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Old 01-20-2002, 11:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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New To Sammi's, need help

I'm a land rover guy but i'm now looking into getting something just for wheeling purposes. It seems like a Sammi would be a good way to go. The only one i've seen for sale that interests me is a fellow forum member. It is an 86, SOA, 33s, winch, welder, cage, etc. I've been looking for answers to a few questions. First of all, what is the difference between model years...is an 86 ok? What should I expect to pay for a decently built one? I can't afford to do an entire build up myself again, so i'm trying to find one with a decent amount of mods that I can just add onto. Also, what, in general, can i expect from a Sammi? Any advice is greatly appreciated.

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Old 01-20-2002, 12:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Where do I start?
It really depends on what you are willing to spend. For example I don't think squirrel83 wouls sell his for less than $6000 (my opinion). I have a little over $3000 into mine and I'm not even close to being finished with it. You can pick up a Sami from $100 to $3000 and build it yourself or you can spend $2000 to $6000 for one that's has some mods already done to it. It's like anything else. See what they are selling it for and barter from there.


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to start with.........welcome newbie
now, for zuki, because the engines arn't all that powerful you have to gear them pretty low, most people say that a 4.16:1 t-case is good for 31"s some like it even lower, some will do fine with 4.16 case and 33"s which i'll be doing, right now i have stock gears with 31"s and i could see driving it like that but you'll loose 5th........ it all depends on what you like, you like rocks, you want gears, you like mud, you still need gears but not as low, if your a hill guy you need fairly low gears........ you like rocks and have 33"s and lockers, you realy need stronger axles.....
i prrsonally bought mine for 300$ stock, and building it myself, i have less than 500$ into it as of now, but i'll begetting a 4.16 case soon, 33"s, maybe a 1.6, and maybe toy axles...... the way you should do it is get a stocker, drive it the way you want, if you think you nee more flex go SPOA with missing links, if you think you need more traction get a locker or weld your rear, if you think you need better tires for mud get some mud terraines around 31"s and go a simple spoa, if you think you need gears cause it bogs out get a t-case out of a 84 suzuki which has a 4.16:1 low....... everyone will tell you something different......
this is just the way i did mine.....
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Old 01-20-2002, 09:21 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I agree 100% Mud.
I run 33's and will have 4.16 t-case in a month. I will also be installing a AAPA Sumo head w/lowend cam and a centerforce dual-friction. I can still do 55-65 on the interstate with my stock gears, but I'm always shifting from 3rd to 4th constantly............unless I'm drafting.
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When I wrote this I had 99. still a newbie. When it is posted I will no longer be a newbie . I am now a wheeler.
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Old 01-20-2002, 10:04 PM   #6 (permalink)
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The 84 and earlier SJ410's do not have a 4.16 t-case. They have the same 1.58 high range ratio as the 4.16 t-cases, but their low range is 2.51.

A 4.16 t-case is generally great up to 31-32 inch tires. A 4.89 t-case is great with 31-33 inch tires. If you plan to use 33's or larger, it'll save you money to get one of the Sumo 6.1 t-cases (with its 1.75 high range) versus getting a 4.16 and some ring and pinion gears.
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Re: New To Sammi's, need help

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I'm a land rover guy but i'm now looking into getting something just for wheeling purposes. It seems like a Sammi would be a good way to go. The only one i've seen for sale that interests me is a fellow forum member. It is an 86, SOA, 33s, winch, welder, cage, etc. I've been looking for answers to a few questions. First of all, what is the difference between model years...is an 86 ok? What should I expect to pay for a decently built one? I can't afford to do an entire build up myself again, so i'm trying to find one with a decent amount of mods that I can just add onto. Also, what, in general, can i expect from a Sammi? Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
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any year is a good year IMOP. set out your priorities and go from there, the kind of wheeling do you will tell you how to set up your Samy. for Mud and a little rocks here and there, I have seen guy's run well with just a 4.16 case and 33's.

What would I do with limited funds?

stock Samy..........$1500 to $2500
SPOA ...................$500
31 or 32" tires........$ whatever kind you want
Lockright's F&R........$350----or just one for the rear $175
Sumo T-case (6.1) $1200
Full cage for safty!!! Davesport or Xtream (I endorse these cuz I know they work)
new front bumper............just cuz you will look silly with the stocker
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Old 01-20-2002, 11:24 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Full cage for safty!!! Davesport or Xtream (I endorse these cuz I know they work)
new front bumper............just cuz you will look silly with the stocker
Oh come on. The stock front bumper is cool. We all know that the front bumper has about as much metal as a tin can. The front bumper is a must since almost any larger tire will rub on the bumper or the bumper mount tube.

I second the endorsement for a Davesport cage. I have one and am quite happy with it. I just want to add some more cross-bracing in there (main hoop to front hoop side bars, bar behind the front seats for harness mounts, etc). So far I haven't had to test it out yet, but give me time, I'm sure it will happen.
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new front bumper............just cuz you will look silly with the stocker
hey I resemble that remark.......
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hey I resemble that remark.......

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