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Old 03-26-2003, 09:46 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Another Steering Q--Battleship pitman arms?

So here is my dilemna, I have a battleship to mount to my sam frame (IH Scout Saginaw PS box) (thanks Rotozuk!)
but I've come to realize with my coil suspension the forward facing arm won't work because the box has to mount precisely where the coils mount to work properly.

So my question is does anyone manufacture a pitman arm or know of a junkyard pitman arm to reverse the orientation of the pitman arm? If not what other box options are there? Please note it has to be mounted on the outside of the frame with the top wrapping around the frame rail for my application. BTW, it'll be steering high steered d44s attached to 37s.
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i don't think it'll be a simple as a reversing the arm cuz the truck will steer opposite. you'd have to run rear facing arms on the knuckles to with the drag link behind the diff.

but i may not understand excactly what your asking i'm still half asleep...
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you could always run a toy ifs box what a grand idea i wish i would have tohugh of that



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Pretty much all Saginaw boxes use the same sector shaft design, so a pitman off anything in the junkyard should work for you. For that matter, just flip the one you have... (see below)

But as stated, it is a reverse rotation box, so having the pitman arm point backward will have you steering backward. You may want to look into a version of the box that has a rear facing pitman arm. Just look around in the junk yards, you should find something that mounts to the outside of the frame with a rear arm. Probably look at trucks as most of the passenger cars mount to the inside of the frame. Usually not a good canidate for the Samurai.

I do like my Saginaw, but you do need to figure out which box style will work best for your project.

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Dammmnit! I forgot about the reverse rotation nonsense...

Hey Moto -- SMARTASS I did think of that, but I want a saginaw box to go along with my GM pump and lines! Besides I'm allergic to toyotas...


If anybody else has any brain waves, I'd appreciate the input. I vaguely recall Ford running a similar box, but my memory is pretty hazzy!
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Dammmnit! I forgot about the reverse rotation nonsense...

Hey Moto -- SMARTASS I did think of that, but I want a saginaw box to go along with my GM pump and lines! Besides I'm allergic to toyotas...


If anybody else has any brain waves, I'd appreciate the input. I vaguely recall Ford running a similar box, but my memory is pretty hazzy!

have patience with me if this link doesn't work, or I've read this all wrong but skimming over this painfully long, detailed-ish site might help? look at the pictures, the saginaw box has it's arm pointing backwards. Sorry, can't remember- do you *have* to use a box that mounts on the outside of the frame?

Just ignore this if I've bollixed it all up.

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AWE CRAP I did fawk up and just read the part where you clearly state "has to mount on the outside of the frame"
sorry I'm going back to work now :doofus:

http://cjford.stormloader.com/Jeep/jeepsteer1.htm

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you could always run a toy ifs box what a grand idea i wish i would have tohugh of that






or you could go wander around the junk yard and find one that is a sagie box that mounts out side the frame with the pitman arm facing backwards
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ok maybe *this* might help
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'nother angle.

found these at Alaska dude's site, http://www.alaskaoffroad.com/crossover_steering.htm

you might be able to find what box he used if you contact him?
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