Shift Lever Lock Collar - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

Okiyota · 10-01-2006, 01:25 PM

How in the heck do you get that thing to turn?? I pulled my shift lever out of my T-case so i could put it back under my Sami, i can get the collar pressed down against the spring, but cannot get it to spin to lock into place. I have tried two screwdrivers, needle nose pliers (how i got it out, with the t-case on my work bench), lock ring pliers, and using my fingers, I cannot get it to spin!! Is there some tool or trick that you guys use to make the collar spin?

cajunsuzukispider · 10-01-2006, 03:00 PM

yeah, it's a bitch. I just learned to lay under the truck with feet towards the rear axle, and reach up with 2 fingers of each hand around the thing and pull downward and turn. just make sure you turn the right way, not the wrong way. you can get close by reaching down through the top, but it's always been easier to do it from underneath by hand.
good luck.
jd

skyhiranger · 10-01-2006, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cajunsuzukispider

yeah, it's a bitch. I just learned to lay under the truck with feet towards the rear axle, and reach up with 2 fingers of each hand around the thing and pull downward and turn. just make sure you turn the right way, not the wrong way. you can get close by reaching down through the top, but it's always been easier to do it from underneath by hand.
good luck.
jd

I was just going to suggest the same thing. I started out doing the old 2 screwdriver trick, the first few times. Then I read about doing from underneath like css suggested, made it a lot easier and faster to do.

Okiyota · 10-02-2006, 12:44 PM

Yeah i have tried it by laying underneath, i can reach it fine, but cannot get it too turn. I swear i'm not a little pansie either, i cannot get it to budge.

How bad would it be to run it without the spring underneath? I tried to set it without the spring and it went relatively easy, so i know i'm spinning the right way, just cant get it to go with the spring in there??

skyhiranger · 10-02-2006, 01:19 PM

I would not advise running without the spring.
You may be pushing too hard on it, when trying to put it in. IIRC, just push it down "firm" not hard, then try and twist it into place. Pushing too hard on it can bind it up. Once you get the feel down for it, it will be easier next time.

Oh, and make sure you are pushing down evenly on both sides. If you push down one side more than the other, that will make it bind too.

Okiyota · 10-02-2006, 02:25 PM

What is the spring for? When i put the collar on without it, i was not able to pull the shifter out without removing the collar first. I'm not going to run it without the spring, just wondering what it does?

cajunsuzukispider · 10-03-2006, 08:44 AM

it's too hold everything tight so it don't rattle. is everything clean with no grit or rust binding it up? hate to hear that you're having problems with it. perhaps the spring flexes INTO the way and binds you up good??

billjohn · 10-03-2006, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Okiyota

Is there some tool or trick that you guys use to make the collar spin?

Got this off ebay a few years ago...

OKIE ZUK · 10-03-2006, 10:01 AM

Bill I thought of building something like that and people said it's easy by hand. At my age I'd like that tool. Seen any more on e-bay or should someone start building some. I know I'd use it. Never crawl under a Sami again to do the sheet thing.

Okiyota · 10-03-2006, 10:05 AM

What tool is that, pictures arent showing up for me?

billjohn · 10-03-2006, 10:24 AM

The tool looks like someone had a good idea and built one for themself. Then realized they could make some money on ebay so they sold a few more. I haven't seen them on ebay for about two years...
So Okie - build some and see how they sell... I'll bet you won't be able to keep them in stock.

I stuck the pix on my personal site, so you can hit them there at:

http://www.billjohn.com/drivetrain/tools.htm

Okiyota · 10-03-2006, 01:05 PM

Yeah i already tried hiiting your personal site from the properties of the pics, said Cannot Find Server.

Gives me that error when i follow your link as well!! Dang it, i really want to see this tool!!

Okiyota · 10-03-2006, 03:01 PM

Nevermind...i changed my Proxy settings at work and now i can see the pics!

That is definitely a tool i need, how much do you want for it

You could just mail it to me, let me use it and mail it back

billjohn · 10-03-2006, 06:12 PM

Talk Okie into making a production run...

Okiyota · 10-04-2006, 06:19 AM

Come on Okie, what do you say, i'll buy the first one!!

skyhiranger · 10-04-2006, 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OKIE ZUK

Never crawl under a Sami again to do the sheet thing.

How ya going to get the ring and boot off? Maybe your hands and arms are small and flexible enough to reach through the hole from the top...mine aren't.

