Sell my YJ & build a Sami?? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

YJ4RoX · 10-22-2001, 12:46 PM

Hey Zuki guys? I was wondering what you guys thought of a Jeep guy turning into a Zuki guy? I have been pondering selling the Heep and buying a truck and using the left over money to build a zuki. My buddy has 4 and I can get one for $1500, it runs great and is practically rust free. I think its an 89, with fairly low mileage. I could get a Ram 1500 and tow the sami with it. It would be a total trail rig. So how much cash would I have to throw into one to get it ready for the hard trails? Here is what i was thinking:
SOA with YJ springs, (i have a spare set)
Lots of sawzall work and some 33x12.5 TSL's
D44's, 5.38's, lock rites, and a 4:1 Tcase?
I would keep my winch and maybe even my 33's off my YJ. Any thoughts or opinions?

Rudezuk · 10-22-2001, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by YJ4Rox:
Hey Zuki guys? I was wondering what you guys thought of a Jeep guy turning into a Zuki guy? I have been pondering selling the Heep and buying a truck and using the left over money to build a zuki. My buddy has 4 and I can get one for $1500, it runs great and is practically rust free. I think its an 89, with fairly low mileage. I could get a Ram 1500 and tow the sami with it. It would be a total trail rig. So how much cash would I have to throw into one to get it ready for the hard trails? Here is what i was thinking:
SOA with YJ springs, (i have a spare set)
Lots of sawzall work and some 33x12.5 TSL's
D44's, 5.38's, lock rites, and a 4:1 Tcase?
I would keep my winch and maybe even my 33's off my YJ. Any thoughts or opinions?

DO IT!!!!
Sawzall with some 37's!!! Youll have Dana44's!!!

squirrelman83 · 10-22-2001, 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by YJ4Rox:

SOA with YJ springs, (i have a spare set)
Lots of sawzall work and some 33x12.5 TSL's

I wouldn't think you would need to sawzall much to run 33's. I have a SPOA with stock Sammy springs and I am running 33x12.50's. The only place I've noticed a little rubbing is in the back of my front fenders. But I agree with RudeZuk on this one, sawzall and run some 35's or 37's. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> ~Steve

bobaki · 10-22-2001, 01:37 PM

they are learning <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

zuk88 · 10-22-2001, 04:49 PM

Another Jeeper has seen the light!!!!

Its a jeep thing........What I don't understand is why they spend so much money to keep up with Zuks and Toys <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

M.Martian · 10-22-2001, 06:59 PM

You shouldn't need to pull out the sawzall much at all (if you even need to). I ended up with about 9 inches of lift with the YJ's and spring over. I'm running 31x10.5 TSL's and do not rub at all. Depending how far forward you move the front axle will say whether or not you will rub the back of the wheelwell.

Rudezuk · 10-22-2001, 07:11 PM

You wont have any problems at all with stock YJ's on 33's!!! No rubbage at all!!!!
Here is mine with stock Yj's, 33's and 15x8 rims..
<IMG width=576 height=432 SRC="http://www.pirate4x4.com/ubb/uploads/soubbowl2b.jpg">

YJ4RoX · 10-23-2001, 07:24 AM

Hell yeah guys, This is SOOO tempting, I just hav to sell the idea to the g/f, she has bought tons of parts for the Heep and will probably get pissed when i sell it <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"> Oh well!

There may be a new member to the Zuki board in a couple of months <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">: <IMG SRC="smilies/beer.gif" border="0">

Thanks for the pics, what is so funny is that everyone on the other Jeep boards I visit cannot justify keeping the YJ <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

bobaki · 10-23-2001, 03:28 PM

nice befor pic Shanesan <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

CragRat · 10-24-2001, 06:00 AM

YJ4Rox,
Your going to have to change your name ... <IMG SRC="smilies/clown.gif" border="0">

bobaki · 10-24-2001, 06:03 AM

what's in a name <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

RepoMan · 10-24-2001, 05:58 PM

as a current '89 yj owner i say don't do it as the yj is the best w/ a slapped in 302efi, c4 auto and a rear dana 44....the problem w/ the sammys is they dont get stuck like a jeep!

anyone want to trade a sammy for the above yj...

killingthemonkey · 10-25-2001, 05:58 AM

Yes! Turn away from the dark side. If you but put away your jeepish trappings, you will be welcomed into the light.

