Hydro assist part #'s

[jader]

Heres a list of the part #'s I used to put hydro assist steering on my Samurai.
Total cost less shipping is $75.83
If you dont allready have power steering on your machine, Then it will cost more than this, But I allready had power steering.

http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.as...=1&item=9-6645
Hydraulic cylinder 49.95

http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.as...name=hydraulic
Fittings need two sae 4 to 1/4 NPTF 1.69 each

http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.as...name=hydraulic
fittings need four 1/4 NPTM to 1/4 NPTF swivel 1.95 each

http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.as...name=hydraulic
Hoses need two 1/4 NPTM soild fitting 36" long 7.35 each

[GRW]

Assist, do you have more/better pictures showing everything?

Thanks

[jader]

Originally Posted by GRW

Assist, do you have more/better pictures showing everything?

Thanks

I didnt put up any other pictures, because there is so many other guys on this board that have already done this and are alot of pictures on here if you look for them. I was more tring to put out the part #'s of the parts used to do the job. I found parts cheep I thought I would share.
However If you want more pictures of my set up I can get you some No problem. What do you need to see more clearly?

[Damo]

What steering box you running?

[mrbogger]

Thats some good INFO THANKS

[jader]

Originally Posted by Damo

What steering box you running?

Running Toyota Celica pump with restrictor drilled out to 13/64''. Celica steering gear. And two toyota resivors, Removed the top of one resivor, cut the bottom off the other and welded the two together. Cut off the upper resivor return line and welded hole closed.

[pbmang]

man thats awsome...ive been looking at doing hydroassist for a while now...do you have any idea if it will work with other boxes (ie a 95 chevy box) and how quick is the steering response?

[jader]

Originally Posted by pbmang

man thats awsome...ive been looking at doing hydroassist for a while now...do you have any idea if it will work with other boxes (ie a 95 chevy box) and how quick is the steering response?

This cylinder will work with any steering box. Two of my friends are using this same cylinder and both are running chevy boxes.
Response is great no delay.

[catzuk]

thanks for the info! Its 2 below zero outside, be a good time to finally do the hydo assist. Did you modify the ends of the ram at all like some have done for rod ends? Doesn't look like it in the pic. And did you tap the celica box your self?

[pbmang]

excellent, i just ordered my stuff...as far as drilling and tapping...what size bit and tap did you use? i would assume a 1/4, but what threads for the tap?

and where do you tap the box?

sorry for the noob questions and thanks

[jader]

Originally Posted by catzuk

thanks for the info! Its 2 below zero outside, be a good time to finally do the hydo assist. Did you modify the ends of the ram at all like some have done for rod ends? Doesn't look like it in the pic. And did you tap the celica box your self?

I only modifyed the body end of the cylinder with a heim joint. On the shaft end, I Cut the sleeve down (with sawall) so the sleeve was as wide as the tie rod is in diameter. That way the plates welded to tie rod come straight off tie rod.
After I was done I know I could have made both ends that came on cylinder work. Just need to mount in a way that both piviot bolts would be vertical and cylinder would be parallel to tie rod.
I didnt really need heim joint.



And yes I drilled and tapped the Celica box myself.

[jader]

Originally Posted by pbmang

excellent, i just ordered my stuff...as far as drilling and tapping...what size bit and tap did you use? i would assume a 1/4, but what threads for the tap?

and where do you tap the box?

sorry for the noob questions and thanks

Drill hole to 7/16'' and tap with 1/4 NPT tap.
This is were I drilled and tapped.




In the pictures you can see I didnt use the hoses from surplus center, Only because I can make them myself at work. My hoses are about 34'' long so the 36'' long hoses from SC should work fine.

This is the info I followed for drill my steering gear and pump mods.
This is for a toyota IFS gear, But the Celica Gear is the same just smaller.

http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=10579.0

[jader]

Heres the doubled up resivor I built. Very cheep and easy to do. I feel its a must do when you add hydro assist.

[psychosam]

excellent thread, your giving me stupid ideas about doing this to my TINTOP, I LOVE STUPID IDEAS,

what year is that celica steering box? Mid 80's? Also what motor you running in your truck?

[jader]

Originally Posted by psychosam

excellent thread, your giving me stupid ideas about doing this to my TINTOP, I LOVE STUPID IDEAS,

what year is that celica steering box? Mid 80's? Also what motor you running in your truck?

Steering box came off a 1979 Celica. I have 1998 1.6L 16V sidekick motor.

[jader]

I have to update my parts list.
Insted of ordering 4 of these fitting.
http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.as...name=hydraulic
1/4NPTM to 1/4NPTF 90 degree swivel.
Order 3 but then order one of these in place of the 90 degree fitting.
http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.as...name=hydraulic
1/4NPTM to 1/4NPTF 45 degree swivel.

