Questions on fab of rocker guards - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

gadzook · 04-04-2003, 05:21 PM

I was thinking about welding up a set of rocker guards for my zuk and I have some questions on how I shoud go about it. I was looking all over the internet for ideas and yes I did the search. I was wondering how rocky road outfitters can make their rocker guards completely bolt on. I dont really want to weld anything to my frame. I was wondering if any of you have pics of your rocker guard set ups for some more ideas. Thanks

Pappa Smurf · 04-04-2003, 06:08 PM

which rocker gaurds

schuss · 04-04-2003, 06:09 PM

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Originally posted by gadzook
I was thinking about welding up a set of rocker guards for my zuk and I have some questions on how I shoud go about it. I was looking all over the internet for ideas and yes I did the search. I was wondering how rocky road outfitters can make their rocker guards completely bolt on. I dont really want to weld anything to my frame. I was wondering if any of you have pics of your rocker guard set ups for some more ideas. Thanks

its not hard, on the body mount wings there's ample space to drill and bolt. Schrock's are the same way. I'd go with his if I were you, amazing quality, they fit great and look great. They mount through the body and those mounting wings.

AZRocks · 04-04-2003, 08:33 PM

What's wrong with welding them on????????????

Goof · 04-04-2003, 08:52 PM

Some places it is illegal to weld to your frame. Not a big deal...unless you get caught

The ones that use the mounting wings sound good. The key is to remember that they don't need to transfer all the weight to the frame, just some. The rest can get spread to the rocker panel (the key being spread over the WHOLE rocker) and you won't dent anything.

samiguy · 04-05-2003, 05:34 AM

its illegal to speed and tear the tag off your mattress too, so whats your point?

gadzook · 04-06-2003, 11:19 AM

I dont really know where the "Body Mount Wings" are on my zuk. I know that I am an idiot newbie but coud you point me in the genereal direction.

Pappa Smurf · 04-06-2003, 11:46 AM

look inunder the driver side and 2 c channel looking thing is sticking out with body mounts on them and that were u mount the

zukzilla4x4 · 04-06-2003, 04:12 PM

hell my frame has been welded on so much now you cant tell what hasnt been just weld them on and be done with it

rotozuk · 04-07-2003, 01:05 PM

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Originally posted by zukzilla4x4
hell my frame has been welded on so much now you cant tell what hasnt been just weld them on and be done with it

You can always weld on a couple of bolts to make it look bolted on.

Shit, what state wont let you weld to your frame? I hope mine isn't one of them!!

-Wayne

SilverZuk · 04-07-2003, 01:10 PM

I welded mine to the frame.

I first welded a piece of 1/4 inch plate to the frame and then welded black pipe to the plate.

Black pipe is hard and brittle, my thoughts were I would rather have the pipe break off on a hard hit, than stay attached to frame and twist the rails. More than likely it will break at the weld.

I haven't had any problems with them. When I do tear them off, I will probably just use angle iron and bolt it to the body.

gadzook · 04-07-2003, 05:00 PM

Thanks for all the suggestions. I was thinking of drilling on my frame. Im not sure if this is crazy. I was planning on drilling through the front body mount wing and on the rear through the the square bracket that supports the stationary end of the rear spring. Tell me now if this is crazy and will hurt the structural integrity of my rig. I was planning on drilling two holes in each. Any input would be great. Thanks

Dyevzuk · 06-11-2005, 04:21 PM

My idea was to put 3/16" steel 90 angle 3x3 inches directly on the rocker.

But I'm working on figuring how and where to bolt it..

any suggestions?

Non Urban · 06-12-2005, 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dyevzuk

My idea was to put 3/16" steel 90 angle 3x3 inches directly on the rocker.

But I'm working on figuring how and where to bolt it..

any suggestions?

I originally did that with 4x4, 1/4 inch diamond plate and it worked very well spreading the weight along the the body from wheel well to wheel well for a couple of years until the day I dropped down HARD right behind the front wheel. It bent the bottom of my tub up about 1-2 inches leading back and tapering off about the middle of my door. I had to beat the sh!t out of my door jam to fit my door back on. Needless to say I have since ran 2 inch hitch tube along the body mounts to the frame.

zukman27 · 06-12-2005, 11:51 PM

I welded 4x4 angle to my rockers I have jacked the whole side up quite a few times with the high lift jack it holds fine. Also covers up smashed rockers great

redzook · 06-13-2005, 12:10 AM

one of the best mods i done to my new zuk was to cut the rockers off
and then weld some sliders up higher

i have about an extra 4-5 inches more clearance now

Dyevzuk · 06-13-2005, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redzook

one of the best mods i done to my new zuk was to cut the rockers off
and then weld some sliders up higher

i have about an extra 4-5 inches more clearance now

This is what I'll do!
While I was taking the mesures for cuting the angle, I found HOLE in my rockers and floor. Baby need cares and new armor

budgetsami · 06-13-2005, 02:45 PM

redzook--or anybody with his idea have any pics---sounds like a good idea--

I assume that you cut the rockers to the botton on the floor, then simply put some 4x4 angle on---am even close??

