My new tow pig thred..

[angryblack]

Not much of an update on the build..Between buying a used trailer to haul my junk, and the trucks second oil change under my ownership.

I do have a tow report..Decided to go wheeling with a member here and loaded up the chevy to rausch creek..Being as this truck only has a few more hp to wheels than my uhual did but does have more torque, i didnt expect much.The only mods to the uhual were the soup bowl mod,2 1/4 exhuast with twin two chamber series 40 flowmasters with 3" outlets. Into a 3" to 4" flowmaster merge collector finally dumping into a used freightliner 5" stack. There are a few grades id worry about and the uhual would slow to 30 mph toting the chevy and pulling the camper.(cant say the weight as i never scaled it). One grade at I 80 is 4 1/2% and about 5 miles long.Id use the EGT gauge as i went up and couldnt muster a lick past 35 mph here..

New truck scales at 21700 gross broken down to 5020lbs on teh steer axle, 8080 on the drive axle and the trailer at 8600.. On the way out to the park i ran 50 mph most of the way but where the old truck would struggle at 35 mph i could run 45 mph with my foot just above the floor. At the big long grade i ran up at 50-53 mph but did watch the temps climb to 210*..Outside temp had a lot to do with this as it was noticably cooler..About midway through the grade it got just below 230* so i promptly pulled over flipped the hood and got the garden sprayer and got it back down to 180* where it normally runs..Hit the road and didnt have to do it again..

On the way back it was a lot warmer and we finally hit the road after stopping by tractor supply to get a trailer jack.Definitely warm outside the truck ran between 190 and 230 the whole time..The shitty IH half rad half charge cooler is killing me as i expected..It just cant dissipate the thermal energy fast enough Running that hot i had to pull over about 8 times to let the truck cool off..But the ambient temps were about 20-25* hotter. A few things i noticed that i have to change is for one the half assed rad..I NEED A REAL RAD IN THE TRUCK. Mutha fawkin pronto.Also the LPX hood line is really really lower than the standard 4700 hood and that takes away the room atop the engine.This thing is crammed with a turbo atop it, thick foamish insulation on the bottom side of the hood, and the inner fenders are tighter to the frame only leaving about 3" of airspace. The uhual has so much more room and no turbo coupling that with a full size rad i can see why i couldnt keep the truck cool..

So I have a few hurdles.Some i expected and touched at the start of my thread.The size of the rad. Im not sure if the LPX rad is smaller then the standard 4700 rad so im gonna look into that..If its the same rad then the swap is easy as getting a 91 4700 idi/auto rad..Lucky for me we have just the same truck at the day job.As well as some turbo half rad trucks with regular hood so i can measure..

If not ive gotta talk my a local rad shop i used to see if he can recore my tanks all the way across.Other possibilities are looking at what the 8100 trucks run when they have the cummins M11 engine..I almost bough one of these but i passed on it..Too many issues with the truck as i was told via the phone convo with its owner.I know my truck shares the same hood but the cab on the 8100 sits higher than mine does..

Or the last straw would be putting a pink thong on and hitting the village to hustle up enough cash for one big assed aluminum rad..

That leaves the issue of the charge air cooler, intercooler whateva you wanna call it.When i got the truck before i saw it i decided to remount it behind the bumper..This was going from the stance of my uhual ironically being a Low Pro truck sitting about 6" higher from the ground..New truck i swear damn near seems slammed in comparison. The factory crappy bumper is 8" from the ground..Im not a fan of big guady front bumpers and i can only see a FMI having to lay horizontally with a curved inlet directing air from below the cooler upwards through it then allowing that to flow into the front grill opening..Thus id have some sorta concrete truck looking thingy thats heavy and huge. Then i thought of mounting it above the engine ALA FC rx7 or the wrx subie..Soaking up a shit ton of heat. After having this look at the table as we ate dinner like i Sharted myself(Just the facial expression of turning away such a stupid idea) I remember Rooster posting a pic of an 8100 in his build thread..The truck had what appeared to be a crappy bolt on roof fairing.. Mutha fawking bingo..Why not cut most of that off and mount the cooler above the roof, Using something sorta expanded metal but much more nicer looking to guard it.Run the tubing down the rear sides of the cab and paint them..Then snake them under the cab..It would be a good time to get a larger(longer) unit as well.So thats where i am right now.

After this is all sorted out over the next few months i will continue to run it slow and steady but will ghetto fab a water misting setup on the rad..As well as get some AC coil cleaner to be sure the core of the rad is free flowing and clean.. Im toying with the idea of meth injection but i was always told thats to combat EGTS and boost power.While its a good thing my intimidate issue is an undersized rad.

