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TJpwr · 10-20-2001, 11:53 AM

I picked up an 87 Sammi that needs a motor for $240. Hole in the block. Did I pay too much? The body is very clean and so is the title. So what to do about the engine? Used? Rebuilt? From where? This is the plan...get it running and then sringover with stock wrangler springs. Hack the body to fit 35's Gears (ratio for 35's?) And weld the rear and lockright up front... What do you think?

bobaki · 10-20-2001, 12:22 PM

if you feel you paid too much I'll buy it <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> I think your jes funnin us <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

M.Martian · 10-20-2001, 12:33 PM

Look into throwing a 1.6 into there. If you can find one, you will be much happier with the power.

If you plan on running 35's, you will want to look into running Toyota axles. Especially if you are locking both front and rear you will start busting stuff.

On a side note about the YJ springs. If possible try and get 5 leaf packs for both the front and the rear. The 4 leaf packs in the rear are very soft and axle wrap will be a problem (especially spring over).

CragRat · 10-20-2001, 12:50 PM

Look into getting one of those "take-uot" motors from Japan. Should be a local guy selling them.

bobaki · 10-21-2001, 10:43 AM

a take out 1.6 you won't regret going 1.6 <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

zuk88 · 10-21-2001, 11:11 AM

seems to me a lot of Jeepers and Toy drivers are buyin' Zuks......and I thought we zukers only wheeled the web???? <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0">

TJpwr · 10-22-2001, 07:18 PM

Here is a pic of the little beauty...

So now I'm thinking I should just buy a rolled Toy and take all the running gear. Would be way stronger and I should just do it right first...

TNToy · 10-24-2001, 02:25 PM

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Originally posted by TJpwr:
So now I'm thinking I should just buy a rolled Toy and take all the running gear. Would be way stronger and I should just do it right first...

There you go! Run the whole toy drivetrain, using 4.7:1 Tcase gears and 5.29s, you'll be at 98:1, and it will most likely TRUCK down the highway, as well.

Go find a wrecked 85 Toyota. You want something before 86 (after 85, all US-market P/Us and 4Runners got IFS) and you want the 84 or 85 because they have EFI - which is good for "inverted wheeling" and an extra 20 HP.

The toy engine would make 120-130HP, and 140-150 in the torque department. If you extend your wheelbase a little (AFAIK, the rear driveshaft would be too short otherwise) you can go with a double case setup, netting you either 108:1 or 228:1 (with one 4.7 gearset) with 5.29s.

Plus the Toy engines run at least as long as Sammy engines do, with 2-300K miles being not uncommom.

UZI 9mm · 10-24-2001, 02:31 PM

a little tip i stole from masteryota-don't forget to take out the original engine first,before putting the new one in.oh wait.that's just if you replace pinion bearings.never mind.... <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

bobaki · 10-24-2001, 02:52 PM

or greese it good and it 'll slide right in <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

M.Martian · 10-24-2001, 04:58 PM

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Originally posted by MasterYota:
...and you want the 84 or 85 because they have EFI

Unless I'm mistaken, 84's did not have EFI as an option. Also not all 85's have EFI. I've seen some without it.

TSE · 10-24-2001, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by M. Martian:
Unless I'm mistaken, 84's did not have EFI as an option. Also not all 85's have EFI. I've seen some without it.

yeah... what he said <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce2.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce2.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce2.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce2.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/bounce.gif" border="0">

zuk88 · 10-24-2001, 05:21 PM

I just want a front axle!! <IMG SRC="smilies/crybaby2.gif" border="0">

killingthemonkey · 10-25-2001, 06:06 AM

Actually, I'm looking to put a Vortec V6 into mine. there is a junkyard here in town that sells engines for $150.00. Of course, I'm gonna have to rebuild it. There is a company that sells the conversion kit to fit these engines. I'll post the URL as soon as I get it from my buddy.

Give you $300 for it.

TJpwr · 10-25-2001, 03:11 PM

I've heard of two places in the Fremont area (I think) that sell motors. Atalco???? and Shingwa??? I'm retarded and did not write them down but I think that's right. Anyone know for sure??? I was told the first one sold longblocks for $500. Sounds good unless I can get a Yoter for less or close. I would like to do the Toy swap but I think it will be too much $$$.

86Project · 10-27-2001, 10:44 PM

Both 84's and 85's had efi as an option, they are sometime's hard to find 84's harder than the 85's though. By the way what do you guys think of the Grand Viagra? My wife really likes them and I'm thinking of getting her one?

10-20-2001, 11:53 AM	#1 (permalink)
TJpwr Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Member # 3432 Location: Los Gatos, CA USA Posts: 709	I got a Samurai... I picked up an 87 Sammi that needs a motor for $240. Hole in the block. Did I pay too much? The body is very clean and so is the title. So what to do about the engine? Used? Rebuilt? From where? This is the plan...get it running and then sringover with stock wrangler springs. Hack the body to fit 35's Gears (ratio for 35's?) And weld the rear and lockright up front... What do you think? __________________ "How's the view from sugar heaven bitch?!" Quote from where?

