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Old 03-09-2003, 11:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Welder selection???

Ok here's the question ...
It seems like most mods on a zuki involve a welder making shackles bumpers cages ...you catch my drift..so my question here concerns welders. I am going to get a 110 and I want some feedback on 110 migs ... I will get a big bottle and wont be using the flux core so I am down to the lincoln 135 t or the millermatic 135 they are both comparable within 50.00 in cost. Who has had good experiences or bad experiences with them if you have had warranty problems with the companies when you needed to get stuff repaired let me know..thanks




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I used to use the miller135 at work its a nice little machine, never had problems so there wasnt any warranty issues. I use a century 30-170 amp 230 volt for home use SPECS(welding range to weld thin 24 gauge sheet metal up to 5/16" thick steel, Runs 5356 aluminum and stainless with optional accessories
Rated 30% duty cycle at 130 amps for extended welding time.
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Old 03-09-2003, 01:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Miller was great when I've had problems. A lot of people like Lincoln too. I've never owned one myself. The Millermatic 135 has inifite voltage control which is nice. The Lincoln SP 135 T doesn't but the SP-135 Plus does.
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I've welded with both the Miller & Lincoln, but prefer the Hobart. It is owned by Miller, has a better warranty, costs less, and the gun is more comfortable to me. cheapest I've found it is www.cyberweld.com no tax & free shipping, even on bottles, filled or empty! They carry the Miller too, but really think the Hobart is a better deal & nicer welds... thats the one my buddy owns & I'm buying the 220V Hobart 175 Handler as soon as my garage gets re-wired.
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my linkoln 135 is a pain in the ass. Great for little stuff. But for lotsa welding it sucks. Not enough duty cycle - flipping the breaker, & I don't wanna make three passes. forget the 110. Go up to the 220. You'll be glad you did. If you insist on a 110 - I'll sell you mine so I can get a 220 v Miller like Shrock's.
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Hobart is owned by Miller, not Lincoln. I have a Miller 135 and it has been great, and when it did poop its pants Miller fixed it for free. I would agree though with Rockrawler go for a 220 if you can, its really worth the extra cash. My neighbor has a Hobart 220 and it works really well and the price is great.
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my garage doesnt have a 220 outlet and my landlord(mother in law) is a bitch so a 110 is all i can get away with as long as she is doesnt show up when I am welding
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Make an 8 gauge extension cord that plugs into 110 outlets which pull from opposite sides of the box (are on different breakers). One female 220 plug for the welder, 20-30 feet of cord... and two male 110 outlet plugs. Boom. Instant 220V wiring.



I just pulled a 70 foot 6-gauge cable from the garage. up the wall into my attic, and across the house down into the box. Took about half a day or so, and wasn't too hard. The outlet even has a pimp brushed aluminum faceplate in the garage. And with a 50 AMP breaker and battery-cable-sized wiring, I should be able to run the welder and compressor at full blast quite comfortably.

BTW, it was for the future 220V Hobart 175 (Same as Miller, but a couple components are plastic, and it lops ~$100 off the price). For now, it only powers this:


This compressor gets it.
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OK welders...again. Heres my question:

Who makes the Craftsman? Is it Century? I saw one last night for $499...was a full MIG, and infinate speed and heat range.

It looked good, and if the weight has anything to do with it, It has Copper windings, not Aluminum. weighs almost 80#!

just wondering, but the same Miller and Lincoln is another $200 localy. Infact Hobart is $100 more!

anyone with knowledge of this thing?
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Got a link or a model # on it shouldnt be too hard to find on the web


And TNT I really hope your kidding with fire hazard you just posted.
but then again if you want to Play the jeffersons and move on up let it burn LOL
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i just bought a hobart handler 175 at tractor supply company . they were having a sale ... the 175 with cart is ...$588 . sale might have run out by now ,but if you have a t.s.c . in your area its worth a price check.

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110 lincoln

hey i live on a farm in indiana and while i dont use the red box every day it is the only welder we have here on the farm ......

we repair farm equipment wirh mine it gets stored in a leantoo
soit been exsposed to the elements for going on 3 years now
i dont know if the waranty was any good or not ....i never needed it so take it from there kid .....

btw every weld thats on my sammy has been done with the little red box...................

i have no problem with mine i doubt you have a problem with yours....................................
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Got a link or a model # on it shouldnt be too hard to find on the web

Thats the problem, I couldnt easily find a model number on it.

