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kd7srj · 06-07-2003, 12:48 AM

It seems we are plagued with vibes from t-cases drivelines centered rear toy diffs off center sammi rear diffs double cv drivelines etc etc....it seems to be a neverending battle....my question is....hasnt anybody tried using a cv joint like a front wheel drive style ??? a front wheel drive cv setup operates smoothly through so many more angles than our fixed up-down style but we get the vibes...

I am thinking about an olds toronado style cv shaft setup

get a long slip yoke assembly attach a cv at each end. cut the splined shafts off of each end. center up a flange at each end and...Blam no vibes....! or is there something i am missing????

BigFrank · 06-07-2003, 01:39 AM

I use a Toy, both front and rear

Double Cardon Joint CV Driveshaft

The only time my drive line vibe is when the U-joints are whacked.

I think if the pinion is in line the joints should last..... A wile.

But what the heck do I know.

I'm a sexual spastic.

Goof · 06-07-2003, 02:46 AM

There are a lot of people, like Frank, running the toyota Double Cardon Joint CV Driveshafts. It gets rid of the paint shaker effect nicely.

weedwacker · 06-07-2003, 03:16 AM

I use a toy cv rear. My junk ran very smooth untill I installed a poly t-case mount kit. The sammy ran like it had square tires on it. Put the stock rubber back on and now it feels like a caddy.

Rockrat · 06-07-2003, 05:25 AM

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Originally posted by kd7srj
It seems we are plagued with vibes from t-cases drivelines centered rear toy diffs off center sammi rear diffs double cv drivelines etc etc....it seems to be a neverending battle....my question is....hasnt anybody tried using a cv joint like a front wheel drive style ??? a front wheel drive cv setup operates smoothly through so many more angles than our fixed up-down style but we get the vibes...

I am thinking about an olds toronado style cv shaft setup

get a long slip yoke assembly attach a cv at each end. cut the splined shafts off of each end. center up a flange at each end and...Blam no vibes....! or is there something i am missing????

If you look hard enough you'll see that someone already was doing that for the constant velosity joint. it would most likely work great in front under low speed during 4x4 operation.. But they are not ment to have the rotational rpm put to them That is they wouldnt take the normal RPM say in 2wd they spin to fast from the t-case vs. where they would normally be at ie after the gearing in the 3rd

78mphgpr · 06-07-2003, 05:25 AM

I am running poly tcase mounts, centered Toy axle, front Toy driveshaft on the rear of my Zuk and it is smooth as silk at 80.

Tusker · 06-07-2003, 07:32 AM

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Originally posted by weedwacker
I use a toy cv rear. My junk ran very smooth untill I installed a poly t-case mount kit. The sammy ran like it had square tires on it. Put the stock rubber back on and now it feels like a caddy.

....... then you still have vibration, its just the rubber mounts mask it better than the poly.

One other possible cause of vibration is bent t-case mounts, especially the short side (drivers) mount. That happened to me. If they are bent enough, it doesn't matter what drive shaft you put on, it'll still shake your teeth out.

jinx · 06-07-2003, 09:34 AM

that's what made me go with the waggoneer axles, bites that problem in the ass real quick, also gets rid of the birffs in the front. The downside????? WIDTH

Damo · 06-07-2003, 01:43 PM

I think you guys might have missed exactly what kd7srj was talkin about. He's talking about the constant velocity joints you find in a front wheel drive car.

This should work, the only thing you would have to be careful of is making sure they were SEALED from water and dirt. In their original use they have rubber boots to stop the junk getting in, CVs die quickly otherwise. I think if you did any decent sort of wheeling you would be constantly tearing up the boots.

On a side note, the guy over here in Oz that won last years Tuff Truck built his shafts using 100 series land cruiser birfs.

kd7srj · 06-07-2003, 02:23 PM

i see what rockrat is saying the fact that the drive line spins sooo much faster than the actual wheel on a front wheel drive car especially since i have 5.12's it would probably disnegrate pretty fast UNLESS! i am limited to a top speed due to t case reduction....hmmm

Bill4rest · 06-07-2003, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kd7srj
i see what rockrat is saying the fact that the drive line spins sooo much faster than the actual wheel on a front wheel drive car especially since i have 5.12's it would probably disnegrate pretty fast UNLESS! i am limited to a top speed due to t case reduction....hmmm

Yip a couple people make them. Tim Hardy is one, A freind of mine had a Hardy shafts. One day while driving to work he herd and felt the rubber boot explode

kd7srj · 06-07-2003, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bill4rest