10-20-2001, 12:33 PM	#3 (permalink)
M.Martian Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Member # 3945 Location: Livermore, CA Posts: 1,520	Look into throwing a 1.6 into there. If you can find one, you will be much happier with the power. If you plan on running 35's, you will want to look into running Toyota axles. Especially if you are locking both front and rear you will start busting stuff. On a side note about the YJ springs. If possible try and get 5 leaf packs for both the front and the rear. The 4 leaf packs in the rear are very soft and axle wrap will be a problem (especially spring over). __________________ Mark

10-20-2001, 12:50 PM	#4 (permalink)
CragRat *Glitterbomber* Join Date: Aug 2001 Member # 6483 Location: Simi Valley, Ca. Posts: 889	Look into getting one of those "take-uot" motors from Japan. Should be a local guy selling them. __________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- " Put on your seatbelt .... I want to try something " AxleSnapper Bulletin Board AxleSnapper Website

10-21-2001, 11:11 AM	#6 (permalink)
zuk88 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Member # 3785 Location: Windsor, CA Posts: 838	seems to me a lot of Jeepers and Toy drivers are buyin' Zuks......and I thought we zukers only wheeled the web???? <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0"> __________________ [B]'88 ZUK[/B] Toy axles,4.30 r&p, spool rear, EZ front,4.16 t-case, 2" YJs, Sky Mfg hy-steer, 33" thorns, and fuzzy seat covers.

10-22-2001, 07:18 PM	#7 (permalink)
TJpwr Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Member # 3432 Location: Los Gatos, CA USA Posts: 709	Here is a pic of the little beauty... So now I'm thinking I should just buy a rolled Toy and take all the running gear. Would be way stronger and I should just do it right first... __________________ "How's the view from sugar heaven bitch?!" Quote from where?

10-20-2001, 12:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
bobaki Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Member # 4279 Location: Homestead Valley / Mill Valley,CA Posts: 1,154	if you feel you paid too much I'll buy it <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> I think your jes funnin us <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

10-21-2001, 10:43 AM	#5 (permalink)
bobaki Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Member # 4279 Location: Homestead Valley / Mill Valley,CA Posts: 1,154	a take out 1.6 you won't regret going 1.6 <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

10-24-2001, 02:31 PM	#9 (permalink)
UZI 9mm Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Member # 5832 Posts: 3,833	a little tip i stole from masteryota-don't forget to take out the original engine first,before putting the new one in.oh wait.that's just if you replace pinion bearings.never mind.... <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

10-24-2001, 02:52 PM	#10 (permalink)
bobaki Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Member # 4279 Location: Homestead Valley / Mill Valley,CA Posts: 1,154	or greese it good and it 'll slide right in <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

10-24-2001, 05:21 PM	#13 (permalink)
zuk88 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Member # 3785 Location: Windsor, CA Posts: 838	I just want a front axle!! <IMG SRC="smilies/crybaby2.gif" border="0"> __________________ [B]'88 ZUK[/B] Toy axles,4.30 r&p, spool rear, EZ front,4.16 t-case, 2" YJs, Sky Mfg hy-steer, 33" thorns, and fuzzy seat covers.

10-25-2001, 06:06 AM	#14 (permalink)
killingthemonkey Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Member # 6808 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 1,492	Actually, I'm looking to put a Vortec V6 into mine. there is a junkyard here in town that sells engines for $150.00. Of course, I'm gonna have to rebuild it. There is a company that sells the conversion kit to fit these engines. I'll post the URL as soon as I get it from my buddy. Give you $300 for it. __________________ Doug ----------------------------------------------- I don't think the Jihadists are correct when they call America "The Great Satan", but I think we are capable of being a very good Satan. ----------------------------------------------- For a man to love his country his country ought to be lovely. And Self-esteem begins with the pride of independence, of earning one's way, of being a citizen who can support his family and doesn't need charity or welfare and doesn't look for "entitlements"; without that you cannot have a republic - Jerry Pournelle ------------------------------------------------ After the uprising of the 17th June The Secretary of the Writers Union Had leaflets distributed in the Stalinallee Stating that the people Had forfeited the confidence of the government And could win it back only By redoubled efforts. Would it not be easier In that case for the government To dissolve the people And elect another? - "The Solution" by Bertolt Brecht ------------------------------------------------- 1991 Suzuki Samurai Stock height Stock t-case No lockers BROKE -----------------------------------------------

10-25-2001, 03:11 PM	#15 (permalink)
TJpwr Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Member # 3432 Location: Los Gatos, CA USA Posts: 709	I've heard of two places in the Fremont area (I think) that sell motors. Atalco???? and Shingwa??? I'm retarded and did not write them down but I think that's right. Anyone know for sure??? I was told the first one sold longblocks for $500. Sounds good unless I can get a Yoter for less or close. I would like to do the Toy swap but I think it will be too much $$$. __________________ "How's the view from sugar heaven bitch?!" Quote from where?

10-27-2001, 10:44 PM	#16 (permalink)
86Project Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Member # 6294 Location: Flat Sunny Florida Now Posts: 113	Both 84's and 85's had efi as an option, they are sometime's hard to find 84's harder than the 85's though. By the way what do you guys think of the Grand Viagra? My wife really likes them and I'm thinking of getting her one? __________________ 02 Saleen Vert - Lots of shit done 92 4Runner, BJ's, LC springs, 285's, Man Hubs, Tons Planned

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