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Old 02-04-2010, 05:08 AM   #101 (permalink)
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I did a Ecotec / 700r4 / atlas swap in my ''suzuki'' base buggy. You need a adaptor for the bellhousing. I used the stock power steering pump to drive 2 double end ram for 4 wheel steering and I worked great. For the cooling hoses clearance issu, just bend up the metal hose and a little grindind on the tranny. You will need a custom tork converter. Mine was a corvette 2150 machined to have it bolted to the ecotec flexplate.

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Old 02-04-2010, 10:57 PM   #102 (permalink)
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anything over aorund 120HP is pushing a sammy trans. TCASE can take more but how much? sidekick trans is an almost requirement and a toy tranny is even better. sandrails get away with small trans due to lots of slipping in the sand and super lightweight.
I had a VW 1.8 gas on a Samurai trans and beat the tar out of that thing and the tranny and t-case did not care at all. Eventually my abusive driving blew a ring off a piston and killed the motor.

Anyhow, I think people discount what the Samurai trans is able to handle. I have seen several 4.3 liter swaps that kept the Samurai t-case. I have seen a few turbo and super charged Suzuki motors that were putting out over 120 HP, and also a few VW 1.9 turbo diesels all running through the stock driveline and none of them had problems. (well, diesels will rattle the trans apart over time near an idle.)

If I could easily mate the Ecotec to the Samurai trans, I'd go for that option in a heart beat. Probably upgrade to a hydro clutch though. I hate that cable.

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Old 02-05-2010, 10:49 AM   #103 (permalink)
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I'm also going to be building a buggy with the Ecotec small light good power, cheap and plentiful.

The Sky/Solstice Bellhousing GM P/N 89060089 Bolts directly up to the AX-15 internal slave. I have them both in hand.
The bell is 1/4" shorter but I figure I can either make a 1/8" spacer on both side if the splines are not long enough. With 1/8" the alignment pins will still reach.
http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/e.../photo_04.html


Web wheeling revealed that the 84 Camaro 4cyl clutch Napa P/N RCF4198 is supposed to work 9-1/8" diameter and 10 spline 1-1/8" dia. Summit also sell a centerforce with same dimensions.


To run it I plan on going with the MSD distributor for spark and propane for fuel, should be straight forward and simple.
Level Zero sells intake flanges to make your own intake.
http://www.levelzeromotorsports.com/...ae7b4386e519dd


Only thing I will need to do is build a custom power steering pump bracket but there should be plenty of room where the A/C compressor was.

**Does anyone sell a P/S bracket/pulley for the Ecotec?

Does anyone know of any non one off custom built adapters for an Ecotec to a RWD auto like 904 or something jeep related.
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Old 02-05-2010, 11:54 AM   #104 (permalink)
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If the Sky/solstice bellhousing bolts to an AX15 that also means it will bolt to a turbo or v6 Toyota trans!
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Old 02-05-2010, 01:03 PM   #105 (permalink)
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Correct but the input shaft lengths are different and require more work.
There is a lot of good information here for swapping Asian Bellhousing bolt pattern transmissions.
No sense in repeating it.

http://www.jeeps-offroad.com/f41/eng...housings-4740/

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Old 02-05-2010, 06:13 PM   #106 (permalink)
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There is a lot of good information here for swapping Asian Bellhousing bolt pattern transmissions.
No sense in repeating it.

http://www.jeeps-offroad.com/f41/eng...housings-4740/
Great info.
Sure is good seeing a newbie that knows things and not just talking shiat.
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Old 02-06-2010, 09:28 AM   #107 (permalink)
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Great info.
Sure is good seeing a newbie that knows things and not just talking shiat.

Thanks

I've been around a while, Iím on a bunch of other forums hard to keep on tract of them all. Local jeep clubs, rauschcreek, racedezert, ecotec forum, whatever google brings me too and has good Tech.

I try to only write when I feel it is important I hate all the clutter on the forums.
I donít know much about Suzuki but Iíve been doing a bunch of searching on the Ecotec.

I didnít see the Ecotec Build Book if any of you are interested
http://www.gmtunersource.com/index.p...tec-build-book

I mostly just read on Pirate this site is a little overwhelming there is so much good information here the search button is my best friend. Thatís how I found this thread.

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I'm also going to be building a buggy with the Ecotec small light good power, cheap and plentiful.

