2000 f250 psd 2wd + 30' gooseneck ?

[mtbrjon]

I searched and couldn't get enough info....I have a 2000 psd f250 2wd 6spd tow rig. Have been using 18' open trailer bumper pull. Want to tow 2 rigs (toyotas) so thinking of a 30' (or so) open gooseneck. I thought I would need a dually but i've seen others and from what I read my truck should work ok. Anyone using similar setup? Pros, cons, suggestions? I haven't done any mods to my truck so i'll likely go ahead with programmer, exh. and intake just to help in the power department mostly concerned with handling and such.

[TR]

the length shouldnt bother you its just how much weight you are going to put on it. btw is it a extra cab crew cab short bed or long bed?

[mtbrjon]

Ex cab short bed. 2 rigs will probably be 6 -6.5 k lbs. I'll also want to make a built in tool box and spares box with total weight of box, tools and spares around 700lbs.

[pmurf1]

If the truck in your signature is one of them and the other one is comperable, your load is going to be at least 7k, if not 8k+ if you carry tools and spare parts. My toy based buggy with tools is 3500#, but I don't have two winches or any body. Add the 700# of other tools, plus the 5000# plus of gooseneck trailer, and you're pulling a pretty good load, probably 12k by the time is all said and done. I don't know if you pull a lot of hills in TN, but that would be a hell of a load out here in AZ on the 6% grades. It'll tow it fine especially with some minor motor mods like exhaust and chip and gauges. Just be sure to keep good E rated plus tires on the truck and brakes on the trailer axles.

[dumass]

Originally Posted by mtbrjon

I thought I would need a dually but i've seen others and from what I read my truck should work ok.

Maybe Jeeptrash will post up his opinion on towing with single rear wheels. iirc it involves crossing 6 lanes of traffic after a blowout and then getting a real tow rig.

Kerry you out there?

[weps]

That truck will work JUST FINE as it is. Hell, you're better powered than probably 1/2 of what is draggin stuff down the road.
BTW my 36' tri-axle gooseneck trailer is 4130, and I pull it and 2 rigs with a 460.

[mtbrjon]

Originally Posted by dumass

Maybe Jeeptrash will post up his opinion on towing with single rear wheels. iirc it involves crossing 6 lanes of traffic after a blowout and then getting a real tow rig.

Kerry you out there?

That's what scares me. Not enough safety net when you only have 2 rear tires. btw-What's a "real" tow rig?

[TurboDiesel444]

I'm guessing by "real" tow rig, he means one with training wheels, ie. a dually.

[mtbrjon]

Originally Posted by TurboDiesel444

I'm guessing by "real" tow rig, he means one with training wheels, ie. a dually.

The more I think about it the more i'm convinced that barely enough won't cut it for towing this much weight considering my wife and only child will likely be in the rig with me. I have a few months before the second trail rig will be finished....think i'll start shopping for a "real" tow rig. Ought to be able to find a nice 97 f350 crew cab diesel $10-$15k. Won't be my daily driver so fuel economy and driving that beast in daily traffic won't be an issue. Anybody got 1 of these to sell?

[jackedupjimmy]

ebay is loaded with 250's, 350's in texas

[ddestruel]

SRW is fine. Dually is nicer.

How much wieght you plan on putting ont he pin and loading onto those tires. Tires rarely blow and typically are provoked, hit a curb bust a few belts what ever. i hauled a 24' GN w/12 ballhitch behind that with a SRW tow rig for quite a few miles in excess of 20k lbs behind the truck i had a few blow outs on my drive tires on the truck and most of the time it was my fault because i was over the load rating of the tires.

if you blow a steer axle tire it can be mildly exciting but the drive axle tires only increase the pucker factor mildly

[DRM]

You'll be fine... if it was a 30' bumper pull, I would feel different, but a goose will be ok with what you are talking about on a SRW. I wouldn't hesitate to pull that with my SRW Dodge.

[tators]

If your worried about tires you can always put those 19.5 conversion tire & rims on it... Load range f,g or H...

http://www.ricksontruck.com/

[Tim84K10]

There is no way to pull a heavy gooseneck with a 3/4 ton without busting the GVWR, if you care.

You really should have a dually for towing two rigs. You're pretty likely to have 15,000+ lbs behind you, too. I'd say most setups with two rigs on them are too heavy for any pickup, but I could be wrong.

[mtbrjon]

Damn ya'l. It looks like i'm either fawked or completely ok depending which post you pick. Anybody know of a site that pertains exclusively to trailering and safe loads and such?

[ramv]

Originally Posted by mtbrjon

Damn ya'l. It looks like i'm either fawked or completely ok depending which post you pick. Anybody know of a site that pertains exclusively to trailering and safe loads and such?

Welcome to PBB.

www.thedieselstop.com offers a lot of Ford info but one mod is a complete idiot who thinks he know everything about towing.

Probably some rv sites would be better.

I have towed my 34' bumper pull with two rigs behind an '02 Excursion, no issues, although the rear suspension felt soft (the Ex is very under sprung) with two rigs. It tows much better behind the dually though. We went bumper pull to not exceed the GVWR of the tow rig, (most 3/4 tons can tow it without exceeding any weight, as long as the trailer is loaded less then the hitch is rated to. The new dually is nice with the 15k bumper pull hitch stock)

The big problem with the '05 dually is with a 13k GVWR, and the trailer with a 14k GVWR, in the wrong state on the wrong day, it may not be legal. Much more legal behind a truck with 12kor less GVWR.