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Old 01-05-2009, 09:59 AM   #26 (permalink)
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wow, they'll sell anybody a welder these days, huh?
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Old 01-05-2009, 11:38 AM   #27 (permalink)
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sell your welder and just buy a ton of jbweld, itll probly stay together longer that way
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Old 01-05-2009, 03:23 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Ive never been one to BASH on someone and im going to try to make it sound like im not now. What the others are saying about this build are major safety concerns. I would never run tube splices like that. Ever. Its just not safe. The trialngulation is not strong enough by itself. You side-hill that thing, its gonna break and your gonna roll. Will your cage hold????? Not worth risking your life on a maybe. That weld on your axle probably wont make it out the driveway. Even the best of welders couldnt make a good weld on a rusty surface like that.
Take it for what you want, Im not trying to just bust your balls. Im just trying to keep you out of a pine box with 6ft of dirt insulation.
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Old 01-05-2009, 04:34 PM   #29 (permalink)
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maybe the pine box is athe only thing that will help at this point
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Old 01-05-2009, 08:26 PM   #30 (permalink)
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will im going to make it all strong this week end. and i will clean up the rust be4 i weld it , on the cage i got to put in more bars and where the gaps are im to cut pipe in half and weld it in there the next pics i have it will be clean
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will im going to make it all strong this week end. and i will clean up the rust be4 i weld it , on the cage i got to put in more bars and where the gaps are im to cut pipe in half and weld it in there the next pics i have it will be clean

dude you get a big E for effort! but come on really. i mean sometimes my work is shady but really??
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Old 01-05-2009, 10:13 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Damm son! You make Kents' buggy look gooooood!!


Seriously, read some books, and take some lessons on how to weld and fabricate. Start with something small like a bumper. That way no one will die while you learn the art.
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Old 01-05-2009, 10:48 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Even the best of welders couldnt make a good weld on a rusty surface like that.
The best of welders would have de-rusted the whole axle, trussed the axle before welding the links on, and arc welded them in their final location.

Not the worst build I've seen on top of a Ford 9", but if you can get a weld like that on rust, then a cleaned up surface might look pretty good.
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What are your plans for the front? Discuss with us before you modify your control arms.
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Old 01-06-2009, 04:48 AM   #35 (permalink)
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im puting up no more pics tell i get the rust off show u guys will stop talking about it lol but if the rust was not there how wood it look

but i do thank u 4 the commets u guys have left this is my first build like this im still learning
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im puting up no more pics tell i get the rust off show u guys will stop talking about it lol but if the rust was not there how wood it look

but i do thank u 4 the commets u guys have left this is my first build like this im still learning
it would look rusty!
J/K it would look like a first time build that needs some good advice and help. dont give up on it!
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Old 01-07-2009, 07:24 AM   #37 (permalink)
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im puting ...tell i get ... show u guys ...how wood it look

...commets ...im still learning
Now, Timmy.

Periods, commas and apostrophes are free to use, as is the spell check feature.

You're making the rest of us Timmy's look bad.
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Old 01-07-2009, 09:25 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Shit what are you guys talking about....Some farmer John 6011 weldin' rod and a real high amperage ota get through that rust


Timmy what exactly are you using to weld with?
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Old 01-07-2009, 12:15 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Shit what are you guys talking about....Some farmer John 6011 weldin' rod and a real high amperage ota get through that rust


Timmy what exactly are you using to weld with?
true, farmer rod can cut grease, but.....with mig, rust creates hella porosity in the weld that you can't see unless you x-ray or peel open the weld. Welding on top of bad weld, makes for a bigger worse weld.

Timmy, seriously consider cutting those welds out with a cut off wheel, takes 2 minutes. Then use a steel brush wheel on a 4" grinder to clean the weld areas before you weld. Also crank up the volts or down on wire speed to get a better looking weld.

also, all the Gen-Rite body armor for heeps is 3/16", so its not totally whacked to use if you wanted too. 16ga was a better choice & my zuk is skinnned in several areas with 1/8".

enjoying the build and remember to wear safety glasses when operating the power tools.
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true, farmer rod can cut grease, but.....with mig, rust creates hella porosity in the weld that you can't see unless you x-ray or peel open the weld. Welding on top of bad weld, makes for a bigger worse weld.

Timmy, seriously consider cutting those welds out with a cut off wheel, takes 2 minutes. Then use a steel brush wheel on a 4" grinder to clean the weld areas before you weld. Also crank up the volts or down on wire speed to get a better looking weld.

also, all the Gen-Rite body armor for heeps is 3/16", so its not totally whacked to use if you wanted too. 16ga was a better choice & my zuk is skinnned in several areas with 1/8".

enjoying the build and remember to wear safety glasses when operating the power tools.

the sides and the tube in side are 16ga steel
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Wow, seems we have a bunch of certified welders.....
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Wow, seems we have a bunch of certified welders.....
well i am a welding inspector if that counts!!!!!!! lol
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Old 01-07-2009, 06:37 PM   #43 (permalink)
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People that cant weld inspect.
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People that cant weld inspect.

ssshhhhh thats supposed to be a secret! lol
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Old 01-07-2009, 08:19 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Old 01-07-2009, 11:51 PM   #46 (permalink)
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I used to help fabricate on excavation equipment and trailers that got them to the job. I run with a group of really picky guys, and a 30+year fabricator helps me with all the tough fabricating.
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Wow, seems we have a bunch of certified welders.....
2 yr accredited college trade school for industrial fab. classes were 7hrs a day, split between theory and lab. worked industrial fab for a few years and had to pass my fair share of destructive metal tests. not currently certified nor nearly as skilled as years past, but my Power Mig 255C makes my welds stick pretty good.

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Used to make 5 to 30,000 gal water tanks and did a few fuel tanks for a fishing boats.....Not one leak on any of them. Burning 6011 and 7018 the whole time.

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Old 01-09-2009, 05:55 AM   #50 (permalink)
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Self taught with friends, books, and time few years now. Been on fire, caught an ember in the ear, driveshaft fell and hit me in the gut and I still kept the bead going when welding through all three of those
So when's the whole thing going to be done TIMMY?
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