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rangerjoe2001 · 11-10-2004, 10:44 AM

anyone ever installed a ford 8.8 in their samurai. I know its popular for jeeps. But they are very strong axles. Anyone know of an axle that i could use up front that has the punkin offset to the same side as the samurai axle?

the width of the ford 8.8 is 59" wms-wms

Orionn · 11-10-2004, 11:05 AM

Well, unless your getting the 8.8 cheap, you would be better off going with Toyota axles, or Dana 44 wagoneer axles front and rear.

Do some searching and read alot, and then make your decision.
Personally I feel the 8.8 is better left for the jHeep guys.

Oh, and WELCOME

ya Noobe

SilverZuk · 11-10-2004, 11:17 AM

It's about the same strength as a D-44.
If you are going to swap one, make sure it has rear disks.
That is what would attract me to the 8.8 over other types of axle.
Many ford exploders had 8.8 with rear disks. I know it's almost a direct swap into a YJ.
So should be super easy for a suzuki. The only downside is that it is a C-clip type axle. Which shouldn't be a problem if you are not running over a 36 or big horsepower.

Orionn · 11-10-2004, 11:18 AM

BTW, if ya GOTTA run the 8.8, get a EB D44 front, its about the closest out there for the 8.8 (assuming your getting the 8.8 from an Xploder, like the jHeep guys do)
Or mayby a wide track D30 from a CJ, but you need to check the width.

Good luck

Orionn · 11-10-2004, 11:30 AM

Silverzuk:
your corect, the factory rear disk brakes are about the best thing about the 8.8, and that its marginally stronger that a D44.
As for the C-clip 'problem', the jHeep guys up here dont have a problem with it running the big tires, if you get one from a ranger, the spring pads are already SPOA, though they are probably in the wrong place.

IMO, unless you have a disk brake model though, I would not run it, just not worth the wieght.

rangerjoe2001 · 11-10-2004, 03:43 PM

well the thing is I already have one laying in the back yard.. was gonna put it on my jeep cherokee, but decided to go with the Dana 44 that i bought later on.

Yes i am a noob to the suzuki samurai section but ive been a jeeper for 4 years, so i know my stuff. Just not too educated on the axles you guys like to put in these samurai's.

Oh yeah its off a 97 explorer with the disc breaks!!

DemoMike · 11-10-2004, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orionn

Silverzuk:
.... if you get one from a ranger, the spring pads are already SPOA, though they are probably in the wrong place.

IMO, unless you have a disk brake model though, I would not run it, just not worth the wieght.

What year did they start running rear discs on Rangers?

Other downer would be matching or changing the 5 on 4.5 pattern...

bogger61 · 11-10-2004, 03:51 PM

Just off set a 9"ford for the rear and add disc brakes.Cut up a full chev dana front and use scott inner axle and use ford outer parts

rangerjoe2001 · 11-10-2004, 03:56 PM

And the reason I wanna go with these axles is the extra widt.. this is gonna be a trail only sami. I am used to the width of these axles and have never had a problem fitting into places with the almost 60" wms width. It will give extra stability which i would like to have. Also i am already decent at working on these types of axles "ford 8.8, and Dana axles"

Orionn · 11-10-2004, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DemoMike

What year did they start running rear discs on Rangers?

Other downer would be matching or changing the 5 on 4.5 pattern...

They didn't, but the Xploder disks and back plate will bolt on.
as for the pattern, there is little you can do besides a custom shaft.

rollerskate · 11-10-2004, 09:30 PM

If you're considering a Ranger 8.8 axle,they only have 28 spline shafts vs 31 splines
on the full size 8.8s.

11-10-2004, 10:44 AM	#1 (permalink)
rangerjoe2001 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Member # 37829 Posts: 128	Ford 8.8 anyone ever installed a ford 8.8 in their samurai. I know its popular for jeeps. But they are very strong axles. Anyone know of an axle that i could use up front that has the punkin offset to the same side as the samurai axle? the width of the ford 8.8 is 59" wms-wms

11-10-2004, 11:05 AM	#2 (permalink)
Orionn Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11628 Location: Ann Arbor Mi. Posts: 1,455	Well, unless your getting the 8.8 cheap, you would be better off going with Toyota axles, or Dana 44 wagoneer axles front and rear. Do some searching and read alot, and then make your decision. Personally I feel the 8.8 is better left for the jHeep guys. Oh, and WELCOME ya Noobe __________________ "The road to Enlightenment requires 4-Wheel Drive" - me

11-10-2004, 11:17 AM	#3 (permalink)
SilverZuk Hillbilly Houndsman Join Date: Aug 2002 Member # 13420 Location: Kenna, West Virginia Posts: 6,868	It's about the same strength as a D-44. If you are going to swap one, make sure it has rear disks. That is what would attract me to the 8.8 over other types of axle. Many ford exploders had 8.8 with rear disks. I know it's almost a direct swap into a YJ. So should be super easy for a suzuki. The only downside is that it is a C-clip type axle. Which shouldn't be a problem if you are not running over a 36 or big horsepower. __________________ The penalty for punching someone in the mouth is way too high in our society. www.MountaineerOffroad.com

11-10-2004, 11:18 AM	#4 (permalink)
Orionn Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11628 Location: Ann Arbor Mi. Posts: 1,455	BTW, if ya GOTTA run the 8.8, get a EB D44 front, its about the closest out there for the 8.8 (assuming your getting the 8.8 from an Xploder, like the jHeep guys do) Or mayby a wide track D30 from a CJ, but you need to check the width. Good luck __________________ "The road to Enlightenment requires 4-Wheel Drive" - me Last edited by Orionn; 11-10-2004 at 11:20 AM.

11-10-2004, 11:30 AM	#5 (permalink)
Orionn Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11628 Location: Ann Arbor Mi. Posts: 1,455	Silverzuk: your corect, the factory rear disk brakes are about the best thing about the 8.8, and that its marginally stronger that a D44. As for the C-clip 'problem', the jHeep guys up here dont have a problem with it running the big tires, if you get one from a ranger, the spring pads are already SPOA, though they are probably in the wrong place. IMO, unless you have a disk brake model though, I would not run it, just not worth the wieght. __________________ "The road to Enlightenment requires 4-Wheel Drive" - me

11-10-2004, 03:43 PM	#6 (permalink)
rangerjoe2001 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Member # 37829 Posts: 128	well the thing is I already have one laying in the back yard.. was gonna put it on my jeep cherokee, but decided to go with the Dana 44 that i bought later on. Yes i am a noob to the suzuki samurai section but ive been a jeeper for 4 years, so i know my stuff. Just not too educated on the axles you guys like to put in these samurai's. Oh yeah its off a 97 explorer with the disc breaks!! Last edited by rangerjoe2001; 11-10-2004 at 03:52 PM.

11-10-2004, 03:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
bogger61 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Member # 37182 Posts: 324	Just off set a 9"ford for the rear and add disc brakes.Cut up a full chev dana front and use scott inner axle and use ford outer parts

11-10-2004, 03:56 PM	#9 (permalink)
rangerjoe2001 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Member # 37829 Posts: 128	And the reason I wanna go with these axles is the extra widt.. this is gonna be a trail only sami. I am used to the width of these axles and have never had a problem fitting into places with the almost 60" wms width. It will give extra stability which i would like to have. Also i am already decent at working on these types of axles "ford 8.8, and Dana axles"

11-10-2004, 09:30 PM	#11 (permalink)
rollerskate Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Member # 15413 Location: Santa Rosa,CA Posts: 310	If you're considering a Ranger 8.8 axle,they only have 28 spline shafts vs 31 splines on the full size 8.8s.

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