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Old 08-02-2005, 04:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Need some help with coilovers...

Hi , we are going to modify a Samurai.Among the mods,we want to replace leafs and shocks with coilovers.I m not too familiar with coilovers but I know that each one has two coil springs.The question is how can we find what coils to use (how many Lbs each ) and how to combine them together in order to have the same result if we used simple coil springs 200 Lbs ?
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George if you are looking for a dual rate coil shock you need to look into the folowing venders. They will have what you are looking for. Swayaway racerunner 2" coil over or
King shocks. As far as spring rates, every vehicle will be different based on the weight of the rig. most start with a 150#130# but again it depends on your rig. I would suggest to stay simple and use a a regular 2" coil over spring made by QA1 in a 165#. to 175# one spring at all 4 corners and you should be good. I run coilovers on our buggy and air shocks it takes alot of time to set them up correctly even when you know what you are doing
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As far as spring rates, every vehicle will be different based on the weight of the rig. most start with a 150#130# but again it depends on your rig. I would suggest to stay simple and use a a regular 2" coil over spring made by QA1 in a 165#. to 175# one spring at all 4 corners and you should be good. I run coilovers on our buggy and air shocks it takes alot of time to set them up correctly even when you know what you are doing
The rig will be a Samurai with a 1.6 Sidekick engine,stock axles (at least for now) front winch bumper and an 8000Lbs winch on 31x10,5x15.When you say 150 130 you mean the lower (longer) coils will be 150 Lbs and the short upper 130 Lbs ?

And the other option if I got it right will be just one spring to a regular 2" coilover ?
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I think Rockrat is saying to keep it more simple then a coilover by useing a seperate shock and coil. Use JUST a coilover SPRING (not the whole setup, JUST the coilover spring) and use one coilover SPRING at each corner, about 165-176 #. Then just use a shock along side the spring.
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I think Rockrat is saying to keep it more simple then a coilover by useing a seperate shock and coil. Use JUST a coilover SPRING (not the whole setup, JUST the coilover spring) and use one coilover SPRING at each corner, about 165-176 #. Then just use a shock along side the spring.
Thank you. I agree that this is the best and more simple way.This is the way I did my sas on the kick.It includes more fabricating and welding but I guess this is the reason my friend (mechanic) and the owner want try the coiovers where they will just have to make 4 simple lower axle mounts and 4 reinforced upper ones.Now the set up.....its another story.
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Thank you. I agree that this is the best and more simple way.This is the way I did my sas on the kick.It includes more fabricating and welding but I guess this is the reason my friend (mechanic) and the owner want try the coiovers where they will just have to make 4 simple lower axle mounts and 4 reinforced upper ones.Now the set up.....its another story.
I think another option could be an air shock? From what I know, they eliminate the coil altogether, I think. Don't know much about em, just have seen some pics of em.
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It's nice to see some one from EU also building coil over's for suzuki.
I bought mine (12" SAW dual rate) from Polyperformance. You only need to specify your rig and what kind of use your suzuki is made for.
Polyperformance will assemble after thet everything for you.

My shocks are 185/275 spring rates per shock. Don't know how they are performing as they are still in box but I belive that they are good for my safari and trail rig.

Does anyone know if 12" coilover need to have 2pcs 12" coils?
I have one 12" and other is 10"...
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