In between this i plan on getting the hot water heater fully installed as well as the sink and the remote shower hookups..One mud hole reminded me why i stay away from the stuff unless im visiting family in Jamaica or D.R.Walking into tractor supply looking like a swampn and smelling like week old muddy leaves is not my bag.

[MT4Runner]

That sucks about the temp issues. I hope a fullsize rad and relocated intercooler does the trick.


about the new engine power, though!

[Bustin Loose]

Originally Posted by angryblack

Or the last straw would be putting a pink thong on and hitting the village to hustle up enough cash for one big assed aluminum rad..

Hmm, how much is the radiator? Can you do electrical work in a pink thong? Will your wife kill me or can the two of us sit in chairs and watch while you work? I can take care of myself.

Originally Posted by angryblack

In between this i plan on getting the hot water heater fully installed as well as the sink and the remote shower hookups..One mud hole reminded me why i stay away from the stuff unless im visiting family in Jamaica or D.R.Walking into tractor supply looking like a swampn and smelling like week old muddy leaves is not my bag.

The guy that owns this rooming house just came back from the DR. He told me I should move there, I'd live like a queen on my disability. I told him sure, til Soc Sec found out I lived there.

Oh and just a thought, if you were muddy and leafy like that wearing tight jeans(not those gawdawful gangsta bags wtf), work boots and a flannel looking shirt or nice fitting T the general consensus would be how manly you looked and quite possibly how long it would take to wash all that off you. Fuck what insecure males think. That's why we don't sleep with them and they think bad things out of frustration. Just my 2 beads worth.

[46/71 Hybrid]

Originally Posted by Bustin Loose

Oh and just a thought, if you were muddy and leafy like that wearing tight jeans(not those gawdawful gangsta bags wtf), work boots and a flannel looking shirt or nice fitting T the general consensus would be how manly you looked and quite possibly how long it would take to wash all that off you. Fuck what insecure males think. That's why we don't sleep with them and they think bad things out of frustration. Just my 2 beads worth.

I think I love you (don't tell my wife though).

[Bustin Loose]

Originally Posted by 46/71 Hybrid

I think I love you (don't tell my wife though).

I had you up on a pedestal til you choked on those pics of your converted cruiser. Cough em up before I come up there and tie knots in your meat whistle!

[angryblack]

Originally Posted by MT4Runner

That sucks about the temp issues. I hope a fullsize rad and relocated intercooler does the trick.


about the new engine power, though!

I am thinking im on the right track..Ive made the trip 20 miles short of the park to get to harrys u pull it and it was fine.I drive it everyday and beat the snot out of it in NYC and its never ran hot..But at 21k im almost twice as heavy.

Originally Posted by Bustin Loose

Hmm, how much is the radiator? Can you do electrical work in a pink thong? Will your wife kill me or can the two of us sit in chairs and watch while you work? I can take care of myself.





The guy that owns this rooming house just came back from the DR. He told me I should move there, I'd live like a queen on my disability. I told him sure, til Soc Sec found out I lived there.

Oh and just a thought, if you were muddy and leafy like that wearing tight jeans(not those gawdawful gangsta bags wtf), work boots and a flannel looking shirt or nice fitting T the general consensus would be how manly you looked and quite possibly how long it would take to wash all that off you. Fuck what insecure males think. That's why we don't sleep with them and they think bad things out of frustration. Just my 2 beads worth.

Nah my old lady would sit back with The "S" and shoot the shitt with you while i worked.But i dont think id look to hot in a thing.lol

But the Rad is looking like 1000 bucks used and i have found some cheap as 500.. I started asking for the 8100 rad so that may have a lot to do with it. Gonna take some time tonight and look for the IDI 4700 auto tranny rad.

[RoosterBooster]

Originally Posted by angryblack

But the Rad is looking like 1000 bucks used and i have found some cheap as 500.. I started asking for the 8100 rad so that may have a lot to do with it. Gonna take some time tonight and look for the IDI 4700 auto tranny rad.

too bad that your on the wrong coast

it looks like im going to have a bunch of IDI parts left over soon ... i would make you a good deal on the radiator

[46/71 Hybrid]

It'll involve some fab which I'm sure you can handle but when i was looking at rads for my S1600 (Uhaul), I was caught up on the price too. My solution was to go to Autozone, get behind the counter, and look at the biggest rads they had. For our 1600's, they had something for an F350 or an F450 that was approximately the same size and it was only ~$325. My memory is fuzzy since it was a full 2 years ago but I'm certain the price was lower than $400 and I'm certain it was almost the same size as the Int'l radiator. In my case, my rad stopped the slow leak that it had and I didn't have to buy anything.

In case that doesn't work, maybe you can get behind the counter of a heavy truck parts shop and do the same thing? I'm sure most folks here have had the experience where a nearly identical part might cost 2x more just because it's "the" part for a big name truck whereas the same part in a different part number is much cheaper for a smaller name truck.

