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desertoy · 10-18-2001, 07:49 PM

I need advise on a new project
I am planning on starting with a 1994 samurai with a fuel injected motor, 5 speed trans, GSR-2 transfer case, stock width curry 9" front and rear axles with detroits and 5.13 gears.
I want to hack most of the body, leave the dash and front half of the frame to support the motor and go tube chassis and put 1/4 eliptic in the rear. I have a set of 35" boggers for it with 10" beadlocks with a 2" back space.
The problems I see are crawl ratio and no power steering. I can install a Toyota IFS power steering box in it but what to do with the crawl ratio. If I had to pick, I would want at least 150:1 crawl ratio. but then again sammy's are pretty light compared to Toyotas. Im at 91:1 right now and it is not low enough.
Should I:
1. find some centered input output divorced transfer case and put it in front of the GRS-2.
2. Get an adaptor to a Toyota transmission and run Toyota trans and dual transfer cases ($425 adaptor to transmission, $400 dual case adaptor. Total $825 adaptors plus probably $300 for trans and I have 2 t-cases. That is $1125 for 104:1 crawl ratio. Put a set of 4.0 gears in one case for $600 that would be $1725 for 183:1.
3. Get a divorced Toyota transfer case adaptor $325 and fabricate a mount $50 and dual case adaptor $400 and 4.0 gears $600.
That would be $1400 for 170:1.
I could sell the GRS-2 case to offset some of the cost for ??
Any suggestions???

poppycock · 10-18-2001, 08:01 PM

you forgot the klune/d300 combo <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> i was planning on doing that until about 10 minutes ago. bobaki might have just talked me into his setup. it's quite a bit cheaper than what i had thought.

bobaki · 10-18-2001, 08:42 PM

ammelk · 10-19-2001, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bobaki:
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heh, bobaki, <IMG SRC="smilies/question.gif" border="0">
Whats this set up MrCock is speaking of?
fill me in man.. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
Thanks,

dumb · 10-19-2001, 12:50 PM

Desertoy,
A cheap but rare solution is to find a LJ80 t-case to put in front of your stock t-case. They are hard to find but would give you what you want (150:1 and centered). Either that or just swap the whole kit and kaboodle for a toy set up.

poppyseed,
There is a reason that the ATLAS generation of t-cases were built off the d-300 platform. I hope it's as strong!

Dave
(previously known as shodawg

bobaki · 10-19-2001, 06:08 PM

best check (Zuki motor/toy trans) <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce2.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce2.gif" border="0">

jschell · 10-19-2001, 06:47 PM

I heard that the Klune-v in front of a grsII is silly low. if you can afford it, git some

fatkid · 10-19-2001, 09:31 PM

You didn't have any questions when we had dinner at the Voodoo Lounge. <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

10-18-2001, 07:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
desertoy Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 292 Location: Apple Valley Ca Posts: 4,511	One more question I need advise on a new project I am planning on starting with a 1994 samurai with a fuel injected motor, 5 speed trans, GSR-2 transfer case, stock width curry 9" front and rear axles with detroits and 5.13 gears. I want to hack most of the body, leave the dash and front half of the frame to support the motor and go tube chassis and put 1/4 eliptic in the rear. I have a set of 35" boggers for it with 10" beadlocks with a 2" back space. The problems I see are crawl ratio and no power steering. I can install a Toyota IFS power steering box in it but what to do with the crawl ratio. If I had to pick, I would want at least 150:1 crawl ratio. but then again sammy's are pretty light compared to Toyotas. Im at 91:1 right now and it is not low enough. Should I: 1. find some centered input output divorced transfer case and put it in front of the GRS-2. 2. Get an adaptor to a Toyota transmission and run Toyota trans and dual transfer cases ($425 adaptor to transmission, $400 dual case adaptor. Total $825 adaptors plus probably $300 for trans and I have 2 t-cases. That is $1125 for 104:1 crawl ratio. Put a set of 4.0 gears in one case for $600 that would be $1725 for 183:1. 3. Get a divorced Toyota transfer case adaptor $325 and fabricate a mount $50 and dual case adaptor $400 and 4.0 gears $600. That would be $1400 for 170:1. I could sell the GRS-2 case to offset some of the cost for ?? Any suggestions??? __________________ John James Team Marlin Crawler X-Chassis #12 6 time KOH finisher 2008/2009 W.E. Rock West Coast Series Champion 2008 Pro Rock Champion Just "HAMMER" it!! My Buildup /forum/general-4x4-discussion/298203-desertoy-mustard-dog-build-pair-x-chassis.html

10-19-2001, 12:50 PM	#5 (permalink)
dumb Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Member # 5918 Location: Delta.BC.Canada Posts: 458	Desertoy, A cheap but rare solution is to find a LJ80 t-case to put in front of your stock t-case. They are hard to find but would give you what you want (150:1 and centered). Either that or just swap the whole kit and kaboodle for a toy set up. poppyseed, There is a reason that the ATLAS generation of t-cases were built off the d-300 platform. I hope it's as strong! Dave (previously known as shodawg __________________ Dave: "This wheeling thing is starting to become a problem" -- (updated)-> EX My Wife... : D

10-19-2001, 06:47 PM	#7 (permalink)
jschell Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Member # 4709 Location: Lemoore, CA Posts: 94	I heard that the Klune-v in front of a grsII is silly low. if you can afford it, git some __________________ '85 Toy, crawler locked front and rear, on-board shower, on board air. '88 zuk, spoa, 6:1. grocery go getter.

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fatkid Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Member # 4862 Location: Apple Valley, Ca Posts: 5,101	You didn't have any questions when we had dinner at the Voodoo Lounge. <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> __________________ [url]http://www.myspace.com/jerrywsparks[/url]

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10-18-2001, 08:01 PM	#2 (permalink)
poppycock Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Member # 3621 Location: rohnert park, ca Posts: 1,809	you forgot the klune/d300 combo <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> i was planning on doing that until about 10 minutes ago. bobaki might have just talked me into his setup. it's quite a bit cheaper than what i had thought.

10-18-2001, 08:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
bobaki Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Member # 4279 Location: Homestead Valley / Mill Valley,CA Posts: 1,154	<IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

10-19-2001, 06:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
bobaki Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Member # 4279 Location: Homestead Valley / Mill Valley,CA Posts: 1,154	best check (Zuki motor/toy trans) <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce2.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce2.gif" border="0">