YJ, I am your father.

Dude, Sammis rock!

YJ4RoX · 10-25-2001, 07:51 AM

Well i am 85% sure i am going to do this. Keep looking at the after market and WOW. I think i may just keep the heep drop in a v8 tak the lift off and tow the sammi with it. Any of you guys towed a Zuki with a heep before? Trailer or Flat? How do they do?

M.Martian · 10-25-2001, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by YJ4Rox:
Any of you guys towed a Zuki with a heep before? Trailer or Flat? How do they do?

I don't have a Jeep, but I do tow mine with a V6 Tacoma on a car dolly.

It actually does pretty well. I can easily go 65mph on the highway. Up hills I do have to drop it down a gear.

Before when I was running a 4 leaf YJ pack in the back I would get fishtailing from the zuk at around 60-65 a lot. At 55mph it was fine. Now with the 5 leaf pack I don't get fishtailing at all.

rockzooki · 04-10-2002, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by YJ4RoX
Hey Zuki guys? I was wondering what you guys thought of a Jeep guy turning into a Zuki guy? I have been pondering selling the Heep and buying a truck and using the left over money to build a zuki. My buddy has 4 and I can get one for $1500, it runs great and is practically rust free. I think its an 89, with fairly low mileage. I could get a Ram 1500 and tow the sami with it. It would be a total trail rig. So how much cash would I have to throw into one to get it ready for the hard trails? Here is what i was thinking:
SOA with YJ springs, (i have a spare set)
Lots of sawzall work and some 33x12.5 TSL's
D44's, 5.38's, lock rites, and a 4:1 Tcase?
I would keep my winch and maybe even my 33's off my YJ. Any thoughts or opinions?

ive spent $ 2100 total and you see what i can do! go fur it!

Dychen · 04-10-2002, 01:51 PM

i traded a mitsubishi pickup truck for mine, its great. its also got quite a bit of problems, so i can only imagine what you can do with one of these if you have the money

B.A.R.K · 04-11-2002, 03:40 PM

i cant believe you are even saying this, i use to have a sammy, with 3 inch trailmasters soa, 5.13's; 35 bogs and i had nothing but trouble with that thing, one of the smartest things i ever did was sell my zuk to a hunting club, and buy my YJ, this is my first time on the zuk board and i am very dissapointed to see a trader in our mist

i see you guys are talking about using yj parts, you will never here of a so called "heep" running sammy parts, i hope this was enough to change your mind about ditching the YJ

Alfred · 04-11-2002, 05:11 PM

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Originally posted by YJ4RoX
Any of you guys towed a Zuki with a heep before? Trailer or Flat? How do they do?

be smart and do the right thing

alfred

ps: i also towed my friend's TJ this weekend ... we managed to get up to 55mph and passing cars ... very cool

CSR · 04-11-2002, 05:53 PM

Keep the YJ dude! We have too many Jeepers coming over to our side already!

High5 · 04-11-2002, 07:24 PM

lengthen it to 97 to 100" wheelbase, go with 5.89's in the d44's and get a 6to1 sumo case. get it from the begining because you'll want to move up to 36's, 37's, or even 38's (i think a set of 38x12.sx's on a set of waggy 44's would be sweet!) and your choice of gearing will not be low enough. a buddy of mine is runnin waggy d44's with 5.38's and a 4to1 and it was not near low enough with 36 sx's. he sold the 4to1 and is waiting on his sumo 6 to 1 case. i say all this to say do itr right the firsat time. you' save $$$ in the longrun if you do. just my op.

jp008 · 04-11-2002, 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by CragRat
YJ4Rox,
Your going to have to change your name ... <IMG SRC="smilies/clown.gif" border="0">

Here's one for him...........

