpm
1.6 8v - 80 hp @ 5400 rpm 94 ft-lbs. @ 3000 rpm
1.6 16v - 95 hp @ 5600 rpm 98 ft-lbs. @ 4000 rpm
Awesome. I kind of suck at the search sometimes but I DO try (as evidenced by the 10 year old thread that I recently responded to ).

Thanks for getting me this info. Makes my much more comfortable with my decision. I'm pretty sure that I will be in the same range as the 1.6 8V with my motor. Maybe even a little better. Guess we'll see in a few weeks, once its in an running.
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