[Bustin Loose]

Originally Posted by RoosterBooster

it looks like im going to have a bunch of IDI parts left over soon ... i would make you a good deal on the radiator

Like what?

[angryblack]

Originally Posted by RoosterBooster

too bad that your on the wrong coast

it looks like im going to have a bunch of IDI parts left over soon ... i would make you a good deal on the radiator

UPS is everywhere..As long as it has the auto tranny ports at the bottom i will buy it..IIRC from glancing at them they are standard JIC -8 male fittings..

Im gonna try to walk a long island yard this weekend and see what i can find..

For now just to be sure its not the tons of soot we had flying around the parking lot at my jobs old location ive got some coil cleaner to clean the rad..

[angryblack]

Took some time to get the shower panel installed by the rear entry door..The shower head will fit up above me while i stand up..Just have to buy a shower tent..

Also settled on the rear wall to mount the hot water heater..ITs within easy reach from the sink and the shower box..The rear wall will be sealed completely from the cabin and will be used for storage of the trucks bottle jack, some folding directors chairs, extension cords etc etc..I will have to add a louvered panel with a filter for fresh air and route the vent to the roof for the heater..

Hopefully i can get all the little fittings and lines by the middle of may and have some sorta water running..Then looks like june will be the black water tank and crapper..

[mrstang01]

What size radiator are you needing? Autozone has one for the Super duty's 30 1/8 by 23 5/8 x 2 3/16 for less than $300.

[Gravy]

Looks like a lot of hard work.
Thanks for sharing

[angryblack]

So its kinda of a bad update..

I noticed some cracking in the paint by the tail lights and figured somebody bumped me parking. Then we had a heavy rain and and i noticed water inside the cabin.As well as my rear window's fiberglass work cracked..

I noticed that now i had some cracking in the gell coat and paint in a lot of places and the horizontal side door doesnt close tight as it was..

I called the body manufacture and emailed a guy there some pics.. He called me back and explained to me that the body wasnt designed to have the window holes cut out DUH and the body was built thin to save weigh thus it will flop around when the truck hits bumps.

The roof outer edges are specced at 1/4" thick and the center is an 1/8".
Only the rear and front walls ae structural too..

So after thinking it over im gonna keep finishing the box since im a good ways done but ive gotta start figuring out something better. The tech recommends that i spray the roof with a rubberized sealer and then the rear of the truck with a bedliner sprayed on..We both think this will help the box survive without further issues..

Hopefully next month i can have some extra cash to start on the plumbing..Locally that PEX stuff is pricey. Its not used much here in the city and im gonna do all the plumbing and get some water running..

Gooing to get some carpet padding down in the cab floor and some cheap carpet too..I had to rip the rubber mat to remove the center floor section.Had a tranny cooler line blow a leak by rubbing on the factory clamp under the converter housing..Lucky for me i had a -10 6 foot long hose in my work van from an old trash compactor..Instead of running it down around and under the trans and engine i ran it atop the passenger side frame rail..

[Bustin Loose]

Originally Posted by angryblack

So its kinda of a bad update..

I noticed some cracking in the paint by the tail lights and figured somebody bumped me parking. Then we had a heavy rain and and i noticed water inside the cabin.As well as my rear window's fiberglass work cracked..

That sucks AB. I hope things improve with the ideas you and the manufacturer came up with. Short of taking out the window, rebuilding that wall and sealing some structural ribs in to close and support where the hole was I'm clueless regarding fabbing fiberass.

[angryblack]

Yeah hopefully it will work out..I talked with a buddy who does construction and he thinks it will be better when all the framework is tied together and braced..

I pulled the seats out and layed down a few layers of jute backing and one layer of foam padding..Then put some cheap indoor outdoor carpet. Covering the doghouse cover was a task as i was in a rush and used cheap spray glue..But if i ever need to pull the carpet up and remove the floor cover it should be a snap.

I guess its no more dropping black and mild ashes on the floor

[87manche]

Originally Posted by angryblack

I guess its no more dropping black and mild ashes on the floor

way to further the stereotype.

Do you freak them as well?

[Bustin Loose]

*IF* the trucks that became our UHauls are similar to yours(which I assume they are) I now see why UHaul moved the parking brake under the dash. That nasty bench seat would never have fit with the parking brake in the center of the floor.

Matt and I were looking at a plate with 4 bolts in the floor in about the same location your parking brake is sitting and after he described for me what it looked like the bolts went into I decided to not have him remove the plate. I'll figure out a way to pad it so the bolt heads won't cut holes into whatever floor covering I put down.

[angryblack]

Originally Posted by 87manche

way to further the stereotype.

Do you freak them as well?