SJ4Rox

gotzook · 04-12-2002, 04:46 AM

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Any of you guys towed a Zuki with a heep before? Trailer or Flat? How do they do?

my friend flat towed me with his cj locked on36sxs to a trail head about an hr and a half away. it was very scary. at least the jeep is a little longer wheelbase than the zuk... but with em both being locked my zuk would wanna push his jeep sideways on corners, and the lockin unlockin of his locker in the rear would make lane changing real interesting. the 258 straight six, nv4500, d300, and 456s had plenty of power and the d44s had plenty of stopping power. it was just the whole handling problem that made it a white knuckle ride.

Quote:

Hey Zuki guys? I was wondering what you guys thought of a Jeep guy turning into a Zuki guy?

my friends been wheelin jeeps since the early 70s. lately he has 3 zuks and hasn't wheeled any of his jeeps in over a year. i have been seeing more and more jeepers building zuks. funny how the same people use to try to get me to sell my zuk and buy a jeep 3 years ago!

Lziffle73 · 04-12-2002, 09:59 AM

I got a friend in my group that has a TJ that he uses to pull his zuk. He puts the zuk on a tow dolly and it seems to pull ok doing 70mph on the highway. It's not the best scenario(sp?) but it'll work.

Wes.

YJ4RoX · 04-12-2002, 11:15 AM

Here's the low down guys. I am putting the D44's with 5.38's under the YJ with a SOA and 36's. I am going to wheel it all summer and start building zuki next fall.

AS i see it now, it will have D44's with 5.38's, 35-37" tires, either a 6:1 or possibly toy boxes. Most likley a 1.6L and an extended wheelbase. Flat bed style and lots of tube work. That way on closer trips in the state i can drive the jeep and for the more difficult trails and longer trips I can tow the zuki. I have been riding with my buddy in his zuki a lot, I AM DEFINATELY HOOKED. We flopped it over on a water fall a couple of weeks ago, it was a blast. He is getting ready to extend his wheelbase and move up to 35's. His 6:1 should be here in a week or two.

10-22-2001, 12:46 PM	#1 (permalink)
YJ4RoX Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Member # 1930 Location: Leon, WV Posts: 3,260	Sell my YJ & build a Sami?? Hey Zuki guys? I was wondering what you guys thought of a Jeep guy turning into a Zuki guy? I have been pondering selling the Heep and buying a truck and using the left over money to build a zuki. My buddy has 4 and I can get one for $1500, it runs great and is practically rust free. I think its an 89, with fairly low mileage. I could get a Ram 1500 and tow the sami with it. It would be a total trail rig. So how much cash would I have to throw into one to get it ready for the hard trails? Here is what i was thinking: SOA with YJ springs, (i have a spare set) Lots of sawzall work and some 33x12.5 TSL's D44's, 5.38's, lock rites, and a 4:1 Tcase? I would keep my winch and maybe even my 33's off my YJ. Any thoughts or opinions?

10-22-2001, 04:49 PM	#5 (permalink)
zuk88 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Member # 3785 Location: Windsor, CA Posts: 838	Another Jeeper has seen the light!!!! Its a jeep thing........What I don't understand is why they spend so much money to keep up with Zuks and Toys <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> __________________ [B]'88 ZUK[/B] Toy axles,4.30 r&p, spool rear, EZ front,4.16 t-case, 2" YJs, Sky Mfg hy-steer, 33" thorns, and fuzzy seat covers.

