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wamp · 11-20-2007, 02:09 PM

my transfer case is now a 2 piece unit. my rig is a full tube 1.6 16v with an auto trans with sidekick transfer case feeding the sammi case with 6:1 gears. its mounted soildly. my question is does any one make a complete steel wrap or try to mount an atlas in it.

Valley Auto · 11-20-2007, 02:24 PM

Sorry Im no help, but im interested in what u find as I think this is just a matter of time. there was a guy on here that was selling full billet cases for samurai, maybe he will chime in.

tipover · 11-20-2007, 07:21 PM

Wow.

dabomb5756 · 11-20-2007, 07:33 PM

Someone made a quick run of them, maybe 12 and they were all bought i think. You can try to talk rockrat from Rock4xfabrications to build one.

If they were 50 or less, i'd be up for purchasing one.
They wouldnt really be hard to design, and the extra steel in the middle could be made into gussets, tabs, and other things that can be sold.

Scott410 · 11-20-2007, 07:48 PM

TT's Mighty Kong case adds a lot of strength, it's not wrap around but I think it would help significantly.

earnie · 11-20-2007, 08:28 PM

No one that I know makes one but azrckcrawler spined his t-case mount. He has more details on his site which is where I got this pic.

wamp · 11-20-2007, 08:41 PM

still open to any option. talked to advance adapters too day, they do make a divoriced t-case. just need to leave the skinny peddel on the right alone.

earnie · 11-20-2007, 11:32 PM

Hill billy Rock Krew had sold a billet case for the samurai transfer case. I was going to link a pick for you but I see that there web site is down. www.hbrk4x4.com is the site. Maybe contact Rudezuk on the board if you wanted to go that route. He is the owner of HBRK I believe.

tipover · 11-20-2007, 11:34 PM

I am the builder of the billet case. Rude zuke AKA HBRK no longer sells them for me.

Rockrat · 11-20-2007, 11:35 PM

Tipover is the guy that made the SAM box, whish is an entire billet rear half, VERY NICE UNIT. As for The Spine on Chris's case he added that to the Forrest bucket that we sell.

earnie · 11-20-2007, 11:45 PM

SOrry Tipover. I realized I had made a mistake when I was searching for olds threads about the case when i found this thread ... Billet Case

Here is a pic of Tipovers Billet Case.

moveaside · 11-21-2007, 04:39 AM

So wamp how exactly was your t case solid mounted? Can you post some pics of your original mount and the carnage.
After all this thread is worthless without pics.

tipover · 11-21-2007, 07:11 AM

that was the first one that I made by with a manual mill. the newer on in my avitar is the current CNC one.

Hvy_Chevy · 11-21-2007, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moveaside

So wamp how exactly was your t case solid mounted? Can you post some pics of your original mount and the carnage.
After all this thread is worthless without pics.

x2! Were you just using the stock arms, or some kind of beefed mount that tied both arms together?
You could also look into a Tracker doubler (like the Kicker3 or the Rat Reduction Box) which ties the sami t-case to a tracker t-case -> this greatly reduces the stress on the sami case

moveaside · 11-22-2007, 05:03 AM

I'm about to run the same setup. I remember hard mounting the t-case behind the kick doubler I got from Rockrat but I wasn't completely comfortable with the stress the housing might have to endure from the added torsion. Well the quick and easy fix was beefy arms and mounting hardware and then a weld on bucket from Rockrat. This bucket seems to absorb a lot of the torsion and twist taking it off of the housing. Hopefully I will not experience the same problem.

wamp · 11-26-2007, 10:19 AM

really interested in the billet case made by tipover. p.m me tipover.

Hvy_Chevy · 11-26-2007, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moveaside

I'm about to run the same setup. I remember hard mounting the t-case behind the kick doubler I got from Rockrat but I wasn't completely comfortable with the stress the housing might have to endure from the added torsion.

In a married setup - you don't want to hard mount the t-case, that only works when divorced.

JPinAZ · 11-26-2007, 04:47 PM

Tipover, do you still make and sell the billet case? Can you PM me with pricing?
Thanks,
Jon

tipover · 11-26-2007, 10:48 PM

i think I have a few in storage some where. i saved a few for i don't know what. I won't make any more because most sammy owners are cheap unless there is a group buy. I'll pm ya

Yankee Tim · 11-27-2007, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tipover

i think I have a few in storage some where. i saved a few for i don't know what. I won't make any more because most sammy owners are cheap unless there is a group buy. I'll pm ya

Can you PM me as well, I'm not a cheap ass Zooker. Unlike most,I bought mine brand new.

rollazuki · 11-27-2007, 02:58 PM

What kinda bhp can you put thru a sammy transfer box before it grenades?
Im running 4.16 gears and a diesel turbo, and not broke it yet.....BUT.....