Yip a couple people make them. Tim Hardy is one, A freind of mine had a Hardy shafts. One day while driving to work he herd and felt the rubber boot explode

kinda like the water broke..he he

what a dirt magnet of a mess

billyjoebob · 06-08-2003, 09:51 AM

i found these guys when doing my toy CV shaft (adapters from rockrat) conversion.
Check this

06-07-2003, 12:48 AM	#1 (permalink)
kd7srj Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Member # 16401 Location: BOZO Idaho Posts: 592	Vibes ViBeS vIbEs It seems we are plagued with vibes from t-cases drivelines centered rear toy diffs off center sammi rear diffs double cv drivelines etc etc....it seems to be a neverending battle....my question is....hasnt anybody tried using a cv joint like a front wheel drive style ??? a front wheel drive cv setup operates smoothly through so many more angles than our fixed up-down style but we get the vibes... I am thinking about an olds toronado style cv shaft setup get a long slip yoke assembly attach a cv at each end. cut the splined shafts off of each end. center up a flange at each end and...Blam no vibes....! or is there something i am missing???? __________________ 85 toyota P.U.caged, Bobbed, chevy rears, 529's ,rearmains up front, spools, crossover steering, limited to 33's till I get longfields, changing birfs on the trail sucks.

06-07-2003, 03:16 AM	#4 (permalink)
weedwacker Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Member # 15945 Location: Savannah Ga. Redneck capital Posts: 1,689	I use a toy cv rear. My junk ran very smooth untill I installed a poly t-case mount kit. The sammy ran like it had square tires on it. Put the stock rubber back on and now it feels like a caddy. __________________ Pens and Paper for peace, help our troops win hearts and minds! - [url]http://www.freemanproject.org/about-the-project/our-mission[/url]

06-07-2003, 05:25 AM	#6 (permalink)
78mphgpr Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Member # 11105 Location: Bradenton FL Posts: 540	I am running poly tcase mounts, centered Toy axle, front Toy driveshaft on the rear of my Zuk and it is smooth as silk at 80. __________________ PSC Bruiser

06-07-2003, 09:34 AM	#8 (permalink)
jinx Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Member # 20238 Location: Columbia TN Posts: 3	that's what made me go with the waggoneer axles, bites that problem in the ass real quick, also gets rid of the birffs in the front. The downside????? WIDTH __________________ 88.5 sami dual cases, 4to1, dana 44's w/ofset rear, locked f/r, 5.39's, 4 link f/r w/ areostar coils, tj driveshafts, hydraulic steering 38.12.50 tsl's on 15x8 32bolt beadlocks

06-07-2003, 01:43 PM	#9 (permalink)
Damo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Member # 9123 Location: Brisbane Posts: 204	I think you guys might have missed exactly what kd7srj was talkin about. He's talking about the constant velocity joints you find in a front wheel drive car. This should work, the only thing you would have to be careful of is making sure they were SEALED from water and dirt. In their original use they have rubber boots to stop the junk getting in, CVs die quickly otherwise. I think if you did any decent sort of wheeling you would be constantly tearing up the boots. On a side note, the guy over here in Oz that won last years Tuff Truck built his shafts using 100 series land cruiser birfs. __________________ Metal to burn, sparks to fly...

06-07-2003, 01:39 AM	#2 (permalink)
BigFrank Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Member # 10706 Location: Victoria, BC. Canada Posts: 498	I use a Toy, both front and rear Double Cardon Joint CV Driveshaft The only time my drive line vibe is when the U-joints are whacked. I think if the pinion is in line the joints should last..... A wile. But what the heck do I know. I'm a sexual spastic.

06-07-2003, 02:46 AM	#3 (permalink)
Goof Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11626 Location: Canada, BC Posts: 442	There are a lot of people, like Frank, running the toyota Double Cardon Joint CV Driveshafts. It gets rid of the paint shaker effect nicely.

06-07-2003, 02:23 PM	#10 (permalink)
kd7srj Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Member # 16401 Location: BOZO Idaho Posts: 592	i see what rockrat is saying the fact that the drive line spins sooo much faster than the actual wheel on a front wheel drive car especially since i have 5.12's it would probably disnegrate pretty fast UNLESS! i am limited to a top speed due to t case reduction....hmmm __________________ 85 toyota P.U.caged, Bobbed, chevy rears, 529's ,rearmains up front, spools, crossover steering, limited to 33's till I get longfields, changing birfs on the trail sucks.

06-08-2003, 09:51 AM	#13 (permalink)
billyjoebob Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Member # 19411 Location: East County Posts: 145	i found these guys when doing my toy CV shaft (adapters from rockrat) conversion. Check this

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