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Old 12-27-2012, 12:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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what winch do ya'll think would be the best for a suzuki samurai?
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Old 12-27-2012, 12:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm running an 8'000 lb warn. Fixing to upgrade to a warn 8274. Mostly for the line speed. I wouldn't go any smaller than 8K though. Just my 2 cents.
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:35 PM   #4 (permalink)
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8000# is a good choice...

I run an old T-max short drum EW 6500

Good line speed...6500# has done everything I've thrown at it...
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Old 12-27-2012, 07:15 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I ran a Smittybuilt XRC8 on my Samurai with an Exide gel cell battery, and will be using the same setup on my Tracker buggy. That winch earned its keep and then some, no complaints at all about it. Biggest issue in general with a winch on a Sammy is the pathetic alternator, my setup would kill the motor on hard pulls if they were more than 15-20 feet and it would take awhile for the battery to recover.
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Old 12-27-2012, 08:55 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Warn 8k for me as well. Just for self-recovery you could run less, but it seems that 9 times out of ten a winch is used, its to recover someone else rig (or move a tree, straighten a frame, etc )


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Old 12-28-2012, 05:31 AM   #7 (permalink)
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has anyone used a mile marker winches? how good are they?
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Old 12-28-2012, 08:22 AM   #8 (permalink)
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has anyone used a mile marker winches? how good are they?
I run a Warm M8000 on the buggy. I also have a mile marker 8k thats now attached to a receiver for the trailer or back of my truck for doing things around house. I had nothing but problems with the MM. I bought it when they first came out 7ish years ago. I wouldn't buy one.

If it were me, I would only buy a Warn. Hands down, Warn has a reputation thats hard to beat. The smittybuilt XRC8 comes in at 300.00 and it hard to pass up, but I'll always go for a Warn. You can catch them all over ebay for 550.00 free shipping (M8000). I'm also from the school of buy it once and be done. Like I said, I went the cheap route with the MM and the first 3 times I went to use it, it would't work.

Nothing kills me more than someone on the trail using a POS cheap knock off winch that takes forever and a day to winch 5 feet. just my 2cents

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Old 12-28-2012, 08:24 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Mile marker have been around since the dawn of time. They are still pretty good. Smitty builts are best bang for the buck however. I (due to money issues) run a 6000lb harbor freight unit. I did however upgrade to some winch rope which is one of the best things I have ever done. Even for a 6K unit, It makes quick work of anything I hve needed it for when winching myself, and has recovered around 4 big heavy ass heeps now. And all of those were dead pulls up some rough terrain. It never failed. (public service notice) Always use proper winching techniques!!!!!

Just buy the biggest you can afford. Having one is better than not, even if it is slow. You can always snatchblock to gain some more power if you do end up with a lower rated one. Just make sure to keep it clean, test it often and wire it in correctly.

my 6k pulling a heep back onto all 4's. Pulling uphill and against a ledge.

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Nothing kills me more than someone on the trail using a POS cheap knock off winch that takes forever and a day to winch 5 feet. just my 2cents
hey now.... my cheap knock off isn't that slow

And I rather them have a slow winch then none at all! I have saved many unprepared folks with my little knock off thank you very much.
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Catzuk is correct. Any winch is better than no winch at all. The above post is from my personal experience. There are alot of knock off winches out there today in the 3-400.00range. Smittybuilt would be my 1st choice because of their reputation, and the XRC8 is they absolute best bang for the buck. The M8000 is a great winch that offers good line speed loaded or unloaded, unbeatable reputation, and can be had for 550.00. If 300.00 is all you have in your budget for a winch, hands down, the Smittybuilt is the one I would buy over a MM. MM has been around forever, but they were into the hydraulics rather than the electrics as much. Cheap knock offs will get the job done in a pinch, but it goes back to the old saying, you get what you pay for.

I would rather have a knock off than nothing. I tried to save money and paid 400ish for my 8k MM. The first 3 times I went to use it, it broke leaving me at the mercy of my friends laughing at me for buying a cheap piece of crap. Now that i fixed it, it works like its suppose to. Line speed on the MM sucks !! Line speed isn't everything, but imagine you spool off 80' to reach an anchor point, winch 5' to get unstuck, and spool the rest of the line in and taking what seems like forever to do so.

Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. They are in fact "opinions" (including mine)

Bottom line, Buy an XRC8 and be done.
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Old 12-28-2012, 10:43 AM   #12 (permalink)
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About 12 years ago I got a Ramsey Rep 8000 from National tire and wheel for $400. Kind of slow but always works good and has never let me down. If this one ever die I would like to look into a newer model of Ramsey.
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On our buggy we put a harbor freight 5k ATV winch on it and has saved or asses several times. Winched my brothers samurai with 31s up the water falls in Penrose and the winch was dragging my buggy with all for tires locked up lol. I need to put synthetic rope on it still but other than that its been great. I would have bought the 6k winch but it wasn't out yet when they changed to the badlands branding.
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Old 12-29-2012, 07:56 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Catzuk is correct. Any winch is better than no winch at all. The above post is from my personal experience. There are alot of knock off winches out there today in the 3-400.00range. Smittybuilt would be my 1st choice because of their reputation, and the XRC8 is they absolute best bang for the buck. The M8000 is a great winch that offers good line speed loaded or unloaded, unbeatable reputation, and can be had for 550.00. If 300.00 is all you have in your budget for a winch, hands down, the Smittybuilt is the one I would buy over a MM. MM has been around forever, but they were into the hydraulics rather than the electrics as much. Cheap knock offs will get the job done in a pinch, but it goes back to the old saying, you get what you pay for.

I would rather have a knock off than nothing. I tried to save money and paid 400ish for my 8k MM. The first 3 times I went to use it, it broke leaving me at the mercy of my friends laughing at me for buying a cheap piece of crap. Now that i fixed it, it works like its suppose to. Line speed on the MM sucks !! Line speed isn't everything, but imagine you spool off 80' to reach an anchor point, winch 5' to get unstuck, and spool the rest of the line in and taking what seems like forever to do so.

Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. AND THEY ALL STINK!!! (including mine)

Bottom line, Buy an XRC8 and be done.
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On our buggy we put a harbor freight 5k ATV winch on it and has saved or asses several times. Winched my brothers samurai with 31s up the water falls in Penrose and the winch was dragging my buggy with all for tires locked up lol. I need to put synthetic rope on it still but other than that its been great. I would have bought the 6k winch but it wasn't out yet when they changed to the badlands branding.
I am kind of on board with this thought.

I know for myself I am trying to keep my samurai light. I don't get the idea of taking a 2200lb vehicle and making it 3500 pounds.

I am probably already up to 2800lbs or so with bumpers and other added steel.

Adding the average 8k pound winch is 75 to 100 pounds more on the nose.

I have been leaning towards the same winch listed above or maybe their 6000lb winch converted to synthetic line to keep the weight down.
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like I mentioned, a 6000lb with rope from custom splice is what I've got. very light and reliable. I run stock 16v alternator and a yellow top optima. just run large wire with good ends. I only have 50 feet of rope since its a short drum. but I keep an extension and tow straps for longer pulls.

just have to size it for what u do. if you're burying in deep mud. then a larger winch is mandatory.
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Old 12-30-2012, 07:21 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I am running a smittybuilt 8000 works great but have an older 8274 that works just a little big for a samurai.. What is a 8274 worth in working condition..??? I wouldn't think 550 would a good price is that a rebuilt price or working condition???

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Old 12-30-2012, 09:14 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I've run a Warn 9.5TI since they first came out with them. I've broke 2 winch ropes and one winch cable with no problems from the winch. That being said, I did fork out over $900 for it when it was new. It was a little fast, but you get used to it. I was planning on using it on my recent rebuild of my zuke but I couldn't fit it between the two front tubes. I recently bought the Warn VR8000 series winch for a little under $600 and it came with Warn's Spydura synthethic rope. I haven't got to use this winch yet but its narrower and shorter than the M series, the XD series, and the Zeon series winches. I bought a Mile Marker winch brand new and it would barely pull my wife's Jeep out of a hole. Ever since then I'll save my money and purchase Warn. My O2
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