tracker/kick 5 spd. shift detents&royal purple - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

raging squirrel · 01-10-2009, 11:11 AM

i decided to dump valvoline 75w90 synthetic in favor of royal purple since it flows better in sub zero weather and have come up with a side affect. the shifter now move a little too easily, that purple stuff must be awful slick. at temps below +30 the cold shift boot pulls it out of 2nd; 4th and reverse are affected too if it gets much colder. once heater warms shift boot problem is gone. this time of year i am in and out of truck all day so cab stays cold often (coyote hunter). is there a stiffer detent ball spring out there? i want to keep the royal purple diff juice.

raging squirrel · 01-18-2009, 07:33 PM

no takers? surely someone in cold climate has experienced this.

cajunsuzukispider · 01-18-2009, 08:49 PM

I can only suggest to get an engine valve spring tester to see how much pressure it needs to compress. then find a good spring shop and tell them the diameter, height, and load you need.
also, perhaps a leather shift boot would be more flexible.

cajunsuzukispider · 01-18-2009, 08:50 PM

I've found the Thompson Register to be very very helpful and they have them at most major libraries.

Hvy_Chevy · 01-19-2009, 04:55 AM

I would take the current springs out, and just go to a regular hardware store first and see what they have.

skitime · 01-19-2009, 07:15 AM

So why don't you just put in the correct transmission oil? Both the transmission and transfer case calls for the rating GL4. Gear oil would be too thick. I switched my Tracker trans and transfer case over to synthetic Amsoil GL4 and the diffs to synthetic GL5 because it was so sluggish in cold weather. It now drives like it was warm outside.

Pietro · 01-19-2009, 02:46 PM

the shift boots on my yota tends to be very rigid at freezing temps

my tcase doubler won't even stay engaged until the cab warms up

I'd probably have someone make a shift boot for you from a softer material or possibly slide the boot further down the shifter handle and attach it with a hose clamp

maybe that will keep the boot from putting strain on the shift lever

I wouldn't change fluids as you are sacrificing cold lubrication of the tranny for a shift boot, doesn't make sense to me

raging squirrel · 01-22-2009, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skitime

So why don't you just put in the correct transmission oil? Both the transmission and transfer case calls for the rating GL4. Gear oil would be too thick. I switched my Tracker trans and transfer case over to synthetic Amsoil GL4 and the diffs to synthetic GL5 because it was so sluggish in cold weather. It now drives like it was warm outside.

the royal purple used IS the correct type. it too "drives" like it was warm outside. the resistance has been reduced to the point of the shifter being easier to pull out of gear, thus the problem with a cold shift boot( not cold oil). i may have to just turn the boot upside down so the shaft sealing end is close to the pivot point. or try a leather boot as someone suggested so my sandwich crumbs don't collect in an inverted boot.

01-10-2009, 11:11 AM	#1 (permalink)
raging squirrel Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Member # 126040 Location: Hudson, Wyo Posts: 610	tracker/kick 5 spd. shift detents&royal purple i decided to dump valvoline 75w90 synthetic in favor of royal purple since it flows better in sub zero weather and have come up with a side affect. the shifter now move a little too easily, that purple stuff must be awful slick. at temps below +30 the cold shift boot pulls it out of 2nd; 4th and reverse are affected too if it gets much colder. once heater warms shift boot problem is gone. this time of year i am in and out of truck all day so cab stays cold often (coyote hunter). is there a stiffer detent ball spring out there? i want to keep the royal purple diff juice.

01-19-2009, 04:55 AM	#5 (permalink)
Hvy_Chevy Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Oct 2002 Member # 14094 Location: Maine Posts: 4,465	I would take the current springs out, and just go to a regular hardware store first and see what they have. __________________ Size does matter. Leave the Zukes to those who really understand.

01-19-2009, 02:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
Pietro Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Member # 38563 Location: Waterboro, ME Posts: 2,466	the shift boots on my yota tends to be very rigid at freezing temps my tcase doubler won't even stay engaged until the cab warms up I'd probably have someone make a shift boot for you from a softer material or possibly slide the boot further down the shifter handle and attach it with a hose clamp maybe that will keep the boot from putting strain on the shift lever I wouldn't change fluids as you are sacrificing cold lubrication of the tranny for a shift boot, doesn't make sense to me __________________ 95' 4Runner with 5VZ engine WTB...winch bumper 84' M1031 CUCV 37's, 8kW gen

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01-18-2009, 07:33 PM	#2 (permalink)
raging squirrel Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Member # 126040 Location: Hudson, Wyo Posts: 610	no takers? surely someone in cold climate has experienced this.

01-18-2009, 08:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
cajunsuzukispider Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Member # 48911 Location: acworth, ga Posts: 1,924	I can only suggest to get an engine valve spring tester to see how much pressure it needs to compress. then find a good spring shop and tell them the diameter, height, and load you need. also, perhaps a leather shift boot would be more flexible.

01-18-2009, 08:50 PM	#4 (permalink)
cajunsuzukispider Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Member # 48911 Location: acworth, ga Posts: 1,924	I've found the Thompson Register to be very very helpful and they have them at most major libraries.

01-19-2009, 07:15 AM	#6 (permalink)
skitime Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Member # 126208 Posts: 21	So why don't you just put in the correct transmission oil? Both the transmission and transfer case calls for the rating GL4. Gear oil would be too thick. I switched my Tracker trans and transfer case over to synthetic Amsoil GL4 and the diffs to synthetic GL5 because it was so sluggish in cold weather. It now drives like it was warm outside.