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Old 11-07-2006, 08:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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propane on sami

is anyone runnin the kit from got ( got propane ) on there sami ? is it worth the 695$ i need so power, thought propane might be the fix
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Old 11-09-2006, 10:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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is anyone runnin propane on there sami 1.3 motor at all ?
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Old 11-10-2006, 01:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I got my kit from gotpropane I love it its the SH!T. GO FOR IT






















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Old 11-10-2006, 07:24 PM   #4 (permalink)
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not to jack the thread but has anyone made there own kit?
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Old 11-10-2006, 07:29 PM   #5 (permalink)
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i will be buying the kit after my first shake down. I cant wait! It will also work great when i do my 8 valve 1.6 motor.
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ive been checking out that kit too it looks great i wanna try it.today i ran into a guy at the post office with a chevy luv running propane but his setup goes on top of the carb and he can switch from gas to propane with the flip of a switch i thought that was kinda cool. propane looks like the way to go with a sammy
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Old 07-04-2007, 06:30 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Sorry to kick up an old thread, but how would propane work in a daily driver samurai what about one with minor oil leaks?
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Old 07-04-2007, 05:24 PM   #8 (permalink)
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there's a bunch of info on it in this thread that Geiger did

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I wanted to do the same thing and its the new fix for saving money on a painless wiring harness with a lot of guys lately. I got an EFI 16 valve cheap which was the only reason I didn't run propane on mine.
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Ill let you know probably by the begining of next week my kit from got propane.com should arrive. Cary is a great guy and I have all the confidence that it will work flawless
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has anyone looked into the natural gas/ propane...? would love to see this then you could just fill up at home instead of looking for the gas station that has propane
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I through together my own kit search my name it's on here somewhere
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has anyone looked into the natural gas/ propane...? would love to see this then you could just fill up at home instead of looking for the gas station that has propane
Natural gas is not liquid like propane, therefore it needs to be compressed to fit any meaningful amount in a vehicle. Natural gas vehicles are either 3000, or 3600 psi systems. All of the CNG (compressed natural gas) vehicles on the roads have electronic engine controls. They have nothing in common with propane. It would be cost prohibitive to convert a rig to run on CNG. Not to mention fuel availability is limited.
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i got the kit from got propane and this kit works very well on my 1.3 my rig is trail only but the throttle response is great no more hesitaion, no flat spot i no longer have the need to build a 1.6 to swap in i takes a little time to tune and get the timing right were you want it , and the only problem on the install was the new throttle body i had to get creative to make the throttle cable hook up but it works just had to fab up a mount. on the gas mileage its not the best in the world but i could very easly go all the way through the con on 1/2 a 10 gallon tank
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Thats good to hear hooligan, maybe I will build around one tank and stash another one in a buddies bigger rig
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Natural gas is not liquid like propane, therefore it needs to be compressed to fit any meaningful amount in a vehicle. Natural gas vehicles are either 3000, or 3600 psi systems. All of the CNG (compressed natural gas) vehicles on the roads have electronic engine controls. They have nothing in common with propane. It would be cost prohibitive to convert a rig to run on CNG. Not to mention fuel availability is limited.
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well the reason i brought it up was that i ran across a site that sells units that install at your own home and compress the NG therefore the availability would not be a factor but instead it would be the cost of the unit and install
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Yes, you could use a home fill, but they are really slow. You typically have to hook it up at night so it's full by morning. Even if you had one of these units, you would be looking at WAY more money than a sami is worth to convert it. Unless you got a grant to pay for it, the cost of fuel would NEVER pay back the conversion cost. Not to mention if you ever ran out of fuel, you'd be fucked. CNG is a headache you don't want.
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If that were the case id agree but the conversions i have seen are a CNG/ Propane pretty versitile i think
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Post up a link to the CNG conversion stuff you're talking about. I'd like to see what it is.
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I really dont know much about this other than what i read the reason i brought it up was that is alot like a propane conversion and i thought someone might be interested. but here are a couple of links i ran across
http://www.cleanfuelsohio.org/cngconversions.php
http://www.hendrixsystems.com/
http://www.consumerenergycenter.org/.../afvs/cng.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5960905/
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Just giving them the quick once-over, that hendrixsystems place is the only one that says they make cng conversion kits, and I didn't see any pics. The first site shows what vehicles are currently certified to be converted and offer conversion on those vehicles. CNG would be a bitch to do, not to mention cost prohibitive. The tanks are WAY expensive, and you need alot of them to carry enough fuel to get anywhere meaningful. They are not set up like propane either, the tank is permanently mounted in the vehicle and all of the lines are stainless tube. CNG is not the wave of the future. Do a little research on the cost of the conversions that these places sell. It's not for the backyard DIYer.
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I used to do cng conversions for teh govt. They were huge money wasters and performance really sucked. I'd do a city bus and go fill it up about 10 miles away. By the time I got back to the shop, it was already almost 1/4 down. Basically no range. Mega bucks to do and some seriously specialized equipment. The only real alternative fuel is propane. It's available, works excellent in stock motors, D.I.Y. friendly, and comparable to gas in mileage and power. Win win situation.
Oh, if you want to see a closeup install of this kit, 4wd and sport utility mag is running an install article on it this month(Aug issue)
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I cant wait for my kit Cary is it here is it here lol...Ryan
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