99' 2.0 tracker swap into sammi?

[irishzuk]

got a slamming deal on a 2.0 from the local pick and pull. $53 for eveything all accesories, computer, engine wiring, stater, and cat.. so now i'm looking for some help. as far as the wiring its going to take a bit of work but i'll figure it out. what i'm looking for help with is the mateing of the sammi trans with the 2.0? does anyone have any info in reagrds to this, it would be greatly appreciated. what i was wondering is if i could just use the flywheel for a 2.0 with slight modification? thanks in advance

[fordori]

goo deal I would pay 53$ in gas to get it for that much!!

[Baratacus]

Two more things to make sure you have are the pressure sensor off of the fuel tank and the instrument cluster from the dash. You need the pressure sensor so you can mount it on your samurai tank, and the instrument cluster so you can remove the speed sensor from the Kick speedo and put it in your Sami speedo.

You need a modified flywheel to mate it to the samurai transmission. You also need an adapter plate, motor mount adapters, an electric fan w/shroud and 3 core radiator.

Trail Tough sells a complete kit with all of the stuff for a swap (including the wiring harness conversion and speedo conversion) for $1250. Aftermarket 4x4 is the only other place I know of that sells a kit for the DOHC conversion (1.8L and 2.0L) I think Sean DeVinney probably outsources conversion kits to Trail Tough since their prices are the same. If you wan't some personalized help though and someone that will get helpfull and informative answers to you, go through Sean over at Aftermarket 4x4. He was really helpfull in answering all my questions.

[irishzuk]

Originally Posted by Baratacus

Two more things to make sure you have are the pressure sensor off of the fuel tank and the instrument cluster from the dash. You need the pressure sensor so you can mount it on your samurai tank, and the instrument cluster so you can remove the speed sensor from the Kick speedo and put it in your Sami speedo.

from what i have read i don't need the pressure sensor. with out it it will just have a check engine light. as far as the speed sensor i thought of it but i don't think it is really needed. what do you mean by the speed sensor from the kick speedo? this motor came out of a tracker. also why wouldn't i be able to run the stock rad instead of the 3 core rad trail tough is running? thanks for all the advise i'm just trying to cover all my bases but i jump in. keep it coming.

[Baratacus]

tracker..sidekick.. you know what I mean. I'll try to watch my P's and Q's...

If you don't mind the check engine light and you don't have to pass emission testing then you don't need the pressure sensor. If you don't mind the speedo not working right.. you don't need that part either.

If stock you mean the stock Samurai radiator, it isn't going to keep that engine cool enough with an electric fan on it. The 1.8 and 2.0 engines don't have engine driven fans on them.

If you mean the stock Tracker radiator, then you'll need to do some cutting to get it to fit. I don't know how much cutting since I personally don't know any one thats done it. I'm sure SOMEONE on here HAS done it so maybe they can inform us.

[irishzuk]

no i ment the tracker radiator. and the tracker has a belt driven fan with a clutch in it which i was thinking i'll just use the samurai fan if it will bolt up. also the speedo will work using the sammi trans it will have the cable driven speedo. i think i'm going to use the 1.3 trans because even with the 1.6 i'll have to still get the flywheel machined. thanks for the input. keep it coming.

[OKIE ZUK]

Where are you getting your info? I too am doing a 2.0 but in a buggy. I think your getting some wrong info. Do more research. As stated contact Sean DeVinney, as his 2.0 in a stock bodied Zuk flew at the 2006 Melt.

[Baratacus]

http://members.cox.net/aftermarket4x...es/2liter4.jpg

That's the 2.0 L which is basically the same configuration as the 1.8 L that I have in my back yard right now. Neither one have a belt driven fan with clutch.

The 1.6 has a belt driven fan with clutch and you can bolt the samurai 1.3L fan right up to the 1.6L if you don't have the fan that came with the 1.6.

http://members.cox.net/aftermarket4x...tracker16v.jpg
that's the 1.6L

[Shadow Crawlers]

I know for a fact the 2.0l's have an engine driven fan.

[cj_zuki]

Originally Posted by Shadow Crawlers

I know for a fact the 2.0l's have an engine driven fan.

I know mine does.

