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sami86 · 04-23-2007, 09:56 PM

i am putting yj axles under my sammi and i know the stock master wont be enough so what do yall think i should go with?..oh and im going with a 2.8 v6 as well

sami86 · 04-24-2007, 12:12 PM

wow 33 people viewed this post and nobody can suggest one?

NOODLES · 04-24-2007, 01:25 PM

My brother runs a stock sami one with toy axles. the 4 piston caliper probably needs just as much fluid as the large single piston jeep caliper. if you need more. use a dodge master cylinder and hog the holes.

Strange · 04-24-2007, 01:47 PM

ide be more worried about what you gona do with the differntialy being of the wrong side, but as for brakes its really up to you to see if your satisfied with it, ide probly upgrade to subaru mc or the mazda 929 or whatever mc

rockmike · 04-24-2007, 02:35 PM

i think the sammy master will work fine.Im runnin toys and have never had a prob stopping my rig and weighs 3200 lbs.

TX_Zuki · 04-25-2007, 08:53 PM

I love my Firebird MC, here is some info http://www.zukikrawlers.com/showthre...light=firebird

Crow Horse · 04-26-2007, 04:34 AM

The Subie MC bolts on (no hogging holes and metric to SAE adapters) and has a 1 1/16" bore.........

I believe I usedd one from a 98 Legacy w/ABS......

roczuk · 04-26-2007, 06:57 AM

I think that if you are running rear drum brake toys then the sammy MC will be fine but I'm running the Firebird MC and love it.

if you want to go with the Mazda 929, I have one for $50

Yankee Tim · 04-26-2007, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crow Horse

The Subie MC bolts on (no hogging holes and metric to SAE adapters) and has a 1 1/16" bore.........

I believe I usedd one from a 98 Legacy w/ABS......

The Subie Legacy and Legacy Outbacks are the donors. As Crow pointed out, direct bolt on and stays metric (uses Sammy fittin's). It's even NIBCO, so it's OEM.

With a 1-1/16" bore, it's the largest bore MC I've been able to find that is driect bolton, metric.

If you got a lot of fluid to move (ie, 4 wheel disc) the bigger the bore, the better.

supazuk94 · 04-27-2007, 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yankee Tim

The Subie Legacy and Legacy Outbacks are the donors. As Crow pointed out, direct bolt on and stays metric (uses Sammy fittin's). It's even NIBCO, so it's OEM.

With a 1-1/16" bore, it's the largest bore MC I've been able to find that is driect bolton, metric.

If you got a lot of fluid to move (ie, 4 wheel disc) the bigger the bore, the better.

i don't care what name is on parts for less than $20 to replace
go firechicken

tinbeater · 04-27-2007, 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supazuk94

i don't care what name is on parts for less than $20 to replace
go firechicken

X2. Thats why I went with a Firebird one. Plus I'm smart enough to reflare the lines with the right fittings.

Yankee Tim · 04-27-2007, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supazuk94

i don't care what name is on parts for less than $20 to replace
go firechicken

MCs cost $9.99 with a dollar core from the picknpull up hear, so I don't know what price has to do with it.

If your are upgrading to a larger MC, why wouldn't you want the larger fluid displacement?

I guess some like to work harder to have less.

Whatever floats the boat.

Crow Horse · 04-30-2007, 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yankee Tim

MCs cost $9.99 with a dollar core from the picknpull up hear, so I don't know what price has to do with it.

If your are upgrading to a larger MC, why wouldn't you want the larger fluid displacement?

I guess some like to work harder to have less.

Whatever floats the boat.

The only reason I can think of why one wouldn't go with the Subie MC in my opinion might be availability. The Firebird MC's are easily available. However, The Subie MC looks like it grew there AND is easier to install (not that any of them are a big deal).

For my application, the Subie MC was the only way to go as The overall length of the MC would be an issue. Anything longer would interfere with my oil filters.......

The Subie MC is a cleaner install and worth any extra effort to procure. For some, this isn't an issue........

Alleyoppe · 04-30-2007, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yankee Tim

The Subie Legacy and Legacy Outbacks are the donors. As Crow pointed out, direct bolt on and stays metric (uses Sammy fittin's).

What year models do you use?

POWERSTROKEN · 04-30-2007, 04:44 PM

I made a hybrid booster for mine. I was able to bolt a Toy booster to my Zuk body with no body mods and I run an FJ MC with 4 wheel discs on Toy axles. Jim

04-23-2007, 09:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
sami86 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Member # 75252 Location: sACRAMENTO,Ca Posts: 457	what master cylinder i am putting yj axles under my sammi and i know the stock master wont be enough so what do yall think i should go with?..oh and im going with a 2.8 v6 as well __________________ UTI

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sami86 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Member # 75252 Location: sACRAMENTO,Ca Posts: 457	wow 33 people viewed this post and nobody can suggest one? __________________ UTI

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rockmike Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Member # 80317 Location: under my zuke bustin my knuckles Posts: 181	i think the sammy master will work fine.Im runnin toys and have never had a prob stopping my rig and weighs 3200 lbs. __________________ 87 zuke ford 2.3l propane,4:16 t-case,custom t-case bucket,scout steering,toy axles,frnt arb, rear spool,89'' wheelbase on wrongler leaves,35'' tires custom cut.

04-25-2007, 08:53 PM	#6 (permalink)
TX_Zuki That doesn't hurt Join Date: Apr 2003 Member # 18577 Location: Burleson, TX Posts: 523	I love my Firebird MC, here is some info http://www.zukikrawlers.com/showthre...light=firebird __________________ www.zukikrawlers.com

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Crow Horse Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Member # 8458 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 52	The Subie MC bolts on (no hogging holes and metric to SAE adapters) and has a 1 1/16" bore......... I believe I usedd one from a 98 Legacy w/ABS...... __________________ All Good Medicine, Crow

04-24-2007, 01:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
NOODLES Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Member # 3132 Location: I love jews Posts: 4,891	My brother runs a stock sami one with toy axles. the 4 piston caliper probably needs just as much fluid as the large single piston jeep caliper. if you need more. use a dodge master cylinder and hog the holes.

04-24-2007, 01:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
Strange Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Member # 63309 Location: Dallas-Austin, tx Posts: 294	ide be more worried about what you gona do with the differntialy being of the wrong side, but as for brakes its really up to you to see if your satisfied with it, ide probly upgrade to subaru mc or the mazda 929 or whatever mc

04-26-2007, 06:57 AM	#8 (permalink)
roczuk Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Member # 47428 Location: burbank Posts: 1,328	I think that if you are running rear drum brake toys then the sammy MC will be fine but I'm running the Firebird MC and love it. if you want to go with the Mazda 929, I have one for $50

04-30-2007, 04:44 PM	#15 (permalink)
POWERSTROKEN Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Member # 40246 Location: Pennsyltucky Posts: 1,248	I made a hybrid booster for mine. I was able to bolt a Toy booster to my Zuk body with no body mods and I run an FJ MC with 4 wheel discs on Toy axles. Jim __________________ [SIZE="3"]"Don't RAM it...STROKE it" [COLOR="DarkRed"] Family Krawler 98 4 door Tracker in the works CPI 4.3, 700R4, MC Dual Ultimate Toy's, Rockwell's, Fox air shocks[/COLOR] [COLOR="Navy"]2000 E350 4x4 7.3 Powerstroke D60/D70 35" IROK's on 20" Trail Ready's, Powershot 2000, Edge Evolution programer [/COLOR] [/SIZE]

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