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Bestfreak · 10-28-2006, 01:23 AM

Gents,

As we all know the standard sammy carb is often crappy.

Many people switch to new aftermarket parts like webber and so on.

Probebly more people go to the wrecker and find a fitting carb and run that one.

Personaly I love the 87 Suzuki Swift 1.3 GS constant vacuum carb Also found on some Toyota models.

I just want to know what type of carb you all run on your 1.3 or 1.6 CARBT engine (so not fuel injection)

Kind regards

Auke

Hvy_Chevy · 10-28-2006, 05:20 AM

I run the stock carb and have no problems.

Blue Ridge Runner · 10-28-2006, 05:42 AM

Same here. I have had good luck with a stock carb.

toydoctor · 10-28-2006, 09:36 AM

stock carb here as well,....dont even need the vent tube...i like it how it is

sami86 · 10-28-2006, 11:43 AM

im run my 2 stock carbs

jones · 10-28-2006, 07:17 PM

Do you guys ever go up or down steep hills or get off-camber?

I hate carbs. They suck.

Sooty Zooki · 10-29-2006, 12:00 PM

I run a Nikki carb on my 1.3 zook. Way better performance than standard Aisin. Better than a weber as they don't flood out so easy when driven up steep stuff but same sort of power gain. Probably the best standard engine performance upgrade you can make. I got a header, cam, skimmed and ported head and the carb gave more extra power than the other mods put together.

Hvy_Chevy · 10-29-2006, 12:53 PM

what's a Nikki come on?

crashnzuk · 10-29-2006, 11:44 PM

I too have a stocker with no complaints. On steep up/down there are zero issues. Side hills make it load up a bit but I try to avoid side hilling if at all possible.
Travis..

Sooty Zooki · 10-30-2006, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hvy_Chevy

what's a Nikki come on?

I think the only car a nikki was fitted to as standard was a Mazda RX.
They were mainly sold as aftermarket performance replacements, so you can find them as kits for anything from a VW to a Ford.
Very popular in Europe - do a search on eBay - you usually see a few for sale... Pitty they are no longer made (Weber won that fight, lol!).

Sooty Zooki · 10-30-2006, 12:42 AM

Forgot to say, one of the BIG advantages of the Nikki for fitting to the Suzuki is that it so happens that the position of the bolt holes to mount it line-up perfectly with the standard manifold, so no adapter needed.

DakAttack · 10-30-2006, 03:31 AM

My sammi has 3miles of hoses, Were you able to connect all of the stock hoses to thr Njkki carb? Maybe this is more simple tha I think and all carbs has a basic vacuum port? Please shed light.
Loren

Sooty Zooki · 10-30-2006, 03:35 AM

That's the other good thing about the Nikki - its very simple compared to Aisin. It only needs the vac advance hose from the dizzy, all the ones that come off the manifold simply get blocked off to stop air leak. The coolant pipe that goes into the Aisin is also redundant, so you close off the coolant by bypassing the carb and connecting it back into the engine. This is very similar to Weber install less the adpator - it has manual choke so will need a cable adding. I also modified the standard plennum chamber to fit the carb so I could run a K&N in the standard airbox.

DakAttack · 10-30-2006, 11:26 AM

Does the Nikki carb meet smog legal requirements in California or once installed are you doomed to the eternal green sticker/take your chances with the law?
Loren

Sooty Zooki · 10-30-2006, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DakAttack

Does the Nikki carb meet smog legal requirements in California or once installed are you doomed to the eternal green sticker/take your chances with the law?
Loren

No idea in Cali law so can't help on that - so probably have to take your chances with the law! It has passed on UK MOT certificate (once year road-worthiness test) but think this is more lenient a test. My August test readings were CO @ 0.59% vol (limit <= 3.50) and HC @ 220 (limit <= 1,200) if that helps.

crashnzuk · 10-30-2006, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DakAttack

Does the Nikki carb meet smog legal requirements in California or once installed are you doomed to the eternal green sticker/take your chances with the law?
Loren

Just like a weber, no matter how good it runs, you'd never pass a visual with any experienced smog tech.
Travis..

DakAttack · 10-30-2006, 08:24 PM

Crashnzuk,
unfortunately you are most likely correct....
Loren

Tech Tim · 10-30-2006, 09:07 PM

Here are a couple carb swap links, including the Nikki carb...

Nikki carb swap

Daihatsu carb swap

Pony carb swap

And there are tons 'o site on rebuilding and upgrading the Nikki carb, just Google it.

.

10-28-2006, 01:23 AM	#1 (permalink)
Bestfreak Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Member # 53581 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 39	Best Carb ever... Gents, As we all know the standard sammy carb is often crappy. Many people switch to new aftermarket parts like webber and so on. Probebly more people go to the wrecker and find a fitting carb and run that one. Personaly I love the 87 Suzuki Swift 1.3 GS constant vacuum carb Also found on some Toyota models. I just want to know what type of carb you all run on your 1.3 or 1.6 CARBT engine (so not fuel injection) Kind regards Auke __________________ [B]Suzuki Of Road information [/B][URL="http://www.adservices.nl"][B]ADServices[/B][/URL] [B]Even the Dutch can wheel pretty hard......[/B]

10-28-2006, 05:20 AM	#2 (permalink)
Hvy_Chevy Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Oct 2002 Member # 14094 Location: Maine Posts: 4,465	I run the stock carb and have no problems. __________________ Size does matter. Leave the Zukes to those who really understand.

