What clutch to run on a 16v swap? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

hotrodd64 · 03-29-2012, 03:48 PM

Any input on clutches people have used and like and dont like? Im putting a 16v in my sammy stock samurai tranny rebuilt, rebuilt engine. Is a oe replacment samurai clutch enough to hold that power? Or Stage 2, ceramic, ebay clutches, etc?

thanks ken

DemoMike · 03-29-2012, 03:58 PM

Back before TT had there own line of clutches, I was recommended a stnd. Samurai clutch when doing my swap. Today, who knows...

TatorZuk · 03-29-2012, 08:11 PM

Do a little research...when I swapped in my 1.6L there were two options for clutches...

Seems like 2-door VS 4-door??

Anyhow, one is bigger in diameter...7 7/8" versus 8 1/2"

Use the big one.

I'm feeling generous tonight...I might search for a part# for you.

mannysouza · 03-29-2012, 08:13 PM

centerforce

hotrodd64 · 03-29-2012, 09:31 PM

Ya a centerforce would be my first choice but 300 bucks is a little more than I have to spend now, and I'm not running the sidekick tranny so I'm stuck with the samurai flywheel and clutch options, I will probably go with a stage 2 off fleebay, see how it is. I just wondered about ceramic clutches because there's a butt load on eBay, and it seems ceramic would grip better, but then again that could be a bad thing

zuk1988 · 03-29-2012, 09:48 PM

Center force dual friction.My wife drive mine some times and I get on her for slipping the clutch at times

any thing less would not be good.

ShuDuck · 03-29-2012, 11:33 PM

petroworks clutch if you run the 1.3 flywheel. supersmooth and strong, I have used it on 1.6 16v, 1.3, and 1.9 TD

centerforce is

64rcs · 03-30-2012, 06:51 AM

I just put in TT Vulcan clutch. It has a couple snow wheeling trips on it with good results. Headed to Moab next month for a real test.

red90runner · 03-30-2012, 10:54 AM

I have a petroworks clutch I'm looking to sell. Its in great shape, low miles, just upgrading to Toyota drivetrain. pm me if interested.

edit: SOLD

1madzuk · 03-30-2012, 12:18 PM

PERTOWORKS no others compare have it in all 3 of my rigs. If your using the 1.3 trans.

Bobula · 03-31-2012, 04:34 PM

I have the same question. Thanks for the info

mannysouza · 03-31-2012, 04:47 PM

I hope petroworks clutch is better than all of their other crap they sell

I love their engine mounts that look like a kid welded them up, cause drivetrain vibrations and their t case gears we have removed from three samurai's that would lock up when unless you leave out the center detent ball.

I wouldn't recommend them to anyone.

TatorZuk · 03-31-2012, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hotrodd64

I just wondered about ceramic clutches because there's a butt load on eBay, and it seems ceramic would grip better, but then again that could be a bad thing

Sometimes a ceramic clutch can act like an "on-off" switch when they engage...

Find a cheap, stock Sachs on the "net" and run that...

03-29-2012, 03:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
hotrodd64 Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Member # 72167 Location: Northen California Posts: 58	What clutch to run on a 16v swap? Any input on clutches people have used and like and dont like? Im putting a 16v in my sammy stock samurai tranny rebuilt, rebuilt engine. Is a oe replacment samurai clutch enough to hold that power? Or Stage 2, ceramic, ebay clutches, etc? thanks ken

03-29-2012, 08:11 PM	#3 (permalink)
TatorZuk Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Member # 16608 Location: Dakota Territory Posts: 1,336	Do a little research...when I swapped in my 1.6L there were two options for clutches... Seems like 2-door VS 4-door?? Anyhow, one is bigger in diameter...7 7/8" versus 8 1/2" Use the big one. I'm feeling generous tonight...I might search for a part# for you. __________________ '88 Zuk

03-29-2012, 08:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
mannysouza Granite Guru Join Date: Sep 2003 Member # 22726 Location: Gilroy Posts: 933	centerforce __________________ The more things you own, the more they own you!

03-29-2012, 09:48 PM	#6 (permalink)
zuk1988 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Member # 93886 Location: Lake Stevens WA Posts: 298	Center force dual friction.My wife drive mine some times and I get on her for slipping the clutch at timesany thing less would not be good. __________________ 88 Samurai D44,Spider 9",Detroits,33 TSL's

03-29-2012, 11:33 PM	#7 (permalink)
ShuDuck Skandinavisk pirat Join Date: May 2004 Member # 30288 Location: Norway Posts: 997	petroworks clutch if you run the 1.3 flywheel. supersmooth and strong, I have used it on 1.6 16v, 1.3, and 1.9 TD centerforce is __________________ Turbo Diesel zuk build YJ spua 33", build thread Pirate4x4 Scandinavia

03-29-2012, 03:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
DemoMike Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Member # 8284 Posts: 1,377	Back before TT had there own line of clutches, I was recommended a stnd. Samurai clutch when doing my swap. Today, who knows...

03-29-2012, 09:31 PM	#5 (permalink)
hotrodd64 Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Member # 72167 Location: Northen California Posts: 58	Ya a centerforce would be my first choice but 300 bucks is a little more than I have to spend now, and I'm not running the sidekick tranny so I'm stuck with the samurai flywheel and clutch options, I will probably go with a stage 2 off fleebay, see how it is. I just wondered about ceramic clutches because there's a butt load on eBay, and it seems ceramic would grip better, but then again that could be a bad thing

03-30-2012, 06:51 AM	#8 (permalink)
64rcs Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Member # 121943 Posts: 106	I just put in TT Vulcan clutch. It has a couple snow wheeling trips on it with good results. Headed to Moab next month for a real test.

03-30-2012, 10:54 AM	#9 (permalink)
red90runner Gives Zero Join Date: Sep 2004 Member # 35527 Location: Campbell, CA Posts: 1,491	I have a petroworks clutch I'm looking to sell. Its in great shape, low miles, just upgrading to Toyota drivetrain. pm me if interested. edit: SOLD __________________ -Pat Polygoats Offroad Club Last edited by red90runner; 04-04-2012 at 10:02 AM.

03-30-2012, 12:18 PM	#10 (permalink)
1madzuk Wheeler Join Date: May 2006 Member # 72294 Location: Colton,Cali Posts: 265	PERTOWORKS no others compare have it in all 3 of my rigs. If your using the 1.3 trans. __________________ 86 S/T 6.4, 5:13 diffs,yota P/S Spooled & locked 86T/Top 6.5,5:13 Diffs,yota P/S, Spooled & locked 87S/T EXCO,6.5,5:13,Welded,Locked,yoda P/S BLAH,BLAH,BLAH,ETC,ETC. MAD ZUKS-Modified & Aggressively Driven SUZUKI SAMURAIS

03-31-2012, 04:34 PM	#11 (permalink)
Bobula Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Member # 138416 Location: Amador County Posts: 47	I have the same question. Thanks for the info

03-31-2012, 04:47 PM	#12 (permalink)
mannysouza Granite Guru Join Date: Sep 2003 Member # 22726 Location: Gilroy Posts: 933	I hope petroworks clutch is better than all of their other crap they sell I love their engine mounts that look like a kid welded them up, cause drivetrain vibrations and their t case gears we have removed from three samurai's that would lock up when unless you leave out the center detent ball. I wouldn't recommend them to anyone. __________________ The more things you own, the more they own you!

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