The "Toaster" build - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

smewhtguy · 08-19-2012, 05:17 PM

I usually stay with toyota's but when a friend asked me to do a build for him I couldn't pass it up. Plan is 22re/w56/toy case swap with built toy axles. Using TG yota leafs with some of the leafs removed. Full exo and tube front clip and some 38.5s. Needs to be done by sept 14 so there will be nightly progress posts.

How it looked when I started tonight at 5:30.

7:30 when I quit.

Engine trans Tcase driveshafts and axles all for sale.

blowntaco · 08-19-2012, 05:31 PM

Those front shackles are awsome. What wheelbase are you looking at?

smewhtguy · 08-19-2012, 05:37 PM

Stock was at 80" I am hoping to get it out to atleast 100", would be a lot easier if was getting links but that will be part of round 2 for now he just wants to get back to wheeling.

kris97ranger · 08-19-2012, 05:59 PM

sub'd

irab88 · 08-19-2012, 06:08 PM

in...

drewp · 08-19-2012, 06:31 PM

damn whtguy, you sure like deadlines...looking forward to the updates

O'neal · 08-19-2012, 07:11 PM

The all toy drivetrain will be nice compared to the weak zuk drivetrain...The power between the RE and 1.3 is night and day

Bass Man · 08-20-2012, 01:58 PM

Although you could keep a 1.3 at 7k rpm for a long time and if you touch 5k with a 22r more than 4 times in a day, they throw rods. I really have a bad experience with 20r and 22r's. Went though 5 of them in 3 months.

gixxerrr750 · 08-20-2012, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bass Man

Although you could keep a 1.3 at 7k rpm for a long time and if you touch 5k with a 22r more than 4 times in a day, they throw rods. I really have a bad experience with 20r and 22r's. Went though 5 of them in 3 months.

Jay and I must have good luck with the 22's because our see more than 5k all the time when we go out and no thrown rods

Bass Man · 08-20-2012, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by gixxerrr750

Jay and I must have good luck with the 22's because our see more than 5k all the time when we go out and no thrown rods

And that's what I expected when I got my 83 LWB. I've heard nothing but good about them untill I went through 5, then a few other people I know said "oh yeah, I went through a few, too."

My dad has an 86 LWB with a 22r and It's actually held up a lot better than the any of mine. No fair...

JM93LiftedYJ · 08-20-2012, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bass Man

Although you could keep a 1.3 at 7k rpm for a long time and if you touch 5k with a 22r more than 4 times in a day, they throw rods. I really have a bad experience with 20r and 22r's. Went though 5 of them in 3 months.

I snapped my belt on my 1.3 and my tach hit 8.5k two weeks ago.

kris97ranger · 08-20-2012, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by gixxerrr750

Jay and I must have good luck with the 22's because our see more than 5k all the time when we go out and no thrown rods

same. ive been through 3 but all were oil main leaks that went on the highway never blew one on the trail or throw a rod

smewhtguy · 08-20-2012, 05:34 PM

My 22re has 330,xxx miles on it and loves tapping the redline. Lets not turn this into a 22re vs 1.3 debate, it won't end well.
Tonights progress, motor/trans out everything off the firewall and the frames cut. Will most likely swap the yota booster and master also.

New axle cl will be about even with the front edge of the hood.

twoslo4five0 · 08-20-2012, 07:34 PM

I love the little tires

lawnman79 · 08-21-2012, 04:28 AM

looking good

smewhtguy · 08-21-2012, 05:13 PM

So after pondering on it for a while i figured out a way to get the offset right in the frame for the shackles to end up with the 29.5" center spacing needed for the toy housing, this is what I got. This puts the axle 10" forward from stock and should keep the tire out of the firewall.

Tubes are flush on the inside of the frame.

Protruding on the outside, will get a gusset.

Notice the stacked spacers on the inside.

Need to pick up some steel tomorrow and start rebuilding the front frame.

lawnman79 · 08-21-2012, 06:06 PM

the spacers on one side will work?Never would have thought of that looks good so far i cant wait to get it in the woods

smewhtguy · 08-22-2012, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by lawnman79

the spacers on one side will work?Never would have thought of that looks good so far i cant wait to get it in the woods

We will find out, I don't see why it won't work. I flexed the shackles loose and didn't see a problem, will have to clearance the frame for when it goes full stuff.

Stopped and picked up a stick of 2"x4"x.125" box tube and rebuilt the front frame section. Threw the mockup housing in and started the front spring mounts, Murdered an old Tg shackle for the inner mount. Frame will get fish plates and gussets just want to keep this moving along as the new drivetrain should be here saterday.