10-22-2001, 06:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
M.Martian Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Member # 3945 Location: Livermore, CA Posts: 1,520	You shouldn't need to pull out the sawzall much at all (if you even need to). I ended up with about 9 inches of lift with the YJ's and spring over. I'm running 31x10.5 TSL's and do not rub at all. Depending how far forward you move the front axle will say whether or not you will rub the back of the wheelwell. __________________ Mark

10-22-2001, 07:11 PM	#7 (permalink)
Rudezuk Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Member # 4500 Location: Soon to be VA Posts: 6,454	You wont have any problems at all with stock YJ's on 33's!!! No rubbage at all!!!! Here is mine with stock Yj's, 33's and 15x8 rims.. <IMG width=576 height=432 SRC="http://www.pirate4x4.com/ubb/uploads/soubbowl2b.jpg"> __________________ Shane [COLOR="DarkRed"][FONT="Comic Sans MS"][URL="www.hbrk4x4.com"]HBRK4x4.com[/URL][/FONT][/COLOR] [URL="http://www.yyracing.com/"]Y&Y Racing, LLC[/URL] [URL="http://www.we-rock.cc/team_list.php?wts=show&wvalue=181"]We-Rock #208[/URL] "Team HBRK" thanks our sponsors. Driver: Shane Yost Spotter: Todd Young

10-24-2001, 06:00 AM	#10 (permalink)
CragRat *Glitterbomber* Join Date: Aug 2001 Member # 6483 Location: Simi Valley, Ca. Posts: 889	YJ4Rox, Your going to have to change your name ... <IMG SRC="smilies/clown.gif" border="0"> __________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- " Put on your seatbelt .... I want to try something " AxleSnapper Bulletin Board AxleSnapper Website

10-22-2001, 01:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
bobaki Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Member # 4279 Location: Homestead Valley / Mill Valley,CA Posts: 1,154	they are learning <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

10-23-2001, 07:24 AM	#8 (permalink)
YJ4RoX Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Member # 1930 Location: Leon, WV Posts: 3,260	Hell yeah guys, This is SOOO tempting, I just hav to sell the idea to the g/f, she has bought tons of parts for the Heep and will probably get pissed when i sell it <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"> Oh well! There may be a new member to the Zuki board in a couple of months <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">: <IMG SRC="smilies/beer.gif" border="0"> Thanks for the pics, what is so funny is that everyone on the other Jeep boards I visit cannot justify keeping the YJ <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

10-23-2001, 03:28 PM	#9 (permalink)
bobaki Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Member # 4279 Location: Homestead Valley / Mill Valley,CA Posts: 1,154	nice befor pic Shanesan <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

10-24-2001, 06:03 AM	#11 (permalink)
bobaki Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Member # 4279 Location: Homestead Valley / Mill Valley,CA Posts: 1,154	what's in a name <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

10-24-2001, 05:58 PM	#12 (permalink)
RepoMan Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Member # 7730 Location: il Posts: 175	as a current '89 yj owner i say don't do it as the yj is the best w/ a slapped in 302efi, c4 auto and a rear dana 44....the problem w/ the sammys is they dont get stuck like a jeep! anyone want to trade a sammy for the above yj...

10-25-2001, 05:58 AM	#13 (permalink)
killingthemonkey Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Member # 6808 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 1,492	Yes! Turn away from the dark side. If you but put away your jeepish trappings, you will be welcomed into the light. YJ, I am your father. Dude, Sammis rock! __________________ Doug ----------------------------------------------- I don't think the Jihadists are correct when they call America "The Great Satan", but I think we are capable of being a very good Satan. ----------------------------------------------- For a man to love his country his country ought to be lovely. And Self-esteem begins with the pride of independence, of earning one's way, of being a citizen who can support his family and doesn't need charity or welfare and doesn't look for "entitlements"; without that you cannot have a republic - Jerry Pournelle ------------------------------------------------ After the uprising of the 17th June The Secretary of the Writers Union Had leaflets distributed in the Stalinallee Stating that the people Had forfeited the confidence of the government And could win it back only By redoubled efforts. Would it not be easier In that case for the government To dissolve the people And elect another? - "The Solution" by Bertolt Brecht ------------------------------------------------- 1991 Suzuki Samurai Stock height Stock t-case No lockers BROKE -----------------------------------------------

