AVHC Lifter Mount Bracket on 2x2 2x4 4x4 - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

JohnC · 02-24-2012, 10:06 AM

Guys with the growth series, how is your AVHC Lifter Station mounted? This is the only way mine fits with the brackets supplied. The problem is that now I only have 22.4" of travel. I think I need to trash the TM mounts and build my own to turn the lift station 90 degrees and mount the back of it directly to the gantry.

Speed_Freak_039A · 02-24-2012, 10:13 AM

Im on my phone but that looks like how mine is mounted and i get the full 24x24

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JohnC · 02-24-2012, 10:46 AM

The way mine is mounted, I can only get 22.4 of travel across the gantry before the torch hits on the left, or the back of the lifter station hits on the right.

ZJunderconst · 02-24-2012, 12:03 PM

You can raise the AVHC on the mounting bracket, it's slotted. It will get you real close to 24". However, when running the machine at higher speed doing anything with a lot of direction change, you will get some "flex" in the torch. Which leads to "saw tooth" edges on your cuts. At least for me it did.

mechanicalmongoose20 · 02-24-2012, 12:25 PM

Find Jim Colts thread where he made his own mount, but from the pretty side. And there was another thread not long ago where they made a bracket to lower the mount to cut down on deflection, (this one have the lifter station 90 to how you have it mounted.)

Good luck.

glosasso · 02-24-2012, 12:50 PM

I have a 4x4 mine mounts right on the gantry why dont you ditch that 90degree bracket and.mount.it right on the gantry

jdh239 · 02-24-2012, 01:31 PM

I drilled new holes in the bracket (mounted in the same direction as yours) and after making my tweaks I can cut 24x48 with plasma. z-axis is another story.

JohnC · 02-24-2012, 01:42 PM

I agree with all the comments about redoing the bracketry. I'm going to fab my own mounts this weekend. Just disappointed that it doesn't work "out of the box".

invader28 · 02-24-2012, 01:42 PM

Looks like your using your manual torch bracket when you should mount the AVHC direct.

Dnmeistr · 02-24-2012, 01:49 PM

The large back plate uses 4 allen head screws to attach it, you can disguard the 90 deg bracket and mount the lifter station to the backing plate, pull two of the existing screws out of the large backing plate and use the bolt holes, you will need to provide slightly longer allen head screws to mount it.

JohnC · 02-24-2012, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZJunderconst

You can raise the AVHC on the mounting bracket, it's slotted. It will get you real close to 24". However, when running the machine at higher speed doing anything with a lot of direction change, you will get some "flex" in the torch. Which leads to "saw tooth" edges on your cuts. At least for me it did.

I just slid the lifter station all the way up in the slots. Still collides when jogged all the way to the right.

And what was .050" of slop is now closer to .100" due to the torch being slid further down in the lift station clamps.

Quote:

Originally Posted by invader28

Looks like your using your manual torch bracket when you should mount the AVHC direct.

Looks like it, but this is the bracket they supplied with the AVHC. I called tech support, and they confirmed this is the "right" bracket.

JohnC · 02-24-2012, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dnmeistr

The large back plate uses 4 allen head screws to attach it, you can disguard the 90 deg bracket and mount the lifter station to the backing plate, pull two of the existing screws out of the large backing plate and use the bolt holes, you will need to provide slightly longer allen head screws to mount it.

Cool, I will try this! Thanks!

jdh239 · 02-24-2012, 02:09 PM

Mine would collide too. Drilled holes higher up on the bracket and it works.

I too was disappointed that it didn't work out of the box as it should have.

Zydenet · 02-24-2012, 03:13 PM

Looks like yours is on the opposite side of the braket then mine. Will check when I get home but I get the full 24"x48" out of the box.

JohnC · 02-24-2012, 04:06 PM

Big thanks to Jake in Torchmate Tech Support! He just called and addressed each problem I'm having. He's sending me out replacement parts and assured me that we'd get this taken care of!

North Shore Fab · 02-25-2012, 11:06 AM

soooo they send the wrong part or operator error??

S1036s · 02-25-2012, 11:32 AM

sending him a whole new unit... time will tell

jdh239 · 02-25-2012, 01:10 PM

They sent me a replacement part too, but it didn't work. They assembled my avhc backwards (like yours). It can be switched around, but I didn't bother (the back plate is what has been flipped 180 degrees). I just chucked the replacement bracket as it didn't work anyway. Modified the current one to fit my needs.

JohnC · 02-25-2012, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by North Shore Fab

soooo they send the wrong part or operator error??