The Sky/Solstice Bellhousing GM P/N 89060089 Bolts directly up to the AX-15 internal slave. I have them both in hand.
The bell is 1/4" shorter but I figure I can either make a 1/8" spacer on both side if the splines are not long enough. With 1/8" the alignment pins will still reach.
http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/e.../photo_04.html


Web wheeling revealed that the 84 Camaro 4cyl clutch Napa P/N RCF4198 is supposed to work 9-1/8" diameter and 10 spline 1-1/8" dia. Summit also sell a centerforce with same dimensions.


To run it I plan on going with the MSD distributor for spark and propane for fuel, should be straight forward and simple.
Level Zero sells intake flanges to make your own intake.
http://www.levelzeromotorsports.com/...ae7b4386e519dd


Only thing I will need to do is build a custom power steering pump bracket but there should be plenty of room where the A/C compressor was.

**Does anyone sell a P/S bracket/pulley for the Ecotec?

Does anyone know of any non one off custom built adapters for an Ecotec to a RWD auto like 904 or something jeep related.

Good info..
I would also like to know about the 904 tranny adapter if one. Cause I have one built in my garage.
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Old 03-10-2010, 02:41 PM   #109 (permalink)
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Is this thread dead or not??, I really want to see some pictures of this conversion.

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Old 03-11-2010, 05:11 AM   #110 (permalink)
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not that up to speed on these motors, but are they in Saturns? I've seen a bunch around here cheap with either the 1.9s or some V6s (1994 - 2000 range)
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if you guys would like pics and some measurements of the ecotec pm me - a buddy has a supercharged engine sitting in his shop -
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Old 03-25-2010, 10:16 AM   #112 (permalink)
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Old 04-01-2010, 11:30 PM   #113 (permalink)
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Use a transmission out of a Saturn Sky or the Pontiac Solstice. Its the correst bolt pattern for theecotech and almost the same length as the samurai transmission. However the shifter location is a little farther back... The go for 500 to 700 on ebay. You can get a package off ebay for around 3 grand with the ecotech in the 2.0, 2.2 or the 2.4 and you can also get them supercharged or turbocharged.. Its just money and you cant take it with you.
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Use a transmission out of a Saturn Sky or the Pontiac Solstice. Its the correst bolt pattern for theecotech and almost the same length as the samurai transmission. However the shifter location is a little farther back... The go for 500 to 700 on ebay. You can get a package off ebay for around 3 grand with the ecotech in the 2.0, 2.2 or the 2.4 and you can also get them supercharged or turbocharged.. Its just money and you cant take it with you.

there is a guy near me that has dozens of these cars, totaled and whole for sale ...

has motors, trannys ... etc out and in various stages of dissassembly ...

if you use the car tranny what do you do for a transfer?
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It has been a while since I have looked at this, Life got in the way but here goes. Just received a solstice tranny today. Here is the tale of the tape.
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New Process 231 transfer case, is been used by ICON in their CJ3B replica with an ecotec 2.4 as engine and the Aisin-Warner AX15 five speed as transmission.

http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/feature..._3b/index.html

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will the bellhousing work with an aisin tranny? has anyone done this? I think that would be the setup so you can run yota tcase, maybe even dual marlins if it not to long...
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ive been salivating over that icon since that came out. i sure would like to know how they bolted all that up.
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Solstice bell housing on Toyota tranny
Toy on the right Eco on left
3/4 on an inch taller
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so do you need a longer input shaft to make it work?

Ddog87, the solstice bellhousing did directly bolt up to aisin tranny. any mods needed to bolt it together? i noticed in your sig that you have a 87 yota. are you having any motor fitment issues? do you have full body or are you tubed out? I am curious if you have enough space, cause if you dont then the ecotec motor definitely wont fit in a samurai.
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This is just ONE of many projects I have an addiction. No mods to make the bell housing bolt on. The solstice input shaft is alot longer I'm looking into this problem next.
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This is just ONE of many projects I have an addiction. No mods to make the bell housing bolt on. The solstice input shaft is alot longer I'm looking into this problem next.
3/4" spacer between the bell and trans. Problem solved.... well kinda

Whoops i was thinking yota bell on solstice trans
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The solstice bell is the deeper one. You would need to make it 3/4 shallower. Maybe shave each side of the bell housing if there is enough material
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