I was just wondering about them if someone had used them befor.....it would be a 'sligtly' easier way to purchase...the dreaded credit card....but I would have it now, ready to use when I needed, and to practice and hone my skills.
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Hey SCWA, did you do your cage & everything else on your Zuk with a 110V unit?
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Thats the problem, I couldnt easily find a model number on it.
Thats always the problem, and why I like to stick to good stuff when it comes to welding, get a 200amp miller or lincoln and its not a problem to service. Run an extension cable to your stove plug, will do you for most applications.
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I have the hobart handler 135 and love it. It'll burn 3/16" well. 1/4 if you V out the joint a little. is a great little 110 machine and you can find it for $50-100 cheaper than the miller 110.

As far as gettign a big gas bottle. I've got an 80cuft bottle (stands about 3.5' tall) I weld a couple times a month maybe and it has lasted me quite a while. and isn't so blasted heavy to move when it needs refilled. Only cost $18 to get filled with C-25.

I bought mine online. Much cheaper than I could find anywhere locally.
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Thats always the problem, and why I like to stick to good stuff when it comes to welding, get a 200amp miller or lincoln and its not a problem to service. Run an extension cable to your stove plug, will do you for most applications.
Electrical is NOT the problem, 220V is easy to wire up. CASH is the big problem here. Its easy to tell someone to get a 200 amp welder, until you footing the bill. I have very limited funds to do this with, comprimises have to be made. If I buy a 200amp Miller or lincoln as sugested, i can forget about any mods for the rest of the year, minimum, and trips are out.

not trying to sound like I'm ragging on ya, but in everything MOST people do Money is the big consideration if not the DECIDING factor.

OK, 'nuff bitchen...lets see some tech....
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Howzit guys,

Anybody got any experience or input on the "HTP" brand; www.usaweld.com. I just received their cat. & they seem to offer quality stuff, their warranty seems to be good as well(3 yrs.) Any comments/ feedback on their stuff is greatly appreciated.
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Electrical is NOT the problem, 220V is easy to wire up. CASH is the big problem here. Its easy to tell someone to get a 200 amp welder, until you footing the bill.
Obviously you missed what i quoted, im talkin about the "I couldnt find a model number".
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hey i live on a farm..................i have no problem with mine i doubt you have a problem with yours....................................

Are you telling me you think I'm really happy w/ >300$ welder that doesn't come close to doing what I want it to? The duty cycle is pisspoor. I spend more time waiting for it to become usable again than welding. It really sucks because it starts to weld horrible waaaaay before it needs a duty cycle rest. Granted I'm not welding on EllieMae's combine at the lean-to.

I bought it because I thought it would be enough for me as an occasional its here when I need it. Since I have it- I have found I need it more - It opens the doors to what you can do to your rig instead of buying catalog crap. Needing it more- I can say that 110 don't cut it.

I wish I wouldv'e spent just a little more & did it right the first time.
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well i bought a new lincoln 135 with the big bottle and a couple extra rolls of 10# wire 35 guage, extra tips a cool big lensed helmet for 630.00 today.i made a cart and its ready to go thanks for all of the posts
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Obviously you missed what i quoted, im talkin about the "I couldnt find a model number".
Sorry for the rant, I just read it differently than what you may have intended.

It was a bad day.......sorrry to take it out on you guys here
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The 135's are 110V, and the 175 & up are 220V.
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I run a lincoln 110 with flux core wire.. It has been great. No special care needed or given. I can get the parts at the local home centers. I have only hit the duty cycle once, and never again, and I have welded all kinds of shit with it.

Why don't I MIG it? It will not weld the thicker metals that we use on our rigs. a higher amperage is needed with MIG in my opinion. I'd say a 135 amp is a great choice for a garage unit MIG.

Myself, I hope to locate a nice used Miller TIG for a fair price. I'm in no rush...

I have a few friends that have 10+ year old large Millers. No issues at all. I think after about 10 years one of them needed a new gun. They see use from every day to every month. I'd say that is a damn good investment.

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