10-25-2001, 07:51 AM	#14 (permalink)
YJ4RoX Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Member # 1930 Location: Leon, WV Posts: 3,260	Well i am 85% sure i am going to do this. Keep looking at the after market and WOW. I think i may just keep the heep drop in a v8 tak the lift off and tow the sammi with it. Any of you guys towed a Zuki with a heep before? Trailer or Flat? How do they do?

04-10-2002, 01:51 PM	#17 (permalink)
Dychen Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8827 Location: Placerville, CA Posts: 622	i traded a mitsubishi pickup truck for mine, its great. its also got quite a bit of problems, so i can only imagine what you can do with one of these if you have the money __________________ AKA Sponge Bob - 85 4runner ECV 7-11 Pair-0-Dice

04-11-2002, 03:40 PM	#18 (permalink)
B.A.R.K Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8540 Location: Lafayette, LA Posts: 3,322	i cant believe you are even saying this, i use to have a sammy, with 3 inch trailmasters soa, 5.13's; 35 bogs and i had nothing but trouble with that thing, one of the smartest things i ever did was sell my zuk to a hunting club, and buy my YJ, this is my first time on the zuk board and i am very dissapointed to see a trader in our mist i see you guys are talking about using yj parts, you will never here of a so called "heep" running sammy parts, i hope this was enough to change your mind about ditching the YJ

04-11-2002, 05:53 PM	#20 (permalink)
CSR ___________ Join Date: Feb 2001 Member # 3495 Location: in the trailerhood Posts: 2,419	Keep the YJ dude! We have too many Jeepers coming over to our side already! __________________ '85 4runner, locked, lifted, TSL's, 4.7:1 twin stick tcase...

04-11-2002, 07:24 PM	#21 (permalink)
High5 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Member # 1700 Location: TEXAS Posts: 4,308	lengthen it to 97 to 100" wheelbase, go with 5.89's in the d44's and get a 6to1 sumo case. get it from the begining because you'll want to move up to 36's, 37's, or even 38's (i think a set of 38x12.sx's on a set of waggy 44's would be sweet!) and your choice of gearing will not be low enough. a buddy of mine is runnin waggy d44's with 5.38's and a 4to1 and it was not near low enough with 36 sx's. he sold the 4to1 and is waiting on his sumo 6 to 1 case. i say all this to say do itr right the firsat time. you' save $$$ in the longrun if you do. just my op. __________________ High5 IT'S 1TON O' FUN!

04-12-2002, 09:59 AM	#24 (permalink)
Lziffle73 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Member # 6950 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 80	I got a friend in my group that has a TJ that he uses to pull his zuk. He puts the zuk on a tow dolly and it seems to pull ok doing 70mph on the highway. It's not the best scenario(sp?) but it'll work. Wes.

04-12-2002, 11:15 AM	#25 (permalink)
YJ4RoX Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Member # 1930 Location: Leon, WV Posts: 3,260	Here's the low down guys. I am putting the D44's with 5.38's under the YJ with a SOA and 36's. I am going to wheel it all summer and start building zuki next fall. AS i see it now, it will have D44's with 5.38's, 35-37" tires, either a 6:1 or possibly toy boxes. Most likley a 1.6L and an extended wheelbase. Flat bed style and lots of tube work. That way on closer trips in the state i can drive the jeep and for the more difficult trails and longer trips I can tow the zuki. I have been riding with my buddy in his zuki a lot, I AM DEFINATELY HOOKED. We flopped it over on a water fall a couple of weeks ago, it was a blast. He is getting ready to extend his wheelbase and move up to 35's. His 6:1 should be here in a week or two.

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