Firewall clearance looks good.

Close to a 90 degree approach angle.

Damn this section is slow.

KungFooMASTA · 08-22-2012, 07:53 PM

Your builds are always fun to watch!

adamwende · 08-22-2012, 08:26 PM

There hasn't been much here, you're right. So im glad you're doing something about it. Im doing yota springs as well, flipped in the rear for wheel base. Subscribed fo sho.

bam671 · 08-22-2012, 11:56 PM

nice build up can we see more shots of the front shackle? how wide is your sleeve in the frame?

smewhtguy · 08-23-2012, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by KungFooMASTA

Your builds are always fun to watch!

Thanks man.

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamwende

There hasn't been much here, you're right. So im glad you're doing something about it. Im doing yota springs as well, flipped in the rear for wheel base. Subscribed fo sho.

You can't keep a thread in the top of the yota section, I guess I figured all the sections were like that, you guys that have done something like this feel free to give pionters.

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Originally Posted by bam671

nice build up can we see more shots of the front shackle? how wide is your sleeve in the frame?

Sleeve is 3.750" long 1.5" .188 wall dom. Will shoot some other shots of it once its gusseted.

smewhtguy · 08-23-2012, 05:03 PM

Finished the shackle mounts off.

Over head shot.

Finished the spring hangers.

Cut a 3" chunk of 4x4 .250 wall box tube in half and braced the inside corners of the new frame.

With no weight on the front, its still looking like its gonna be too tall. Will most likely pull 2 leafs out of each pack to drop it down some.

Looks like about 75% of the tire will be outside the body.

lawnman79 · 08-23-2012, 06:21 PM

gussets look good and shackle hangers look sweat it almost needs a set of bush wackers lol i will call you tomrrow got busy.trying to get off tomrrow earily so i can get the toyota from ernie

bam671 · 08-23-2012, 06:53 PM

awesome job on those shackle hangers

are the spacers in between the ones from the shackle set?or custom?

08-19-2012, 05:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
smewhtguy White Trash Fab Join Date: Oct 2007 Member # 100827 Location: stafford Va Posts: 6,397	The "Toaster" build I usually stay with toyota's but when a friend asked me to do a build for him I couldn't pass it up. Plan is 22re/w56/toy case swap with built toy axles. Using TG yota leafs with some of the leafs removed. Full exo and tube front clip and some 38.5s. Needs to be done by sept 14 so there will be nightly progress posts. How it looked when I started tonight at 5:30. 7:30 when I quit. Engine trans Tcase driveshafts and axles all for sale. __________________ "If you are gonna live life on the edge you better have good balance" 06 Tundra DC The "Trifecta" 3 seat yota buggy http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1027210 http://www.AddictedOffroad.com/ www.ruffstuffspecialties.com http://f-o-a.com

08-19-2012, 05:31 PM	#2 (permalink)
blowntaco Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Member # 75708 Location: Freeland,Pa. Posts: 249	Those front shackles are awsome. What wheelbase are you looking at? __________________ When It Absolutly Positively Must Be Destroyed Overnight. U.S. MARINES

08-19-2012, 05:37 PM	#3 (permalink)
smewhtguy White Trash Fab Join Date: Oct 2007 Member # 100827 Location: stafford Va Posts: 6,397	Stock was at 80" I am hoping to get it out to atleast 100", would be a lot easier if was getting links but that will be part of round 2 for now he just wants to get back to wheeling. __________________ "If you are gonna live life on the edge you better have good balance" 06 Tundra DC The "Trifecta" 3 seat yota buggy http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1027210 http://www.AddictedOffroad.com/ www.ruffstuffspecialties.com http://f-o-a.com

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O'neal Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Member # 27862 Location: Evanston WY Posts: 168	The all toy drivetrain will be nice compared to the weak zuk drivetrain...The power between the RE and 1.3 is night and day __________________ 86 samurai-tubebed,1link rear,22RE,l52 trans/w56,stock case 118"WB,35"mtr's

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08-20-2012, 01:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
Bass Man Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Member # 50557 Location: Medford, Oregon Posts: 897	Although you could keep a 1.3 at 7k rpm for a long time and if you touch 5k with a 22r more than 4 times in a day, they throw rods. I really have a bad experience with 20r and 22r's. Went though 5 of them in 3 months. __________________ Sounds like bay, not ass.

