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lwrider20 · 05-05-2005, 10:30 PM

ok ive searched around and havent really found what im lookin for. i just put a 1.6 8v in my sammy. i am running the stock sammy radiator in it now but it is running waaayy too hot. ive heard that the stock radiators will cool a 1.6 fine but would it matter that i have a sumo 2 head on it and a header? plus i live in az

or do you think my problem lies elsewhere? also if i do need a bigger radiator what can i run in it that will still fit? thanks in advance.

Rockrat · 05-06-2005, 05:17 AM

put an electric fan on it. Completely remove the stock clutch fan. Problem solved

TatorZuk · 05-06-2005, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by lwrider20

also if i do need a bigger radiator what can i run in it that will still fit? thanks in advance.

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**NEW** ultra high efficiency 3 core radiator with super fine fins. These radiators are ALL NEW, not re-cores! No core return is required!

TT sells this one...I think it's a direct fit.

I'd try Rockrats pusher fan idea first though.

lwrider20 · 05-06-2005, 11:08 AM

cool thanks for the suggestions. so if i do a electric fan is there a certain size or one i should get? or should i go with petroworks fan clutch eliminator?

Rockrat · 05-06-2005, 11:37 AM

We used an off the shelf autozone electric fan 12 or 14" it just fit the radiator section.

Tusker · 05-06-2005, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by lwrider20

cool thanks for the suggestions. so if i do a electric fan is there a certain size or one i should get? or should i go with petroworks fan clutch eliminator?

I have the same engine and it ran too hot as well. I got the 3-core radiator, the direct-drive fan, use water wetter, and moved my power steering cooler completely out of the air flow. It runs warm now. It'll stay around 180 until I go crawlin in the heat, and then it will get to 195 to 200. Hotter than I would like, but not deadly hot.

A good electric fan is the ticket for cooling, unless/until it stops working......

simonw · 05-06-2005, 01:06 PM

try checking at a forklift shop. A forklift radiator has about a million cores... and they are small in size.

szki272 · 05-09-2005, 10:55 AM

from what I recall the 1300 radiator is ok for the 1600 16 v not for the 8 valve. I am shure there are those who have done it. A modded 8 valve is probably worse yet.

The options I know of are the Trail Tough 3 core radiator (last I knew they were the cheapest for them) or

kick / tracker 2 door radiator requires some custom work to fit it.

lwrider20 · 05-13-2005, 01:10 PM

ok i went and got me a 12" electric fan. now how is the world did you guys mount it. there isnt enough room on the front or back. should i take the stock fan out and move the radiator back so i can mount it as a pusher?

Samurai202 · 05-13-2005, 01:44 PM

I had a 1.6L 8V, stock sammy radiator worked fine for me.

lwrider20 · 05-13-2005, 02:16 PM

ya but i have a slightly modified motor so im sure thats why it runs a little warm.

wbtowery · 05-13-2005, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tusker

A good electric fan is the ticket for cooling, unless/until it stops working......

Is this a common problem? I mean other than stuffing your engine compartment with mud, how often has a good, high-quality electric fan just quit?

lwrider20 · 05-14-2005, 04:47 PM

ok now im really confused. im pretty sure now my samurai is just possesed. i went out and got me a 12" electric fan from auto zone. fabbed up some new radiator mounts so the fan would fit as a pusher. so i fire it up and let it sit. it gets to about half way and stays there at idle. so i drive it down the street and come back and it gets to about 3/4 of the way on the temp guage and just stays there. so i figure the fan must be working cause its keeping it at this temp. so i shut the fan off and the temp guage drops down to 1/2 way. turn the fan back on and it goes to 3/4. turn it off and back down to half. what the heck is up with that?

wbtowery · 05-15-2005, 10:01 AM

Are you still running your stock fan?

Bill4rest · 05-15-2005, 11:04 AM

Pushers SUCK!!!!! You need a puller, And the 3 core rad is NOT bigger than the reg 2 core. It just has 3 small core vs. 2 big cores. If the 2 core is in good shape it *should* be fine with an elc PULLER fan

lwrider20 · 05-15-2005, 11:06 AM

no i had to take that one out in order to fit the electric fan.

