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Old 07-21-2011, 09:38 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Any updates? I have you 2 friggin days to work on it!!
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Old 07-22-2011, 08:32 AM   #52 (permalink)
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I have built the main sliders for the boatside, pulled the rear axle, and cleaned up the little things. Nothing really Eye popping to post about. I will post more when you can actually see the work getting done. Most Pirates can only read pictures.
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Old 08-08-2011, 12:02 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Alright. No building to update. Its been to hot and I went fishing, but here is the question.

I can get 85 toy truck axles front and rear for 200 bucks complete hub to hub. I know that some day I will go to a solid front axle when I break the IFS. Cheap parts at first doesn't necessarly mean cheap swap. I still have to do brackets and full hydro. I will never waste time building a leaf spring buggy again.

Buy the axles and store them till I break the IFS? Or just do the swap now. I would do 14" coils in the front. I am leaning towards....Do it now.
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Old 08-08-2011, 12:49 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Alright. No building to update. Its been to hot and I went fishing, but here is the question.

I can get 85 toy truck axles front and rear for 200 bucks complete hub to hub. I know that some day I will go to a solid front axle when I break the IFS. Cheap parts at first doesn't necessarly mean cheap swap. I still have to do brackets and full hydro. I will never waste time building a leaf spring buggy again.

Buy the axles and store them till I break the IFS? Or just do the swap now. I would do 14" coils in the front. I am leaning towards....Do it now.
Considering you will break the IFS the first time you take it out. you might aswell just do it now.


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Buy the axles, I still get to make the lower links.
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Solid axle is the way to go. I say do it.
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Old 08-09-2011, 07:19 AM   #57 (permalink)
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The front diff is the whole reason I sold my first Sidekick. I missed it so much bought another and did the toy axles. Extremely happy with it.

So X2 on the toy's but high speed will suffer.

I say toyota IFS it and total chaos kit with a rear 86 or newer rear housing and custom 4 link.
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Alright. No building to update. Its been to hot and I went fishing, but here is the question.

I can get 85 toy truck axles front and rear for 200 bucks complete hub to hub. I know that some day I will go to a solid front axle when I break the IFS. Cheap parts at first doesn't necessarly mean cheap swap. I still have to do brackets and full hydro. I will never waste time building a leaf spring buggy again.

Buy the axles and store them till I break the IFS? Or just do the swap now. I would do 14" coils in the front. I am leaning towards....Do it now.
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Old 08-15-2011, 07:24 AM   #59 (permalink)
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Got some work done this weekend. Very rough, but it is a start. I also welded up the tracker diff while I had it apart. I am going to play with this thing until I break the IFS or the rear axle. I still have not received the Toyota axles. I need to get some axle under the rear for mock up. I still don't know where I am going to mount the rear coil overs.





Main hoops are all 1 3/4 120 wall DOM.

Sliders are 2x4 1/4 wall.

The rear control arm will be the same material as the sliders. That is why the sliders are held short of the rear cab. The rocks will slide on the control arm. Guava will be making those so that they have multiple mounting locations for the coil overs.
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Old 08-22-2011, 01:24 PM   #60 (permalink)
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Need some help. I did search and there is a bunch of junk out there. These things came in all kinds of packages acrossed the globe.

I can't see any identifying marks on this thing, because it is covered in oil, sludge and grime.

91 Geo tracker. It is the upgraded package. Auto hubs, auto, and AC. What auto model and transfer case model? I know it is the 8v motor.

I have a feeling that I am going to have to rebuild all three of them. Thing has just been sitting for a month or two and is still bleeding like a stuck pig.
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Old 08-27-2011, 12:45 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Pulled the trigger. Started taking the IFS out of the rig and going with Toys front and rear. 5.29's Spool and spool with full hydro. Started thinking that this is way too much work to just redo it next spring with toys. Tons of parts for sale. Welded rear and complete IFS system for you in Colorado. Got another set of Free 14 Walker evan coil overs. No pictures, just gutting the shit out that I don't need.
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Disappointment. I was reallllly looking forward to seeing an Ifs buggy.. Ohh well....
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Pulled the trigger. Started taking the IFS out of the rig and going with Toys front and rear. 5.29's Spool and spool with full hydro. Started thinking that this is way too much work to just redo it next spring with toys. Tons of parts for sale. Welded rear and complete IFS system for you in Colorado. Got another set of Free 14 Walker evan coil overs. No pictures, just gutting the shit out that I don't need.
I would rethink the spools.

With such a short wheelbase spools are going to suck and make driving it suck.



if it was just a straight rock rig I would say go for it. but I'm shure your going to be doing every thing with it. spools blow for drivablity.
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I would rethink the spools.

With such a short wheelbase spools are going to suck and make driving it suck.



if it was just a straight rock rig I would say go for it. but I'm shure your going to be doing every thing with it. spools blow for drivablity.
I actually liked my spools (lincoln lockers) better than lockrights since I started doing it 10 yrs go. Depends on your outlook though, but a lockright with torque is a spool anyways.
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There is a tracker around here with 29" atv tires on it, narrowed body and cut fenders. Welded up the rear and it runs around with the atv crowd pretty well. The short tires let the front ifs live.
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Old 09-03-2011, 06:23 PM   #68 (permalink)
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This is will be my fourth tech question, so I am hoping for a better response. Am I seeing this correct? The radiator cools the motor and the auto tranny. There some lines running from the bottom of the radiator and heading to the back. I have a shit load of oil and crap under the rig, so I have not been able to get under there.

Front axle junk is out. I can't believe they installed the bolt for the lower control arm (DS) in front of the down pipes of the exaust manifold. Just torched it out of the sub frame. Sloppy fn mess.
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This is will be my fourth tech question, so I am hoping for a better response. Am I seeing this correct? The radiator cools the motor and the auto tranny. There some lines running from the bottom of the radiator and heading to the back. I have a shit load of oil and crap under the rig, so I have not been able to get under there.
Yes, that is correct..... start cleaning.


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DirtZuk, how is the clearance with the 9" in the rear?
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Old 09-07-2011, 06:55 AM   #71 (permalink)
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Here is the latest photos and updates. Not working too hard on it. I am doing about an hour a week or so on the project.

Sorry it won't stay IFS. You can now see the extent of the damage to the subframe. It was not really worth saving the IFS to begin with, but now it really isn't.

Here is a photo of the damaged cross member. This is where the driver side lower a-arm is supposed to be. You can see in the photo that it was bent back about an inch. So basically the IFS was really not worth saving. I have sourced some toyota axles.



You can see that I had to cut the sub frame out to get the a-arm to come out of the bracket. It bent back enough so that the bolt would not come out. It pushed it back into the down pipes of the exhaust.

Here is a photo of all the junk removed from the front. I must have a bag of 100lbs in bolts and nuts. I have plenty of room now to work. So much useless junk.

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Old 09-15-2011, 01:06 PM   #73 (permalink)
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Old 09-19-2011, 07:40 AM   #74 (permalink)
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These axles are heavier than I remember. I picked up some cheap labor from Guava Axle Services LLC.

There must have been about 10lbs of oil and junk stuck to these axles.

Little hotsy and they are ready for some cutting and torching. Picked these up for $100 bones.



Setting the wheel base. This is 101" I think I will end up being around 105 when done. I have completely gone the wrong direction from what I originally planned.



It looks like I will be able to have about 5-6 inches of uptravel in the front and miles in the rear.

We cut the gas tank out and put it on top of the rear frame to keep it out of the way. Once I get the gas tank welded in, I will cut the back half of the frame off.
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They look alot better without all that dam grease on em. Looking good Dan.
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