LOL nah. I think they call that chafing in ny..But if it helps you feel any better outside of the HK i do prefer the chopper(AK47) of any other gun..Well then again im lucky enough to have owned a sig 556 too..That was fun..


BL.

I do need to one day move the e brake..I see myself tripping over it when i walk to the back of the truck..I never had the mat in my uhualer exposed.. I always wondered if the floor came out in the center like the newer trucks..

If i had the patients(too much life troubles with the family right now) Id get some hd carpet glue then remove the floor panels..Glue the jute backing down to then and then glue the carpet atop that..Pop all the bolt holes out.Do the same with the sides of the floor too..Then use some fancy smancy button head or pan head screws to reinstally them..You will see the bolts when your done but then you wont have to pull up carpet.Just unbolt and rock on..I mean my doghouse had to be done like that so it seems better in the long run.

[Bustin Loose]

Originally Posted by angryblack

I do need to one day move the e brake..I see myself tripping over it when i walk to the back of the truck..I never had the mat in my uhualer exposed.. I always wondered if the floor came out in the center like the newer trucks..

I've got a ton of pics of the floor, some I've posted and a bunch I haven't. Feel free to check them out and if you want a different angle I'll take it for you. The floor is going to be exposed for awhile. I know that where the parking brake used to be there is a plate now with a hole under it. There's nothing like a section of floor that comes up.

Maybe that pink thong will solve your family issues. I know it would distract me enough to not be a flaming bitch. Okay well maybe it wouldn't be the color I was looking at.

Now that I think about it I should have just asked you and manche my battery and charger questions instead of posting them in the electrical section. There's tomfoolery going on in my thread there.

[pennsylvaniaboy]

Angry, what is you plan for title and tags in PA? rv status or what?

[MT4Runner]

Got pics of the fiberglass cracking?

Did you taper/ramp the existing glass down to nothing, same on the patch/filler, and the glass you laid on the seam should have filled up the vee?

If edges of the existing and filler are square, you have a "stress riser" where it's stiff right up to the edge of the seam, and the seam can't help but crack.

[angryblack]

Originally Posted by pennsylvaniaboy

Angry, what is you plan for title and tags in PA? rv status or what?

I dont register anything in pa..I live in NY and all my companeis as well as all the property we own ig in ga..So everything is registered in Ga with NY addresses..Ga requires an inspection but lucky for me i have friends at the Tag office and the guy that does the conversion inspections shares some of the same Lifestyle exercises that i do.So it was easy peasy.

Originally Posted by MT4Runner

Got pics of the fiberglass cracking?

Did you taper/ramp the existing glass down to nothing, same on the patch/filler, and the glass you laid on the seam should have filled up the vee?

If edges of the existing and filler are square, you have a "stress riser" where it's stiff right up to the edge of the seam, and the seam can't help but crack.

Most of the cracking is in the original structure of the body..There is one panel that is a repair that was done before i got the truck.Mostly down the sides of the body below the drivers side window as well and the drivers side rear by the tail lights..

I started looking harder for a small square box to build but im coming up with nill for a 10-12x 7' tall box.Without buying new..

A friend that is looking just found a guy with a peterbilt 63" sleeper for 500 bucks not to far..So i could end up installing that squeezing a porta potty in there and the small fridge i have and building a small 4' bed behind that after i move the rear axle back 23".I could always get some long term storage for the hippo body and build a strong trailer frame for it.Sell that off to a hunter, guy needing a crash pad for a remote jobsite or so forth..

If all else fails i will do a rough finish on the glass box inside and rock it till i find the right standard box.. My fear is that now with all the framework bolted to this glass box i have stiffened it up too much and its tearing itself apart during the rough city driving..I will have to get some pics but the floor cross members are aluminum channel that is just glassed into the floor surface..The box isnt that sturdy either.. We have to remember that i cut out the rear vertical door opening that had a wall there basically making it a outside closet.Now its a pass through section, plus ive cut two windows into the side walls, a roof vent and a vent for the stove fan.On top of that ive got a bunch of wood glued and bolted to the roof and side walls.. They designed the box to carry fluid tanks supported off the floor and spray equipment supported off the floor.So maybe ive overbuilt the box with considering the weak side walls and flew built into the structure.

I mean im at the point of needing a black water tank soe lines and hoses run then finish wall panels..Other than a fold up bed the truck will be done..So if the manufacture thinks it may hold without a severe crack in the box it may be viable to spend the est 1200 needed to finish it and rock on..

I guess with the divorce,damn jackass trying to knock my head off to rob me,as well as other crap im just taking a break and letting it work itself out slowly.

[MT4Runner]

You probably need to float/air ride the cab/box like RoosterBooster is doing.

The flimsy butting up to stiff is definitely going to tear things up at the junctions.

[Bustin Loose]

I wish you all the best with everything AB.