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Old 10-22-2008, 04:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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95 Samurai stock axles + 33 inches tires = ???

Hi!!

I'm working on a new project, it means a 95 Samurai and I'm thinking on 33 inches tires using the stock axles, there is some here expirient on it?

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Old 10-22-2008, 05:50 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I sent you a PM regarding this topic, please check in after you do i'll delete this.
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Old 10-22-2008, 05:58 PM   #3 (permalink)
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thats how the stockers will end and the clutch unless ur rly nice unlike me
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I have 33x10.5 tsl on stock axles both welded with 5.13's and I beat the fukk out of it, and they are still holding up
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Old 10-23-2008, 09:03 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Im running 33's on sami axles. But I threw in some 26 spline side gears and front axle shafts with birfield rings, and yukon 5.38 R&P. I have 4.16 in the transfer case and everything is holding up well, but I try to be pretty nice since I DD my sammi
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Old 10-23-2008, 09:19 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I ran 33" LTB's on mine for a couple years with no troubles; stock axle gears/ 6:1 T-case gears/ 'spooled' rear-open front......

'scored' a set of 33x14 Boggers at a swap meet, and two runs later I was swappin to Yota axles--twisted the rear housing between the perches!!!Anyhow, moral is don't put Boggers on if you expect the axles to live with 33's....
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Old 10-23-2008, 10:00 PM   #7 (permalink)
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33x13.35's, stock axles, 5.13's, 4.1's, lockers front and rear, tt 4130 shafts up front, 4 wheel discs, lots of extra steel welded on, 3 years and no "major" problems. i've replaced all the bearings after the first season. i also have a mountain of spares if i need 'em.

of course, i went with pay-as-you-go. if i had all the cash i sunk into the stockers up front, i would have done toys to begin with. cash flow just don't work that way with most (normal) samurai people.

if you go easy on the skinny pedal, avoid excessive wheel hop when the wheels are turned, and finesse your way through, they will hold up. if that is too much for you to worry about, junk 'em and go big. i'm just saying that they *can* work, but it depends on your intended use and driving style.
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I had a tin top with 33" TSL's. When I went to that tire size I really started breaking shafts, fronts and rears. I had birfield rings and that just made it harder to get the axle peices out. 5.12:1 R&P, 4:1 t-case gears. I did wheel it hard though...
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31's are about the limit of worry free on stock axles. 33's and heavy foot start breaking things right away. Been that way for the 12 years I been into zuks.
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I just stepped up from 31 to 33's and I wheeled the crap out of it last weekend on some insane obsticles and had it in some stupid situations and didn't have any problems YET.
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I just stepped up from 31 to 33's and I wheeled the crap out of it last weekend on some insane obsticles and had it in some stupid situations and didn't have any problems YET.
your very lucky then, i ran 33's and snaped birf's every time i turned hard, chunked that crap and went toy's!
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your very lucky then, i ran 33's and snaped birf's every time i turned hard, chunked that crap and went toy's!
X2. People that are running 33s with stock axles and dont break really are not wheelling. Hell I broke stock Toyota's birfeilds with 33s.
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I am running stock Toys with 38's and it's all good so far....
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Hrmm.. some people have more luck than others. I can't find the pics of the front housing after pieces of gear shot through it - but I do have some pics of the rear. My most epic break - both front shafts, housing, locker and gears - rear short side, entire diff and gears - all at the same time - all on 33's. But then again, I've never been accused of taking it too easy..



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if you do 33's make sure you have enough space to turn them without biting your leaf springs. Lots of people run them just fine with little to no modification to the axels. Only critical modification is offset wheels. If you don't get a 1" backspaced wheel or at least put in a wheel spacer, you're going to bite the spring when you turn hard. When you do that the tire is going to walk up inside your wheelwell snapping your axel and steering linkage.

If you're muddbogging you need a different setup than if you're rock crawling and a different set up if you like to race down sandwashes and jump it. Can't really make a good recommendation unless we know how you plan to drive it.
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Just wait until you need to give some engine to get out of a bound up spot with the wheels turned. It'll happen.

I've heard of some mud guys with stock gears and no lockers living with 33's but they aren't really wheeling, more mall wheelers than wheelers.

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Any time you bind the wheels up and have your lockers engaged you run the chance of tearing something. Especially if you have an overbuilt engine and a low geared T-case and or differential.

That brings us to another issue.

If you have the stock 1.3L engine and the stock transfer case and transmission, you're going to need to lower the gear ratio to turn these things. 5th gear is going to be completely useless to you and your engine will sound like an angry bee hive if you have to climb any kind of grade.
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I wheeled four years on 33's with stock axles with no problems, and I'm sure if you ask around enough you'll find out that I do wheel (a little). I'm running Toy axles now, but only after I got my paws on a set of 36" Swampers.

Yes, your likely hood of breaking something goes up, but hell you can break a Rockwell if you try hard enough. There's a lot to be said for wheeling smart, and I fully believe you can wheel hard and smart at the same time and have a lot of fun doing it.
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skinny 33s (33x9.5), open diffs, and 5.13s should take you a lot of places. * keep you foot off the go pedal.

*assuming you've got the clearance to turn and flex them. (offset wheels, spacers, lift, sawsall, etc.)

REAL QUESTION: have you tried wheeling it stock? where are front and rear lockers and aggresive tires not taking you?
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I'm surprised that nobody has told him to sirch. When a forum loses it's edge, the baby jeebus cries
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I'm surprised that nobody has told him to sirch. When a forum loses it's edge, the baby jeebus cries
I thought he killed a kitten???
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Jesus and Kittens have nothing to do with a Samurai.... it's when the squirrels start dying that the shit hits the fan.

Good spelling and grammar are key when searching... unless the searcher has poor grammer and speaks the same dialect used in the post he's looking for. English isn't guto_cerulli's native language and its not real easy to find stuff with all the different english "Dialects" used around here...

It's not hard to find stuff on 33" tires though since just about everyone on here has run them at one time or another, but finding somthing about using them on stock equipment is a whole different furball.
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...its not real easy to find stuff with all the different english "Dialects" used around here...
i think there is more of an issue with derelicts than with dialects...
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agreed.
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X2. People that are running 33s with stock axles and dont break really are not wheelling. Hell I broke stock Toyota's birfeilds with 33s.
Haha... I'm on 33's, 6:1, 5.12's w/lockrite's and wheeled a bunch (heard of Rubicon?)... I have birfield rings up front, and take my time. The skinny usually stays out of the picture. I did break a short-side rear once... on flat ground...must have been waiting to break. I carried 4 spare axles. I'm sure it isn't invincible, but I let the engine idle up and over most obstacle's.. a little pedal when needed, but I'm in no hurry to spend an hour + to change a front shaft... the rears are fun (20min).

the biggest issue I have with the truck is rear axle wrap.. and that crappy Sky anti-wrap junk thing

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