Rolla

fordori · 11-27-2007, 06:59 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTHImoIZcP4

moveaside · 11-28-2007, 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fordori

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTHImoIZcP4

Video is a little fuzzy I can't even tell is he's running stock arms to mount the case or what? Kind of what I'm talking about in the fact he has a skid but no exo skeleton for the case to take some stress off the housing itself. Lets be honest if you dropped a sammy case on the ground its likely to crack. I'm aware that blunt trauma is different than torsion but its just goes to show how thin the housing wall is. I'm going to say my theory is just like the deflection you see in a ring gear and pinion teeth your seeing the same type of forces at work against the gears inside the housing. Cage bearings and the shafts inside the case will try and do their job but the housing may need help keeping itself together under such forces. Builds look different than years ago with sammy drivetrain. Toy axles gave confidence for bigger tires. The engine is underpowered so its light and has trouble hurting the drivetrain but 6.5 gears and big tires says do something to help out the t-case IMO. Its not a costly fix and I'm not saying its bulletproof just a lot better.

fordori · 11-28-2007, 07:34 AM

i can make the video better. its just takes longer to upload onto youtube. the case acully split all the way around. really crazy.

2slo4u · 11-28-2007, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tipover

i think I have a few in storage some where. i saved a few for i don't know what. I won't make any more because most sammy owners are cheap unless there is a group buy. I'll pm ya

Pm me as well. Thanks.

11-20-2007, 02:09 PM	#1 (permalink)
wamp Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Member # 79980 Location: indiana Posts: 61	zuk transfer case explosion my transfer case is now a 2 piece unit. my rig is a full tube 1.6 16v with an auto trans with sidekick transfer case feeding the sammi case with 6:1 gears. its mounted soildly. my question is does any one make a complete steel wrap or try to mount an atlas in it.

11-20-2007, 02:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
Valley Auto Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Aug 2006 Member # 78079 Location: Carmel Valley Ca Posts: 2,710	Sorry Im no help, but im interested in what u find as I think this is just a matter of time. there was a guy on here that was selling full billet cases for samurai, maybe he will chime in. __________________ Master of the wire Wheel! Coastal Fabrication the " best damn shop in town" Poly Performance Pacific Fabrication http://www.pacificfab.net/

11-20-2007, 07:21 PM	#3 (permalink)
tipover Granite Guru Join Date: Sep 2001 Member # 7265 Location: Foresthill, Ca Posts: 576	Wow. __________________ 87 jx "TIPOVER" with Billet SamboxII 8:1 transfercase made by me.

11-20-2007, 07:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
dabomb5756 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Member # 62837 Location: Peoria Illinois Posts: 607	Someone made a quick run of them, maybe 12 and they were all bought i think. You can try to talk rockrat from Rock4xfabrications to build one. If they were 50 or less, i'd be up for purchasing one. They wouldnt really be hard to design, and the extra steel in the middle could be made into gussets, tabs, and other things that can be sold. __________________ 88 Samurai, 104WB, Locked Up Yotas, 6.5's, 36's. Chop and stretch: [URL="http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=643403"]http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=643403[/URL] [QUOTE]I blew through two D60's ring and pinions, and three sets of superior shafts. I run 42" tsl's, and finally stepped up to a Cryo'd D30..... I will never look back[/QUOTE]

11-20-2007, 07:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
Scott410 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Member # 89908 Location: Moore, Oklahoma (Currently Deployed) Posts: 334	TT's Mighty Kong case adds a lot of strength, it's not wrap around but I think it would help significantly. __________________ http://www.zukikrawlers.com/showthread.php?t=14532

11-20-2007, 08:28 PM	#6 (permalink)
earnie Wheeler Join Date: Apr 2004 Member # 29477 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 210	No one that I know makes one but azrckcrawler spined his t-case mount. He has more details on his site which is where I got this pic.

11-20-2007, 08:41 PM	#7 (permalink)
wamp Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Member # 79980 Location: indiana Posts: 61	still open to any option. talked to advance adapters too day, they do make a divoriced t-case. just need to leave the skinny peddel on the right alone.