08-20-2012, 05:34 PM	#13 (permalink)
smewhtguy White Trash Fab Join Date: Oct 2007 Member # 100827 Location: stafford Va Posts: 6,397	My 22re has 330,xxx miles on it and loves tapping the redline. Lets not turn this into a 22re vs 1.3 debate, it won't end well. Tonights progress, motor/trans out everything off the firewall and the frames cut. Will most likely swap the yota booster and master also. New axle cl will be about even with the front edge of the hood. __________________ "If you are gonna live life on the edge you better have good balance" 06 Tundra DC The "Trifecta" 3 seat yota buggy http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1027210 http://www.AddictedOffroad.com/ www.ruffstuffspecialties.com http://f-o-a.com

08-20-2012, 07:34 PM	#14 (permalink)
twoslo4five0 Rock God Join Date: Mar 2007 Member # 87916 Location: a few miles from hopesmell va. Where you loose cell phone servise.. Posts: 2,317	I love the little tires __________________ 88 3/4 ton blazer- total junk 77 Rockwell truggy think- even more junk

08-21-2012, 04:28 AM	#15 (permalink)
lawnman79 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Member # 226440 Posts: 37	toaster looking good

08-21-2012, 05:13 PM	#16 (permalink)
smewhtguy White Trash Fab Join Date: Oct 2007 Member # 100827 Location: stafford Va Posts: 6,397	So after pondering on it for a while i figured out a way to get the offset right in the frame for the shackles to end up with the 29.5" center spacing needed for the toy housing, this is what I got. This puts the axle 10" forward from stock and should keep the tire out of the firewall. Tubes are flush on the inside of the frame. Protruding on the outside, will get a gusset. Notice the stacked spacers on the inside. Need to pick up some steel tomorrow and start rebuilding the front frame. __________________ "If you are gonna live life on the edge you better have good balance" 06 Tundra DC The "Trifecta" 3 seat yota buggy http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1027210 http://www.AddictedOffroad.com/ www.ruffstuffspecialties.com http://f-o-a.com Last edited by smewhtguy; 08-31-2012 at 07:45 PM.

08-21-2012, 06:06 PM	#17 (permalink)
lawnman79 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Member # 226440 Posts: 37	jason the spacers on one side will work?Never would have thought of that looks good so far i cant wait to get it in the woods

08-22-2012, 07:53 PM	#19 (permalink)
KungFooMASTA Wheeler Join Date: Jul 2009 Member # 139345 Location: Kingman, KS Posts: 484	Your builds are always fun to watch! __________________ 95 Land Rover Disco, 85 SJ410 Tin Top, 81 Isuzu Pup Diesel 94 Blazer 6.5TD, 69 Nissan Patrol

08-22-2012, 08:26 PM	#20 (permalink)
adamwende Wheeler Join Date: Jun 2011 Member # 193461 Location: It's hot... AZ Posts: 208	There hasn't been much here, you're right. So im glad you're doing something about it. Im doing yota springs as well, flipped in the rear for wheel base. Subscribed fo sho.

08-22-2012, 11:56 PM	#21 (permalink)
bam671 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Member # 151636 Location: GUAM Posts: 182	nice build up can we see more shots of the front shackle? how wide is your sleeve in the frame?

08-23-2012, 05:03 PM	#23 (permalink)
smewhtguy White Trash Fab Join Date: Oct 2007 Member # 100827 Location: stafford Va Posts: 6,397	Finished the shackle mounts off. Over head shot. Finished the spring hangers. Cut a 3" chunk of 4x4 .250 wall box tube in half and braced the inside corners of the new frame. With no weight on the front, its still looking like its gonna be too tall. Will most likely pull 2 leafs out of each pack to drop it down some. Looks like about 75% of the tire will be outside the body. __________________ "If you are gonna live life on the edge you better have good balance" 06 Tundra DC The "Trifecta" 3 seat yota buggy http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1027210 http://www.AddictedOffroad.com/ www.ruffstuffspecialties.com http://f-o-a.com

08-23-2012, 06:21 PM	#24 (permalink)
lawnman79 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Member # 226440 Posts: 37	jason gussets look good and shackle hangers look sweat it almost needs a set of bush wackers lol i will call you tomrrow got busy.trying to get off tomrrow earily so i can get the toyota from ernie

08-23-2012, 06:53 PM	#25 (permalink)
bam671 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Member # 151636 Location: GUAM Posts: 182	awesome job on those shackle hangers are the spacers in between the ones from the shackle set?or custom?

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