05-05-2005, 10:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
lwrider20 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Member # 21525 Location: glendale,az Posts: 27	radiator help ok ive searched around and havent really found what im lookin for. i just put a 1.6 8v in my sammy. i am running the stock sammy radiator in it now but it is running waaayy too hot. ive heard that the stock radiators will cool a 1.6 fine but would it matter that i have a sumo 2 head on it and a header? plus i live in az or do you think my problem lies elsewhere? also if i do need a bigger radiator what can i run in it that will still fit? thanks in advance.

05-06-2005, 05:17 AM	#2 (permalink)
Rockrat Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Nov 2001 Member # 8111 Location: Waukegan Illinois Posts: 3,842	put an electric fan on it. Completely remove the stock clutch fan. Problem solved __________________ Your right I own the Fucking Place All Rock 4X Fab Products Made IN THE USA!!! Rock 4X Fabrication,Inc 1-847-672-9653

05-06-2005, 11:08 AM	#4 (permalink)
lwrider20 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Member # 21525 Location: glendale,az Posts: 27	cool thanks for the suggestions. so if i do a electric fan is there a certain size or one i should get? or should i go with petroworks fan clutch eliminator? Last edited by lwrider20; 05-06-2005 at 11:09 AM.

05-06-2005, 11:37 AM	#5 (permalink)
Rockrat Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Nov 2001 Member # 8111 Location: Waukegan Illinois Posts: 3,842	We used an off the shelf autozone electric fan 12 or 14" it just fit the radiator section. __________________ Your right I own the Fucking Place All Rock 4X Fab Products Made IN THE USA!!! Rock 4X Fabrication,Inc 1-847-672-9653

05-09-2005, 10:55 AM	#8 (permalink)
szki272 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Member # 16764 Location: eureka ca Posts: 452	from what I recall the 1300 radiator is ok for the 1600 16 v not for the 8 valve. I am shure there are those who have done it. A modded 8 valve is probably worse yet. The options I know of are the Trail Tough 3 core radiator (last I knew they were the cheapest for them) or kick / tracker 2 door radiator requires some custom work to fit it. __________________ i live in a world of stupid people and smart phones

05-06-2005, 01:06 PM	#7 (permalink)
simonw Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Member # 42998 Location: Fort Smith, Arkansas Posts: 121	try checking at a forklift shop. A forklift radiator has about a million cores... and they are small in size.

05-13-2005, 01:10 PM	#9 (permalink)
lwrider20 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Member # 21525 Location: glendale,az Posts: 27	ok i went and got me a 12" electric fan. now how is the world did you guys mount it. there isnt enough room on the front or back. should i take the stock fan out and move the radiator back so i can mount it as a pusher?

05-13-2005, 01:44 PM	#10 (permalink)
Samurai202 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 9869 Location: OREGON COAST Posts: 254	I had a 1.6L 8V, stock sammy radiator worked fine for me.

05-13-2005, 02:16 PM	#11 (permalink)
lwrider20 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Member # 21525 Location: glendale,az Posts: 27	ya but i have a slightly modified motor so im sure thats why it runs a little warm.

05-14-2005, 04:47 PM	#13 (permalink)
lwrider20 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Member # 21525 Location: glendale,az Posts: 27	ok now im really confused. im pretty sure now my samurai is just possesed. i went out and got me a 12" electric fan from auto zone. fabbed up some new radiator mounts so the fan would fit as a pusher. so i fire it up and let it sit. it gets to about half way and stays there at idle. so i drive it down the street and come back and it gets to about 3/4 of the way on the temp guage and just stays there. so i figure the fan must be working cause its keeping it at this temp. so i shut the fan off and the temp guage drops down to 1/2 way. turn the fan back on and it goes to 3/4. turn it off and back down to half. what the heck is up with that?

05-15-2005, 10:01 AM	#14 (permalink)
wbtowery Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Member # 24834 Location: Southern Nevada Posts: 8	Are you still running your stock fan?

05-15-2005, 11:04 AM	#15 (permalink)
Bill4rest Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Member # 8174 Location: So Cal, home of the Hammers!!!!!! Posts: 3,565	Pushers SUCK!!!!! You need a puller, And the 3 core rad is NOT bigger than the reg 2 core. It just has 3 small core vs. 2 big cores. If the 2 core is in good shape it should be fine with an elc PULLER fan

05-15-2005, 11:06 AM	#16 (permalink)
lwrider20 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Member # 21525 Location: glendale,az Posts: 27	no i had to take that one out in order to fit the electric fan.

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