11-20-2007, 11:32 PM	#8 (permalink)
earnie Wheeler Join Date: Apr 2004 Member # 29477 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 210	Hill billy Rock Krew had sold a billet case for the samurai transfer case. I was going to link a pick for you but I see that there web site is down. www.hbrk4x4.com is the site. Maybe contact Rudezuk on the board if you wanted to go that route. He is the owner of HBRK I believe.

11-20-2007, 11:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
tipover Granite Guru Join Date: Sep 2001 Member # 7265 Location: Foresthill, Ca Posts: 576	I am the builder of the billet case. Rude zuke AKA HBRK no longer sells them for me. __________________ 87 jx "TIPOVER" with Billet SamboxII 8:1 transfercase made by me.

11-20-2007, 11:35 PM	#10 (permalink)
Rockrat Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Nov 2001 Member # 8111 Location: Waukegan Illinois Posts: 3,842	Tipover is the guy that made the SAM box, whish is an entire billet rear half, VERY NICE UNIT. As for The Spine on Chris's case he added that to the Forrest bucket that we sell. __________________ Your right I own the Fucking Place All Rock 4X Fab Products Made IN THE USA!!! Rock 4X Fabrication,Inc 1-847-672-9653

11-20-2007, 11:45 PM	#11 (permalink)
earnie Wheeler Join Date: Apr 2004 Member # 29477 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 210	SOrry Tipover. I realized I had made a mistake when I was searching for olds threads about the case when i found this thread ... Billet Case Here is a pic of Tipovers Billet Case.

11-21-2007, 04:39 AM	#12 (permalink)
moveaside Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11983 Location: Carlsbad, CA Posts: 2,958	So wamp how exactly was your t case solid mounted? Can you post some pics of your original mount and the carnage. After all this thread is worthless without pics. __________________ My crappy build [url]http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=587635[/url]

11-21-2007, 07:11 AM	#13 (permalink)
tipover Granite Guru Join Date: Sep 2001 Member # 7265 Location: Foresthill, Ca Posts: 576	that was the first one that I made by with a manual mill. the newer on in my avitar is the current CNC one. __________________ 87 jx "TIPOVER" with Billet SamboxII 8:1 transfercase made by me.

11-22-2007, 05:03 AM	#15 (permalink)
moveaside Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11983 Location: Carlsbad, CA Posts: 2,958	I'm about to run the same setup. I remember hard mounting the t-case behind the kick doubler I got from Rockrat but I wasn't completely comfortable with the stress the housing might have to endure from the added torsion. Well the quick and easy fix was beefy arms and mounting hardware and then a weld on bucket from Rockrat. This bucket seems to absorb a lot of the torsion and twist taking it off of the housing. Hopefully I will not experience the same problem. __________________ My crappy build [url]http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=587635[/url]

11-26-2007, 10:19 AM	#16 (permalink)
wamp Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Member # 79980 Location: indiana Posts: 61	really interested in the billet case made by tipover. p.m me tipover.

11-26-2007, 04:47 PM	#18 (permalink)
JPinAZ Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Member # 62945 Location: Mesa, Arizona Posts: 41	Tipover, do you still make and sell the billet case? Can you PM me with pricing? Thanks, Jon

11-26-2007, 10:48 PM	#19 (permalink)
tipover Granite Guru Join Date: Sep 2001 Member # 7265 Location: Foresthill, Ca Posts: 576	i think I have a few in storage some where. i saved a few for i don't know what. I won't make any more because most sammy owners are cheap unless there is a group buy. I'll pm ya __________________ 87 jx "TIPOVER" with Billet SamboxII 8:1 transfercase made by me.

11-27-2007, 02:58 PM	#21 (permalink)
rollazuki Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Member # 41618 Location: sheffield UK Posts: 93	What kinda bhp can you put thru a sammy transfer box before it grenades? Im running 4.16 gears and a diesel turbo, and not broke it yet.....BUT..... Rolla

11-27-2007, 06:59 PM	#22 (permalink)
fordori Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Member # 89600 Location: Sac(Sacramento) Posts: 710	Bigjoeduckslayer's Explosion On Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTHImoIZcP4 __________________ [URL="http://www.myspace.com/jasondonnel"]http://www.myspace.com/jasondonnel[/URL]

11-28-2007, 07:34 AM	#24 (permalink)
fordori Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Member # 89600 Location: Sac(Sacramento) Posts: 710	i can make the video better. its just takes longer to upload onto youtube. the case acully split all the way around. really crazy. __________________ [URL="http://www.myspace.com/jasondonnel"]http://www.myspace.com/jasondonnel[/URL]

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