10-01-2006, 01:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
Okiyota Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Member # 64778 Location: Colorado Posts: 871	Shift Lever Lock Collar How in the heck do you get that thing to turn?? I pulled my shift lever out of my T-case so i could put it back under my Sami, i can get the collar pressed down against the spring, but cannot get it to spin to lock into place. I have tried two screwdrivers, needle nose pliers (how i got it out, with the t-case on my work bench), lock ring pliers, and using my fingers, I cannot get it to spin!! Is there some tool or trick that you guys use to make the collar spin?

10-02-2006, 01:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
skyhiranger Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Member # 14033 Location: MO Posts: 489	I would not advise running without the spring. You may be pushing too hard on it, when trying to put it in. IIRC, just push it down "firm" not hard, then try and twist it into place. Pushing too hard on it can bind it up. Once you get the feel down for it, it will be easier next time. Oh, and make sure you are pushing down evenly on both sides. If you push down one side more than the other, that will make it bind too. __________________ 97 Ranger D44 SAS/ARBs/4.56s/35s 87 Samurai "slightly" modified sleeper SPUA/33s/5.12s/KK3/EFI/LRs Last edited by skyhiranger; 10-02-2006 at 01:24 PM.

10-03-2006, 10:01 AM	#9 (permalink)
OKIE ZUK Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Member # 14812 Location: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Posts: 2,756	Bill I thought of building something like that and people said it's easy by hand. At my age I'd like that tool. Seen any more on e-bay or should someone start building some. I know I'd use it. Never crawl under a Sami again to do the sheet thing. __________________ '94 Samurai, EFI, 6.1 t-case, twin sticks, 5.29 locked and shaved Toys, RS9000X's, HS9500i, OBA, Coiled, 36" IROK's, 94" WB, etc, etc.

10-03-2006, 10:24 AM	#11 (permalink)
billjohn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Member # 6668 Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 663	The tool looks like someone had a good idea and built one for themself. Then realized they could make some money on ebay so they sold a few more. I haven't seen them on ebay for about two years... So Okie - build some and see how they sell... I'll bet you won't be able to keep them in stock. I stuck the pix on my personal site, so you can hit them there at: http://www.billjohn.com/drivetrain/tools.htm __________________ Bill Johnston www.izook.com Last edited by billjohn; 10-03-2006 at 10:40 AM.

10-03-2006, 06:12 PM	#14 (permalink)
billjohn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Member # 6668 Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 663	Talk Okie into making a production run... __________________ Bill Johnston www.izook.com

10-01-2006, 03:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
cajunsuzukispider Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Member # 48911 Location: acworth, ga Posts: 1,923	yeah, it's a bitch. I just learned to lay under the truck with feet towards the rear axle, and reach up with 2 fingers of each hand around the thing and pull downward and turn. just make sure you turn the right way, not the wrong way. you can get close by reaching down through the top, but it's always been easier to do it from underneath by hand. good luck. jd

10-02-2006, 12:44 PM	#4 (permalink)
Okiyota Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Member # 64778 Location: Colorado Posts: 871	Yeah i have tried it by laying underneath, i can reach it fine, but cannot get it too turn. I swear i'm not a little pansie either, i cannot get it to budge. How bad would it be to run it without the spring underneath? I tried to set it without the spring and it went relatively easy, so i know i'm spinning the right way, just cant get it to go with the spring in there??

10-02-2006, 02:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
Okiyota Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Member # 64778 Location: Colorado Posts: 871	What is the spring for? When i put the collar on without it, i was not able to pull the shifter out without removing the collar first. I'm not going to run it without the spring, just wondering what it does?

10-03-2006, 08:44 AM	#7 (permalink)
cajunsuzukispider Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Member # 48911 Location: acworth, ga Posts: 1,923	it's too hold everything tight so it don't rattle. is everything clean with no grit or rust binding it up? hate to hear that you're having problems with it. perhaps the spring flexes INTO the way and binds you up good??

10-03-2006, 10:05 AM	#10 (permalink)
Okiyota Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Member # 64778 Location: Colorado Posts: 871	What tool is that, pictures arent showing up for me?

10-03-2006, 01:05 PM	#12 (permalink)
Okiyota Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Member # 64778 Location: Colorado Posts: 871	Yeah i already tried hiiting your personal site from the properties of the pics, said Cannot Find Server. Gives me that error when i follow your link as well!! Dang it, i really want to see this tool!!

10-03-2006, 03:01 PM	#13 (permalink)
Okiyota Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Member # 64778 Location: Colorado Posts: 871	Nevermind...i changed my Proxy settings at work and now i can see the pics! That is definitely a tool i need, how much do you want for it You could just mail it to me, let me use it and mail it back

10-04-2006, 06:19 AM	#15 (permalink)
Okiyota Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Member # 64778 Location: Colorado Posts: 871	Come on Okie, what do you say, i'll buy the first one!!

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