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rockinranger62 · 09-04-2002, 08:04 AM

Im trying to decide on what to run for springs on my Blamurai (see sig. at bottom). I know i'm going 4-link but i'm torn between coils or airbags (can't afford coilovers). anyone have any experience w/ airbags off road? I know the scorpions run them with amazing results but was just curious to durability, and what not. Opinions suggestions?

NC Zuk · 09-04-2002, 08:24 AM

There are a few airbags that own sammies on this board

but as to your question of application of them to a Sammie, I have personally never seen one. Coils are becoming very popular (i'm installing mine soon) and there a lot of guys with custom creations lurking around here. There are a "few" coil kits available on the aftermarket as well. There is a thread on the board right now of sammie on coilovers with toy axles. But to answer your question, I just haven't seen any around.

I Lean · 09-04-2002, 08:37 AM

From what I've seen, airbags will cost as much or more than coilovers--unless you have a source for cheap used 'bags, or something. You can get coilover shocks for under $200, plus your springs.

Since you've already decided to go with a linked suspension, your options are limitless--1/4 or 1/2 elliptic leaf springs, transverse leaf springs, coil springs, coilover shocks, air bags......

lojones · 09-04-2002, 09:30 AM

Since its actually a chevy with only a sammi body the chevy board might be a better source for suspension details when it comes to spring rates and such..

NC Zuk · 09-04-2002, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lojones
Since its actually a chevy with only a sammi body the chevy board might be a better source for suspension details when it comes to spring rates and such..

I couldn't have said it better myself.

Rockrat · 09-04-2002, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by I Lean
From what I've seen, airbags will cost as much or more than coilovers--unless you have a source for cheap used 'bags, or something. You can get coilover shocks for under $200, plus your springs.

Since you've already decided to go with a linked suspension, your options are limitless--1/4 or 1/2 elliptic leaf springs, transverse leaf springs, coil springs, coilover shocks, air bags......

Your right you can get the shocks for around $200.00 but after you add up all the little bullshit and 2 springs per shock Bling Bling
an easy $500.00 per corner

rockinranger62 · 09-04-2002, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lojones
Since its actually a chevy with only a sammi body the chevy board might be a better source for suspension details when it comes to spring rates and such..

I realize that, but since all of the weight due to the samurai body will still be destributed the same as if it was on a samurai frame i figured yall could help me out better on rates and what not than those chevy guys whose trucks weigh several thousand pounds more than the super light sammy

The chevy frame is just longer and stronger. I plan on centering the body on the frame and mounting the motor very similarly to 350samurai's with the extended hood.

350samurai...where or what did your coils come from that would hold up the small block.

I Lean · 09-04-2002, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rockrat

Your right you can get the shocks for around $200.00 but after you add up all the little bullshit and 2 springs per shock Bling Bling
an easy $500.00 per corner

Shock: $199
2 coil springs: $43 each, $86
Spring stack spacer, $16.

Total, $301 per shock.

rockinranger62 · 09-04-2002, 02:33 PM

Lean, who did you get those prices from (store/manuf./racerunner?)

I Lean · 09-04-2002, 04:08 PM

Doetsch Tech, from RockLogic 4x4. (I know the guys there pretty well)

jones · 09-04-2002, 08:24 PM

These airbags seem to flex OK.

sacrebleu · 09-06-2002, 02:41 PM

Ben's LJ80

http://www.ottindustries.com/Suzuki_LJ80.html

shameless plug...
OTT makes good stuff... buy Canadian, eh?

Rockrat · 09-06-2002, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by I Lean

Shock: $199
2 coil springs: $43 each, $86
Spring stack spacer, $16.

Total, $301 per shock.

Your right i found the add shortly after posting and have emailed them about getting some only prob is they want me to weigh the front of the truck then the back to get proper weight springs
the dam things in pc.s sold athe axles and running gear so Ill be taken a stab in the dark

suspect · 09-07-2002, 12:30 AM

Bummer.........

bgreen · 09-08-2002, 01:59 PM

I Lean: do you know what dia those shocks prices are for?

