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Samurai202 · 08-15-2005, 11:51 AM

Ok here's the deal. I am at a cross roads with my modifications and can't quite decide which way to go. I have a stock 1.3L, recently rebuilt, with a spoa and 31's, and a 4:1 transfercase. The motor runs fine, has some lilttle carb problems, and burns some oil, but nothing huge.

First scenario is to buy some 5.13's for the axles and lock them front and rear. I tow except for errands around town so RPM's are not an issue.

Second one is to buy a 1.6L 8V. I can get the motor for around $200.00. It comes with the throttle body injection, I will just need to buy an ecu and a modified wiring harness. I should have enough left to buy a spool for the rear end. The deal on the gears isnt a killer deal anyway and I can find them at the price I was trying to get anytime. But I dont see alot of 1.6L go for that price hard to find around here. My main thing is my 1.3L is in good shape and runs good, so I dunno what to do. It would be hella nice to get some more low end torque and FI.....Anyway any opinons are welcome.

DemoMike · 08-15-2005, 01:44 PM

Motor, then Toy axles...

super_zook · 08-15-2005, 02:04 PM

Get a Midwest Performance Weber setup. A lot of people trash the Weber because of off-road angles, but Sarge modifies them for 45+ degrees. I got a 38DGAS from him and it runs faster than any 1.6L 8v I have ever seen! That coupled with a Calmini header, 2" exhaust and SUMOII head, this thing will take most stock Hondas off the line!

Samurai202 · 08-15-2005, 02:18 PM

Well I could always run the 1.6L carbed anyway. I have talked to sarge before and I know he does good work. But it is still a carb, FI is so much more reliable.

I have gone extreme with samurai's before (4.3L and 36's) and thats not the plan for this one. 31's will probably be the max that this rig see's. Someday maybe 33's but even then the stock axles would be fine for the mild crawling that I do.

super_zook · 08-15-2005, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Samurai202

Well I could always run the 1.6L carbed anyway. I have talked to sarge before and I know he does good work. But it is still a carb, FI is so much more reliable.

I was just thinking it's a helluva lot less work to throw on a Weber!

After I got mine on, I was able to chirp second in the 1.3L! Woo-hoo!

Chainlink · 08-15-2005, 04:10 PM

Buy the 1.6 pack it away for another time. At that price you could always unload it easily if needed. If and when the 1.3 needs major work do the swap then. Just remeber to moth ball the 1.6 so it will be just as good when you did want to do somtthing with it. Just my .02

GeoB · 08-15-2005, 05:18 PM

You mentioned lockers.. I wanna say that next to my gears my lockers did more to make me trail worthy than anything. And I'm not sure but what in some conditions the lockers would be better than the gears.

Samurai202 · 08-15-2005, 08:55 PM

Yeah it has been awhile since I have had a rig that wasn't locked front and rear. It is driving me nut's. Oh well I guess I could just weld them up and run them till they break.

jones · 08-15-2005, 10:55 PM

1.3s are not exactly plentiful around here. So I would get the 1.6, use the EFI for sure, and unload the 1.3.

08-15-2005, 11:51 AM	#1 (permalink)
Samurai202 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 9869 Location: OREGON COAST Posts: 254	At a cross roads Ok here's the deal. I am at a cross roads with my modifications and can't quite decide which way to go. I have a stock 1.3L, recently rebuilt, with a spoa and 31's, and a 4:1 transfercase. The motor runs fine, has some lilttle carb problems, and burns some oil, but nothing huge. First scenario is to buy some 5.13's for the axles and lock them front and rear. I tow except for errands around town so RPM's are not an issue. Second one is to buy a 1.6L 8V. I can get the motor for around $200.00. It comes with the throttle body injection, I will just need to buy an ecu and a modified wiring harness. I should have enough left to buy a spool for the rear end. The deal on the gears isnt a killer deal anyway and I can find them at the price I was trying to get anytime. But I dont see alot of 1.6L go for that price hard to find around here. My main thing is my 1.3L is in good shape and runs good, so I dunno what to do. It would be hella nice to get some more low end torque and FI.....Anyway any opinons are welcome.

08-15-2005, 02:04 PM	#3 (permalink)
super_zook Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Member # 42415 Location: Holland, MI Posts: 137	Get a Midwest Performance Weber setup. A lot of people trash the Weber because of off-road angles, but Sarge modifies them for 45+ degrees. I got a 38DGAS from him and it runs faster than any 1.6L 8v I have ever seen! That coupled with a Calmini header, 2" exhaust and SUMOII head, this thing will take most stock Hondas off the line! __________________ 07 FJ - TRD SE - FOR SALE!!! / 01 XJ - 6.5"LA, 33" TSL's / 68 CJ-5 - In pieces ...

08-15-2005, 05:18 PM	#7 (permalink)
GeoB Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Member # 29991 Location: Fresno CA Posts: 535	You mentioned lockers.. I wanna say that next to my gears my lockers did more to make me trail worthy than anything. And I'm not sure but what in some conditions the lockers would be better than the gears. __________________ "The care of human life and happiness and not their destruction is the first and only legitimate object of good government." --Thomas Jefferson, 1809.

08-15-2005, 10:55 PM	#9 (permalink)
jones Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8687 Location: Vancouver Island B.C. Posts: 1,083	1.3s are not exactly plentiful around here. So I would get the 1.6, use the EFI for sure, and unload the 1.3. __________________ The word "jones" is a slang term meaning to crave, want, or desire; or, to feel withdrawal from an activity of passion. The general slang meaning is often associated with addictive substance habits but can be applied on a more universal scale.

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08-15-2005, 01:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
DemoMike Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Member # 8284 Posts: 1,377	Motor, then Toy axles...

08-15-2005, 02:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
Samurai202 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 9869 Location: OREGON COAST Posts: 254	Well I could always run the 1.6L carbed anyway. I have talked to sarge before and I know he does good work. But it is still a carb, FI is so much more reliable. I have gone extreme with samurai's before (4.3L and 36's) and thats not the plan for this one. 31's will probably be the max that this rig see's. Someday maybe 33's but even then the stock axles would be fine for the mild crawling that I do.

08-15-2005, 04:10 PM	#6 (permalink)
Chainlink Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Member # 37899 Posts: 55	Buy the 1.6 pack it away for another time. At that price you could always unload it easily if needed. If and when the 1.3 needs major work do the swap then. Just remeber to moth ball the 1.6 so it will be just as good when you did want to do somtthing with it. Just my .02

08-15-2005, 08:55 PM	#8 (permalink)
Samurai202 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 9869 Location: OREGON COAST Posts: 254	Yeah it has been awhile since I have had a rig that wasn't locked front and rear. It is driving me nut's. Oh well I guess I could just weld them up and run them till they break.