Dyevzuk · 06-13-2005, 03:27 PM

Someone show me is idea.
He tooks 2x4 tubing 3/16 thick to replace his rocker. He welded them flush with the floor on the 4 inches side.

Non Urban · 06-13-2005, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zukman27

I welded 4x4 angle to my rockers I have jacked the whole side up quite a few times with the high lift jack it holds fine. Also covers up smashed rockers great

Yeah it worked great for me too. Just wait until you slip off a rock and land hard on them. Like me....LOL Jacking it up and slamming down on a rock are worlds apart.

Bill4rest · 06-13-2005, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Non Urban

Yeah it worked great for me too. Just wait until you slip off a rock and land hard on them. Like me....LOL Jacking it up and slamming down on a rock are worlds apart.

Kenny are those attached to the frame

Non Urban · 06-13-2005, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill4rest

Kenny are those attached to the frame

They are now Bill.

Philthy · 06-14-2005, 09:55 AM

This way is not as strong but the clearance you get is great. After a few years of beating on the truck, the rockers are pretty foul, but so is the rest of the truck. If I had a to do over I would fully weld the angle to the sheetmetal instead of just stitching it.

http://www.abusivemotorsports.com/st...ection=2&id=16

poi-dog · 06-14-2005, 10:50 AM

Here is some awesome info/thread on the the zuwharrie.com forum on making some sturdy & good looking rockers w/ boxed material. They fill up the void after cutting out the damaged/rusty lower rocker panels.(http://bbs.zuwharrie.com/content/top...058d48392c7eaa)

But for some reason, the pics don't pull up for me any more? Perhaps, can ask them to e-mail them to you or repost them.

Dyevzuk · 06-14-2005, 03:31 PM

I think 3/16 is way enough!
1/4 is overkill and HEAVY

I'll go with 3/16 thick and 3x3

04-04-2003, 05:21 PM	#1 (permalink)
gadzook Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Member # 16702 Location: Twain Harte, Ca Posts: 68	Questions on fab of rocker guards I was thinking about welding up a set of rocker guards for my zuk and I have some questions on how I shoud go about it. I was looking all over the internet for ideas and yes I did the search. I was wondering how rocky road outfitters can make their rocker guards completely bolt on. I dont really want to weld anything to my frame. I was wondering if any of you have pics of your rocker guard set ups for some more ideas. Thanks __________________ I understand the whole jeep thing... Thats why I bought a Samurai

04-04-2003, 06:08 PM	#2 (permalink)
Pappa Smurf Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Member # 12401 Location: Buckeye AZ Posts: 1,541	which rocker gaurds __________________ Toyota axle parts www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=8789642#post8789642

04-06-2003, 11:19 AM	#7 (permalink)
gadzook Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Member # 16702 Location: Twain Harte, Ca Posts: 68	I dont really know where the "Body Mount Wings" are on my zuk. I know that I am an idiot newbie but coud you point me in the genereal direction. __________________ I understand the whole jeep thing... Thats why I bought a Samurai

04-06-2003, 11:46 AM	#8 (permalink)
Pappa Smurf Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Member # 12401 Location: Buckeye AZ Posts: 1,541	look inunder the driver side and 2 c channel looking thing is sticking out with body mounts on them and that were u mount the __________________ Toyota axle parts www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?p=8789642#post8789642

04-07-2003, 01:10 PM	#11 (permalink)
SilverZuk Hillbilly Houndsman Join Date: Aug 2002 Member # 13420 Location: Kenna, West Virginia Posts: 6,824	I welded mine to the frame. I first welded a piece of 1/4 inch plate to the frame and then welded black pipe to the plate. Black pipe is hard and brittle, my thoughts were I would rather have the pipe break off on a hard hit, than stay attached to frame and twist the rails. More than likely it will break at the weld. I haven't had any problems with them. When I do tear them off, I will probably just use angle iron and bolt it to the body. __________________ The penalty for punching someone in the mouth is way too high in our society. www.MountaineerOffroad.com

04-04-2003, 08:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
AZRocks Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Member # 14547 Location: Tucson, Arizona Posts: 498	What's wrong with welding them on????????????