I Lean · 09-08-2002, 07:46 PM

2.2" diameter shocks, they use 2.5" ID coils.

09-04-2002, 08:04 AM	#1 (permalink)
rockinranger62 Wheeler Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 10284 Location: Clemson, South Carolina Posts: 273	what springs? Im trying to decide on what to run for springs on my Blamurai (see sig. at bottom). I know i'm going 4-link but i'm torn between coils or airbags (can't afford coilovers). anyone have any experience w/ airbags off road? I know the scorpions run them with amazing results but was just curious to durability, and what not. Opinions suggestions? __________________ 06 Grand Cherokee as DD ------ 95 Ranger w/ many options--------- 19?? Samurai w/ toy power!

09-04-2002, 08:24 AM	#2 (permalink)
NC Zuk Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Member # 12060 Location: Somewhere in Afghanistan Posts: 2,129	There are a few airbags that own sammies on this board but as to your question of application of them to a Sammie, I have personally never seen one. Coils are becoming very popular (i'm installing mine soon) and there a lot of guys with custom creations lurking around here. There are a "few" coil kits available on the aftermarket as well. There is a thread on the board right now of sammie on coilovers with toy axles. But to answer your question, I just haven't seen any around. __________________ RIP MSG Art Lilley, you will never be forgotten...

09-04-2002, 08:37 AM	#3 (permalink)
I Lean Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 10 Location: Magna, UT Posts: 1,667	From what I've seen, airbags will cost as much or more than coilovers--unless you have a source for cheap used 'bags, or something. You can get coilover shocks for under $200, plus your springs. Since you've already decided to go with a linked suspension, your options are limitless--1/4 or 1/2 elliptic leaf springs, transverse leaf springs, coil springs, coilover shocks, air bags...... __________________ Carl Whitmore

09-04-2002, 09:30 AM	#4 (permalink)
lojones Wheeler Join Date: May 2002 Member # 12017 Location: Issaquah, WA Posts: 311	Since its actually a chevy with only a sammi body the chevy board might be a better source for suspension details when it comes to spring rates and such.. __________________ 79 CJ7 EFI401>th400>Atlas II 4.3> 60/14, 38.5 SX's, H1 beadlocks

09-04-2002, 02:33 PM	#9 (permalink)
rockinranger62 Wheeler Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 10284 Location: Clemson, South Carolina Posts: 273	Lean, who did you get those prices from (store/manuf./racerunner?) __________________ 06 Grand Cherokee as DD ------ 95 Ranger w/ many options--------- 19?? Samurai w/ toy power!

09-04-2002, 04:08 PM	#10 (permalink)
I Lean Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 10 Location: Magna, UT Posts: 1,667	Doetsch Tech, from RockLogic 4x4. (I know the guys there pretty well) __________________ Carl Whitmore

09-04-2002, 08:24 PM	#11 (permalink)
jones Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8687 Location: Vancouver Island B.C. Posts: 1,083	These airbags seem to flex OK.

09-06-2002, 02:41 PM	#12 (permalink)
sacrebleu Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Member # 9166 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 31	air bags Ben's LJ80 http://www.ottindustries.com/Suzuki_LJ80.html shameless plug... OTT makes good stuff... buy Canadian, eh?

09-07-2002, 12:30 AM	#14 (permalink)
suspect Rock God Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8672 Location: Crowbar motel cell #319 Posts: 1,892	Bummer......... __________________ Nothing on ebay Don't you hate it when you're getting a bj and just as you cum - she sneezes and it comes out her nose..... Quote: Originally Posted by ScottFJ40 V2.0 This country is so full of pussies, it smells like a tuna boat crashed into a codfishcake factory.

09-08-2002, 01:59 PM	#15 (permalink)
bgreen I'm on Team People Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 9801 Location: Kenai Alaska Posts: 2,347	I Lean: do you know what dia those shocks prices are for? __________________ Project Freak - Resurrection

09-08-2002, 07:46 PM	#16 (permalink)
I Lean Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 10 Location: Magna, UT Posts: 1,667	2.2" diameter shocks, they use 2.5" ID coils. __________________ Carl Whitmore

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