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texxx · 11-03-2005, 06:44 PM

I am installing the mercedes arms and modifying my steering to ott accordingly. Problem is that with my yj springs the tie rod cant mount from the bottom to the arms. Thought I would just drill the arms and flip the tie rod drag link etc. Do the arms really have to be tapered? I was just going to drill out the taper and mount. I don't want cross over only so the drag link has to go ott. Any comments appreciated.

airwerks · 11-03-2005, 06:58 PM

Yes!!!! They are an interference fit so the taper is very necessary. Ive had a lot of lowered vw bugs, and it is a common practice to flip the tie rod ends on those..... You drill the arm out, then press in a tapered insert from the other side to make it work. You might go and check at a VW place near you or on the internet and see if the size / taper is the same. Could luck out. The brand is Bugpack.

texxx · 11-03-2005, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by airwerks

Yes!!!! They are an interference fit so the taper is very necessary. Ive had a lot of lowered vw bugs, and it is a common practice to flip the tie rod ends on those..... You drill the arm out, then press in a tapered insert from the other side to make it work. You might go and check at a VW place near you or on the internet and see if the size / taper is the same. Could luck out. The brand is Bugpack.

I guess a machine shop could handle that couldn't they?

airwerks · 11-03-2005, 08:17 PM

I would vote yes but it looks like you got a better answer over on zuwharrie! I didn't know that other companies besides bugpack made the insert.

texxx · 11-03-2005, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by airwerks

I would vote yes but it looks like you got a better answer over on zuwharrie! I didn't know that other companies besides bugpack made the insert.

Yeah, but the reamer is like $75-.. I'm going to pull the arms and see what a machine shop can do. Looks like something that is not that uncommon to race cars and 4x4's. Thanks.

LittleBlackSambo · 11-03-2005, 08:47 PM

the point of using mercedes arms is keeping the project low buck. reamer is expensive. machine shop work can be also. other option would be to use rod ends and a grade 8 bolt, which would allow you to drill the taper out entirely. rod ends will be fine if the angles are not too extreme. they cost money too, though. will the mercedes arms still fit if they are flipped and reversed, i.e. left to right?

zuknstien · 11-03-2005, 08:55 PM

fuck its your steering spend a few extra bucks

texxx · 11-03-2005, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LittleBlackSambo

the point of using mercedes arms is keeping the project low buck. reamer is expensive. machine shop work can be also. other option would be to use rod ends and a grade 8 bolt, which would allow you to drill the taper out entirely. rod ends will be fine if the angles are not too extreme. they cost money too, though. will the mercedes arms still fit if they are flipped and reversed, i.e. left to right?

Won't fit if you flip them as they also angle up and would then angle down. Down is the problem. If a machine shop can't ream it and press in new sleeves then I'll go to the heim joints. Thanks.

11-03-2005, 06:44 PM	#1 (permalink)
texxx Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Member # 44002 Location: Cool CA Posts: 465	mercedes steering I am installing the mercedes arms and modifying my steering to ott accordingly. Problem is that with my yj springs the tie rod cant mount from the bottom to the arms. Thought I would just drill the arms and flip the tie rod drag link etc. Do the arms really have to be tapered? I was just going to drill out the taper and mount. I don't want cross over only so the drag link has to go ott. Any comments appreciated.

11-03-2005, 08:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
LittleBlackSambo turd-polish-a-go-go Join Date: Jun 2005 Member # 49404 Location: Deutschland RP Posts: 1,017	the point of using mercedes arms is keeping the project low buck. reamer is expensive. machine shop work can be also. other option would be to use rod ends and a grade 8 bolt, which would allow you to drill the taper out entirely. rod ends will be fine if the angles are not too extreme. they cost money too, though. will the mercedes arms still fit if they are flipped and reversed, i.e. left to right? __________________ thanks for the compliment, but it's not a jeep.

11-03-2005, 08:55 PM	#7 (permalink)
zuknstien Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Member # 31331 Location: Redding, CA Posts: 1,793	fuck its your steering spend a few extra bucks __________________ 2 zuk buggys :D hammer #1155 Last edited by zuknstien; 11-03-2005 at 09:02 PM.

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11-03-2005, 06:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
airwerks Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Member # 44987 Location: OR Posts: 6	Yes!!!! They are an interference fit so the taper is very necessary. Ive had a lot of lowered vw bugs, and it is a common practice to flip the tie rod ends on those..... You drill the arm out, then press in a tapered insert from the other side to make it work. You might go and check at a VW place near you or on the internet and see if the size / taper is the same. Could luck out. The brand is Bugpack.

11-03-2005, 08:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
airwerks Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Member # 44987 Location: OR Posts: 6	I would vote yes but it looks like you got a better answer over on zuwharrie! I didn't know that other companies besides bugpack made the insert.