[Baratacus]

Did some searching and it looks like some of the 2.0L engines have a fan bolted to the tensioner pully between the crank and the alternator. I don't know if the samurai fan will bolt to it or not. Why don't you just use the tracker fan? As far as air flow, it may not be the best, but I'd think that the draw from a mechanical fan should be able to cool the engine with the stock radiator. Unless you were sitting in traffic, or in the desert. Don't hold me to that though, as far as I knew they didn't even have mechanical fans.

[tdavis]

1) the mechanical fan is in the wrong place, and distance from the engine to work in a zuk with the stock shroud and radiator.

2) the 2 liter runs way hotter than the 1.3, so you will need a bigger radiator.

3) look here for more 2 liter information.

[Shadow Crawlers]

Originally Posted by tdavis

1) the mechanical fan is in the wrong place, and distance from the engine to work in a zuk with the stock shroud and radiator.

2) the 2 liter runs way hotter than the 1.3, so you will need a bigger radiator.

3) look here for more 2 liter information.

Speaking of radiators I recall that you were using a scirrocco (spell check) radiator. I don't remember seeing a part number? I'd like to check into one of these .

Thanks

[tdavis]

Originally Posted by Shadow Crawlers

Speaking of radiators I recall that you were using a scirrocco (spell check) radiator. I don't remember seeing a part number? I'd like to check into one of these .

Thanks

I dunno remember, I'd have to do some digging - it's the same radiator in the tukizuki.

It does one heck of a job keeping it cool; I get temps in the 120's out of it doing 60..

[irishzuk]

Originally Posted by OKIE ZUK

Where are you getting your info? I too am doing a 2.0 but in a buggy. I think your getting some wrong info. Do more research. As stated contact Sean DeVinney, as his 2.0 in a stock bodied Zuk flew at the 2006 Melt.

what info that i have seems to be wrong?

[OKIE ZUK]

Originally Posted by irishzuk

no i ment the tracker radiator. and the tracker has a belt driven fan with a clutch in it which i was thinking i'll just use the samurai fan if it will bolt up. also the speedo will work using the sammi trans it will have the cable driven speedo. i think i'm going to use the 1.3 trans because even with the 1.6 i'll have to still get the flywheel machined. thanks for the input. keep it coming.

Samurai speedo is in the t-case, not the trans. With the 1.6 you use a stock Samurai flywheel.

[irishzuk]

sorry it been a while since i checked on this. but i think that we are on two separte pages. so what your saying is with the 2.0 motor and the 1.6 trans i would just use the samurai flywheel and have no problem? i planned on get this swap under way this weekend but i want to get at least one last hell run in before i do. also there is a bunch of people going out next sunday so i think it is going to get put off till then.

[Baratacus]

no, the 1.6 uses the stock flywheel, Irish was saying you wouldn't need it machined. The 2.0 uses a custom flywheel to mate with the samurai transmission.

[billybob_CA]

Originally Posted by irishzuk

from what i have read i don't need the pressure sensor. with out it it will just have a check engine light. as far as the speed sensor i thought of it but i don't think it is really needed. what do you mean by the speed sensor from the kick speedo? this motor came out of a tracker. jump in. keep it coming.

OK... IF you aren't concerned about passing smog... then the pressure sensor isn't necessary as this is for the EVAP system. However there is the crank timing sensor on the engine and the VSS in the track/kick instrument cluster that is crucial to the proper timing and performance of the engine. Be sure to do all the research necessary. There are plenty of resources available.

Have fun with this!

[irishzuk]

thats why i posted this up before getting in 2 deep. thanks for all the info so far. here is how far i got this weekend got the motor out, all wiring, and the dash. i also plan on making a stainless dash to mount the 2.0 cluster in.







you know i had to post this one since the 2.0 doesn't have a fan...

[irishzuk]

so many views so little replies.

[tommbstone]

will do the 2.0 upgrade this summer. wireing is a byitch

[Baratacus]

everyone is trying to figure out how you got that fan to look like it was mounted on the front like that.

[lebowski]

Keep the info coming. I want to do this at some point also. Are you going to do the wiring harness modifications or send it out?

What is the engine year availability for the 2.0 - just 1999-2002? (I'm going by Trail Toughs website ad for the 2.0 conversion)

[irishzuk]

yes all the wiring i'm going to do myself. as far as the motor mount and the flywheel i'm going to buy them.