04-04-2003, 08:52 PM	#5 (permalink)
Goof Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11626 Location: Canada, BC Posts: 442	Some places it is illegal to weld to your frame. Not a big deal...unless you get caught The ones that use the mounting wings sound good. The key is to remember that they don't need to transfer all the weight to the frame, just some. The rest can get spread to the rocker panel (the key being spread over the WHOLE rocker) and you won't dent anything.

04-05-2003, 05:34 AM	#6 (permalink)
samiguy Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Member # 7742 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 817	its illegal to speed and tear the tag off your mattress too, so whats your point?

04-06-2003, 04:12 PM	#9 (permalink)
zukzilla4x4 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Member # 16978 Location: yukon oklahoma Posts: 438	hell my frame has been welded on so much now you cant tell what hasnt been just weld them on and be done with it

04-07-2003, 05:00 PM	#12 (permalink)
gadzook Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Member # 16702 Location: Twain Harte, Ca Posts: 68	Thanks for all the suggestions. I was thinking of drilling on my frame. Im not sure if this is crazy. I was planning on drilling through the front body mount wing and on the rear through the the square bracket that supports the stationary end of the rear spring. Tell me now if this is crazy and will hurt the structural integrity of my rig. I was planning on drilling two holes in each. Any input would be great. Thanks __________________ I understand the whole jeep thing... Thats why I bought a Samurai

06-11-2005, 04:21 PM	#13 (permalink)
Dyevzuk Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Member # 36515 Location: Montreal, Qc, Canada Posts: 14	My idea was to put 3/16" steel 90 angle 3x3 inches directly on the rocker. But I'm working on figuring how and where to bolt it.. any suggestions?

06-12-2005, 11:51 PM	#15 (permalink)
zukman27 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Member # 41559 Location: Normalville Pennsylvania Posts: 95	I welded 4x4 angle to my rockers I have jacked the whole side up quite a few times with the high lift jack it holds fine. Also covers up smashed rockers great __________________ The Second Amendment is the reset button.

06-13-2005, 12:10 AM	#16 (permalink)
redzook Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Member # 15738 Location: Australia Posts: 490	one of the best mods i done to my new zuk was to cut the rockers off and then weld some sliders up higher i have about an extra 4-5 inches more clearance now

06-13-2005, 02:45 PM	#18 (permalink)
budgetsami Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Member # 43278 Location: Ceres, Ca Posts: 222	redzook--or anybody with his idea have any pics---sounds like a good idea-- I assume that you cut the rockers to the botton on the floor, then simply put some 4x4 angle on---am even close??

06-13-2005, 03:27 PM	#19 (permalink)
Dyevzuk Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Member # 36515 Location: Montreal, Qc, Canada Posts: 14	Someone show me is idea. He tooks 2x4 tubing 3/16 thick to replace his rocker. He welded them flush with the floor on the 4 inches side.

06-14-2005, 09:55 AM	#23 (permalink)
Philthy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Member # 8105 Location: Scottsdale Posts: 98	This way is not as strong but the clearance you get is great. After a few years of beating on the truck, the rockers are pretty foul, but so is the rest of the truck. If I had a to do over I would fully weld the angle to the sheetmetal instead of just stitching it. http://www.abusivemotorsports.com/st...ection=2&id=16 __________________ Troy Wiora Senior Test Pilot [url]www.AbusiveMotorSports.com[/url]

06-14-2005, 10:50 AM	#24 (permalink)
poi-dog Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Member # 12987 Location: Kaneohe, Hawaii(Oahu 96744) Posts: 114	Here is some awesome info/thread on the the zuwharrie.com forum on making some sturdy & good looking rockers w/ boxed material. They fill up the void after cutting out the damaged/rusty lower rocker panels.(http://bbs.zuwharrie.com/content/top...058d48392c7eaa) But for some reason, the pics don't pull up for me any more? Perhaps, can ask them to e-mail them to you or repost them. __________________ ------------------------------------------------------ aloha! ......renny www.whatreallyhappened.com/HAWAII/hawaii.html www.alohaquest.com 1989 chevy v30 crewcab 4X4 1987 samurai(soon VW 1.9L TDI/Toy xmsn) [COLOR=Red]eh, no call me won coconut or pineapple, I not won fruitcake![/COLOR]

06-14-2005, 03:31 PM	#25 (permalink)
Dyevzuk Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Member # 36515 Location: Montreal, Qc, Canada Posts: 14	I think 3/16 is way enough! 1/4 is overkill and HEAVY I'll go with 3/16 thick and 3x3

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