The lift station I originally received is bad. They're replacing it. The bracket they insist is correct, but it's a crappy design. I'll be redoing it myself.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdh239

They sent me a replacement part too, but it didn't work. They assembled my avhc backwards (like yours). It can be switched around, but I didn't bother (the back plate is what has been flipped 180 degrees). I just chucked the replacement bracket as it didn't work anyway. Modified the current one to fit my needs.

Nice. I hope the replacement they're sending me does the trick.

02-24-2012, 10:06 AM	#1 (permalink)
JohnC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Member # 3310 Location: WA Posts: 977	AVHC Lifter Mount Bracket on 2x2 2x4 4x4 Guys with the growth series, how is your AVHC Lifter Station mounted? This is the only way mine fits with the brackets supplied. The problem is that now I only have 22.4" of travel. I think I need to trash the TM mounts and build my own to turn the lift station 90 degrees and mount the back of it directly to the gantry.

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mechanicalmongoose20 Who took my cake? Join Date: Sep 2008 Member # 120626 Location: Mooresville, Indiana Posts: 1,524	Find Jim Colts thread where he made his own mount, but from the pretty side. And there was another thread not long ago where they made a bracket to lower the mount to cut down on deflection, (this one have the lifter station 90 to how you have it mounted.) Good luck. __________________ "Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." Last edited by mechanicalmongoose20; 02-24-2012 at 12:26 PM.

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02-24-2012, 10:13 AM	#2 (permalink)
Speed_Freak_039A Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Member # 166674 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 565	Im on my phone but that looks like how mine is mounted and i get the full 24x24 Sent from my SCH-I510 using Tapatalk

02-24-2012, 10:46 AM	#3 (permalink)
JohnC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Member # 3310 Location: WA Posts: 977	The way mine is mounted, I can only get 22.4 of travel across the gantry before the torch hits on the left, or the back of the lifter station hits on the right.

02-24-2012, 12:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
ZJunderconst Wheeler Join Date: May 2005 Member # 47407 Location: Western, NY Posts: 292	You can raise the AVHC on the mounting bracket, it's slotted. It will get you real close to 24". However, when running the machine at higher speed doing anything with a lot of direction change, you will get some "flex" in the torch. Which leads to "saw tooth" edges on your cuts. At least for me it did.

02-24-2012, 12:50 PM	#6 (permalink)
glosasso Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Member # 170537 Posts: 141	I have a 4x4 mine mounts right on the gantry why dont you ditch that 90degree bracket and.mount.it right on the gantry

02-24-2012, 01:31 PM	#7 (permalink)
jdh239 Cold Creek Works Join Date: Mar 2009 Member # 132992 Posts: 1,239	I drilled new holes in the bracket (mounted in the same direction as yours) and after making my tweaks I can cut 24x48 with plasma. z-axis is another story.

02-24-2012, 01:42 PM	#8 (permalink)
JohnC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Member # 3310 Location: WA Posts: 977	I agree with all the comments about redoing the bracketry. I'm going to fab my own mounts this weekend. Just disappointed that it doesn't work "out of the box".

02-24-2012, 01:49 PM	#10 (permalink)
Dnmeistr Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Member # 115338 Posts: 418	The large back plate uses 4 allen head screws to attach it, you can disguard the 90 deg bracket and mount the lifter station to the backing plate, pull two of the existing screws out of the large backing plate and use the bolt holes, you will need to provide slightly longer allen head screws to mount it.

02-24-2012, 02:09 PM	#13 (permalink)
jdh239 Cold Creek Works Join Date: Mar 2009 Member # 132992 Posts: 1,239	Mine would collide too. Drilled holes higher up on the bracket and it works. I too was disappointed that it didn't work out of the box as it should have.

02-24-2012, 04:06 PM	#15 (permalink)
JohnC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Member # 3310 Location: WA Posts: 977	Big thanks to Jake in Torchmate Tech Support! He just called and addressed each problem I'm having. He's sending me out replacement parts and assured me that we'd get this taken care of!

02-25-2012, 11:06 AM	#16 (permalink)
North Shore Fab Rock God Join Date: Mar 2011 Member # 184847 Posts: 1,127	soooo they send the wrong part or operator error??

02-25-2012, 11:32 AM	#17 (permalink)
S1036s Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Member # 83940 Posts: 173	sending him a whole new unit... time will tell

02-25-2012, 01:10 PM	#18 (permalink)
jdh239 Cold Creek Works Join Date: Mar 2009 Member # 132992 Posts: 1,239	They sent me a replacement part too, but it didn't work. They assembled my avhc backwards (like yours). It can be switched around, but I didn't bother (the back plate is what has been flipped 180 degrees). I just chucked the replacement bracket as it didn't work anyway. Modified the current one to fit my needs.