I was looking at mine again and figured that a 45 degree fitting into the side of the gear would make connecting hose alot easer.



You can see in the picture, I used a hose with a crimped on 90 degree fitting attached to hose. The hose from Surplus center has a straight fitting end. So I think a 45 degree fitting threaded into gear in this location will work better.
Sorry about that one guys. I should have caught that one.

[psychosam]

Originally Posted by jader

Steering box came off a 1979 Celica. I have 1998 1.6L 16V sidekick motor.

wow 79 celica, thats gonna be a hard box to find. but i'm sure i can find one, i work for a major import auto wrecker where i live.

[psychosam]

Originally Posted by jader

Steering box came off a 1979 Celica. I have 1998 1.6L 16V sidekick motor.

wow 79 celica, thats gonna be a hard box to find. but i'm sure i can find one, i work for a major import auto wrecker where i live.

[jader]

Originally Posted by psychosam

wow 79 celica, thats gonna be a hard box to find. but i'm sure i can find one, i work for a major import auto wrecker where i live.

You can get the steering box off of 78-81 Celica,Corona,and Cressida.
all are the same.
That should make it easer to find.

[LittleBlackSambo]

great thread, outstanding help. now i can go broke just in time for christmas... my family will understand. thanks alot. now i gotta do my holiday shopping at the goodwill.

psychosam, i got my celica box for $75 us delivered. found it on www.car-part.com car part is a national junkyard registry. they have a huge amount of canadian listings as well.

[MOSDIF589]

Great thread.... I've wanted to do this but didn't have the budget for it right now with "CHRISTmas" and all... I have the same steering you have and was going to install it next week, glad you posted this I'll get the extra parts to do it all... I got a used RRO power steering kit that he had on his 1.3ltr do you know if that will work on my 1.6ltr 16valve ?? What kit are you using for the kick pump to attach to the motor ?? Thanks again for the info... MOSDIF589

[ZuksRule]

Awesone thread. Thanks alot. I have been running the '79 celica box and pump for a couple years now and just this morning i decided wanted to look into hydro assist, i came here and found this. Perfect!

[jader]

Originally Posted by MOSDIF589

Great thread.... I've wanted to do this but didn't have the budget for it right now with "CHRISTmas" and all... I have the same steering you have and was going to install it next week, glad you posted this I'll get the extra parts to do it all... I got a used RRO power steering kit that he had on his 1.3ltr do you know if that will work on my 1.6ltr 16valve ?? What kit are you using for the kick pump to attach to the motor ?? Thanks again for the info... MOSDIF589

You said ''I have the same steering you have'' But then you asked what kit I'm using to mount the ''kick pump'' Is that just a typo??
I'm running toyota pump and gear.

The RRO Toyota power steering pump bracket for the 1.3L motor will not bolt onto the 1.6L 16V motor.
The exhaust manifold on the 1.6L is larger than the 1.3L. The RRO pump bracket mounts very close to the exhaust manifold on the 1.3 motor. Exhaust manifold is in the way on 1.6L

I built my own pump bracket for the 1.6L 16V motor. The bracket is a componation of the stock Celica bracket and some modifing by me.
The pump pulley is from a Toyota tercel and the ideler pully is off some Mazda car. Dont rember witch one.
Tercel pulley does not fit right on Celica pump. I had to drill out center of pulley for pump shaft diameter and file out the key way a little, but it was very easy to do.

Dont know if the pictures show much, but this is the pump bracket I built.




The bracket I build will fit on both the 1.3L and the 1.6L 16V motors. Heres another one I built but on a 1.3L motor.

[catzuk]

Again, the info has been great! Thanks! I've been running the celica box for several years now, but I decided to go to the sagnaw pump from a waggoneer after my toy pump died. Lots of fluid now and no problems of heat. Turns 35's easily except in the roughest terrain crossed up. Looking to go to 37's and want to relieve some stress from the box and other parts. So hydro assist is the way to go for me.

[jader]

Originally Posted by catzuk

Again, the info has been great! Thanks! I've been running the celica box for several years now, but I decided to go to the sagnaw pump from a waggoneer after my toy pump died. Lots of fluid now and no problems of heat. Turns 35's easily except in the roughest terrain crossed up. Looking to go to 37's and want to relieve some stress from the box and other parts. So hydro assist is the way to go for me.

Did you only swap out the pump? Or did you swap both the pump and the steering gear?
Just wondering. I dont think the weak link is the Celica gear, I know the Celica pumps can fail, blow fluid out the front seal and so on, But I've never seen the gear fail. And now with the hydro it should take alot of the work load off the gear.