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Old 12-31-2005, 07:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Cummins powerd school bus?

Any of you guys know if any school manufactures made a short school bus w/ a cummins. I'm playing w/ the idea of a tow rig/ rv type of build up. Maybe rockwells and 44's for cruisin glamis later Any one done this or have any input?
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Old 12-31-2005, 09:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I bought a short bus a few months ago, to use as a tow rig/rv for my jeep.

If you're looking for a 5.9 cummins, you'll find a lot of Blue Bird buses that are equipped with them. Unfortunately most of them are the flat-nose buses, and you might be looking for something a bit shorter than that, older than that, or more of a "conventional" type. International provided chassis for some 4x4 buses. These generally have diesels (7.3) or gas (345).

Most short buses are going to have gas engines or ford & international diesels. Dunno about the larger cummins - 8.3 is it? - so, sorry if thats what you're looking for. Older ones (pre 80's) will be all gas (my ford has a 390).

One thing to keep in mind, my short bus (1970 superior body, on a ford frame - less than 20 feet long, 2 inches shorter than my x-cab longbed F-250) weighs 17,600 pounds (This is what I was told by the tow truck driver - I haven't gotten it weighed yet). I expect that fully loaded, wet weight, with jeep in tow it will be pulling about 25k, assuming that 17k was accurate.

I want to do a cummins swap eventually (beyond my budget right now).
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Old 01-01-2006, 11:56 AM   #3 (permalink)
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How does it tow? Does it have a gasser or the 7.3? Would you do it again?
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Old 01-01-2006, 01:35 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I know alot of the flat nosed blue birds run 3208 cat turbodiesels with allison trannies, I love the cummins for a P/U truck, but for pulling 10tons, I'd check out the cats. You can get a big bus for about $5k with this drivetrain. You could cut it down to shortbus size, but personally I'd like to make a toyhauler out of a long one, It'd be sweet to have a garage as the back half of a RV.
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I haven't used it yet. We pulled the engine and have one waiting to go in next week, I hope. It will be a gasser 390.

I'm worried about having to pull 24-26k with it though, that's a lot of work for the engine.
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I haven't used it yet. We pulled the engine and have one waiting to go in next week, I hope. It will be a gasser 390.

I'm worried about having to pull 24-26k with it though, that's a lot of work for the engine.
I have had a little experience with that engine in a heavy haul set up.
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I know, but it will make a fun toy...it's been a great project.

Bringing it home I got it up to about 65-70 before it just smoked too much. It had a 330MD in there. It should be able to run 60-65 while towing. Even 55-60 is fine by me.
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Old 01-02-2006, 12:47 AM   #8 (permalink)
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This is my buddy's bus he has a gooseneck hitch in it. He also has future plans of a front axle with at least 44's on it to play in the dunes.
I realize its not the short bus but I figured everyone might like this.
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Oh that is to sick. does he use it like a flat bed?
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Old 01-02-2006, 12:32 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Hey, thats my bus!!! LOL and yes it has an 8.3 cummins. You can get the same bus in the short version but only with a 5.9. Where is the pics of it doing a burnout?
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Old 01-02-2006, 10:20 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Bring it to Starbucks and well take pics again
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Old 01-03-2006, 11:23 AM   #12 (permalink)
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FWIW, the local school district has newer full-length conventionals with the 5.9 Cummins, I think they are 275 hp and a Freightliner Chassis. From what I heard they went this route at least partially due to consistently poor warrenty service from the local Navistar dealer.

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looks like a p-pumped 12v with a stick

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Old 02-19-2006, 08:42 AM   #14 (permalink)
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www.nwbus.com is here in washington, they might be able to help you find what you want
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