10-28-2006, 09:36 AM	#4 (permalink)
toydoctor "that guy" Join Date: Jan 2004 Member # 26481 Location: gresham oregon Posts: 657	stock carb here as well,....dont even need the vent tube...i like it how it is __________________ "you like those spinning tires"- joe dirt 87 sas runner

10-28-2006, 11:43 AM	#5 (permalink)
sami86 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Member # 75252 Location: sACRAMENTO,Ca Posts: 457	im run my 2 stock carbs __________________ UTI

10-28-2006, 07:17 PM	#6 (permalink)
jones Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8687 Location: Vancouver Island B.C. Posts: 1,083	Do you guys ever go up or down steep hills or get off-camber? I hate carbs. They suck. __________________ The word "jones" is a slang term meaning to crave, want, or desire; or, to feel withdrawal from an activity of passion. The general slang meaning is often associated with addictive substance habits but can be applied on a more universal scale.

10-28-2006, 05:42 AM	#3 (permalink)
Blue Ridge Runner Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Member # 31905 Location: North Carolina Posts: 170	Same here. I have had good luck with a stock carb.

10-29-2006, 12:00 PM	#7 (permalink)
Sooty Zooki Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Member # 70031 Location: East Yorkshire, England Posts: 133	I run a Nikki carb on my 1.3 zook. Way better performance than standard Aisin. Better than a weber as they don't flood out so easy when driven up steep stuff but same sort of power gain. Probably the best standard engine performance upgrade you can make. I got a header, cam, skimmed and ported head and the carb gave more extra power than the other mods put together. Attached Images

10-29-2006, 12:53 PM	#8 (permalink)
Hvy_Chevy Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Oct 2002 Member # 14094 Location: Maine Posts: 4,465	what's a Nikki come on? __________________ Size does matter. Leave the Zukes to those who really understand.

10-29-2006, 11:44 PM	#9 (permalink)
crashnzuk Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17632 Location: West Sacramento, CA Posts: 5,370	I too have a stocker with no complaints. On steep up/down there are zero issues. Side hills make it load up a bit but I try to avoid side hilling if at all possible. Travis.. __________________ 74 Ramcharger, 360, 4spd, 60/70 on 37s 91.5 Dodge 6BT 5 spd tow rig

10-30-2006, 12:42 AM	#11 (permalink)
Sooty Zooki Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Member # 70031 Location: East Yorkshire, England Posts: 133	Forgot to say, one of the BIG advantages of the Nikki for fitting to the Suzuki is that it so happens that the position of the bolt holes to mount it line-up perfectly with the standard manifold, so no adapter needed.

10-30-2006, 03:31 AM	#12 (permalink)
DakAttack Dodge Ram Newbie Join Date: Jan 2004 Member # 26814 Location: Livermore, CA 94550 Posts: 363	vacuum hoses, Nikki Carb My sammi has 3miles of hoses, Were you able to connect all of the stock hoses to thr Njkki carb? Maybe this is more simple tha I think and all carbs has a basic vacuum port? Please shed light. Loren

10-30-2006, 03:35 AM	#13 (permalink)
Sooty Zooki Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Member # 70031 Location: East Yorkshire, England Posts: 133	That's the other good thing about the Nikki - its very simple compared to Aisin. It only needs the vac advance hose from the dizzy, all the ones that come off the manifold simply get blocked off to stop air leak. The coolant pipe that goes into the Aisin is also redundant, so you close off the coolant by bypassing the carb and connecting it back into the engine. This is very similar to Weber install less the adpator - it has manual choke so will need a cable adding. I also modified the standard plennum chamber to fit the carb so I could run a K&N in the standard airbox.

10-30-2006, 11:26 AM	#14 (permalink)
DakAttack Dodge Ram Newbie Join Date: Jan 2004 Member # 26814 Location: Livermore, CA 94550 Posts: 363	Smog Legal Does the Nikki carb meet smog legal requirements in California or once installed are you doomed to the eternal green sticker/take your chances with the law? Loren

10-30-2006, 08:24 PM	#17 (permalink)
DakAttack Dodge Ram Newbie Join Date: Jan 2004 Member # 26814 Location: Livermore, CA 94550 Posts: 363	Crashnzuk, unfortunately you are most likely correct.... Loren

10-30-2006, 09:07 PM	#18 (permalink)
Tech Tim Super Willie Join Date: Apr 2003 Member # 19067 Location: T90, WA Posts: 4,085	Here are a couple carb swap links, including the Nikki carb... Nikki carb swap Daihatsu carb swap Pony carb swap And there are tons 'o site on rebuilding and upgrading the Nikki carb, just Google it. . __________________ Tim Lund Yeah, I wear a Kilt... what you're not man enough?! Want beadlocks? Allied Beadlocks.... Best designed and best priced aluminum beadlock on the market! Got 40 SPLINE? Time for you to get 40 spline too! 40 spline hubs, spindles, outer stub shafts, 40 spline 14 bolt & Dana 60 Air Lockers http://www.wildwestfab.com.... WILD WEST OFF ROAD 360-264-5363

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