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Old 03-06-2006, 12:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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utility trailer plans?

tried searching google and cant search here at the moment so sorry for the noob question. im wanting to build either a 4x8 or 6x10 utlity trailer to haul garbage to the dumps, help people move stuff, tow my 4 wheeler/ dirt bike. never gonna have prolly more then 2000 pounds give or take a few hundread pounds. well my question is what should i build it out of? i was gonna do it all out of 2x4 .188 thick but my quote from the steel place was a lil high and i know it can be built out of somthing smaller becuase thats overkill for a small utility trailer. any help is very appreciated
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Old 03-06-2006, 06:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Here is a site with plans...

http://www.etrailerpart.com/mywebs/m...4_products.htm

Just go down to the local trailer place and take some measurement and pics.
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2x4x3/16 is way overkill for a short trailer like that. Since you are putting sides on it (my assumption from your description of garbage hauler,etc)), you need to remember the sides add a lot of strength. 2x3 by 1/8 tube for the main frame would be more than strong enough. For an axle you could use a light one, BUT a 3500 lb one cost only a little more than a 2000 lb axle. Cross members could be 2 1/2inch angle. Do an A-type tongue, it's a lot stronger than a single tube. I like to run my wiring thru the frame so it isn't vulnerable to brush,etc. No brakes are needed for a small trailer like this. I prefer swivel jacks, quicker to use and don't hit ground like a tongue mount unit. I also like flush mounted tailights cause I l use to knock off the other type :-(. Put LOTS of tiedown hooks on it too. Carry an extra set of wheels bearings and seals. A hand cranked manual winch is better than no winch. LED lights are durable and the prices have come way down recently. 10 % tongue weight is standard practice so hang your axle accordingly. Simply take the length of your trailer (excluding the tongue), convert to inches and mutliply by .6. This is where you want the axle mounted (measuring from the front of course :-). Any questions feel free to contact me. Plans? You don't need no stinkin" plans :-). OR.... forget everything I just said, go look at factory trailers and copy one (don't copy a Harbor Freight POS).
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tried searching google and cant search here at the moment so sorry for the noob question. im wanting to build either a 4x8 or 6x10 utlity trailer to haul garbage to the dumps, help people move stuff, tow my 4 wheeler/ dirt bike. never gonna have prolly more then 2000 pounds give or take a few hundread pounds. well my question is what should i build it out of? i was gonna do it all out of 2x4 .188 thick but my quote from the steel place was a lil high and i know it can be built out of somthing smaller becuase thats overkill for a small utility trailer. any help is very appreciated
Man, your in NorCal. Where at? You could always stop by my shop and we could talk or you could PM me and I'll shoot you some plans.
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thanks for everyones help and ideas, got some greta ones now. after checking out this thread /forum/tow-rigs-trailers/440046-my-trailer-build.html i decided i could just build it out of angle iron so we went and picked up 60 feet of 3x3 3/16 angle iron. were building it 4'x10' with two 10 foot main rails and 6 corss bars all out of the 3x3 angle. already cut it all out and we have one 10 foot piece left we will use for extra strength on the corners and to tie in the tounge. got 60 feet of the 3x3 angle and 10 feet of 4" x 1/4" flat stock for 153$ and we have leaf springs and and an axle from a jeep cherokee were going to use. sides will be built out of wood we already have along with the plywood deck, shouldnt cost anymore then 250$ not including jack or coupler we already have.


thanks for all the help and trailer guy ill be talking to you in a month or two becuase we will be needing to build or buy a two vehicle gooesneck or 5th wheel style trailer for a jeep cherokee and a 4 runner
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thanks for everyones help and ideas, got some greta ones now. after checking out this thread http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=440046 i decided i could just build it out of angle iron so we went and picked up 60 feet of 3x3 3/16 angle iron. were building it 4'x10' with two 10 foot main rails and 6 corss bars all out of the 3x3 angle. already cut it all out and we have one 10 foot piece left we will use for extra strength on the corners and to tie in the tounge. got 60 feet of the 3x3 angle and 10 feet of 4" x 1/4" flat stock for 153$ and we have leaf springs and and an axle from a jeep cherokee were going to use. sides will be built out of wood we already have along with the plywood deck, shouldnt cost anymore then 250$ not including jack or coupler we already have.


thanks for all the help and trailer guy ill be talking to you in a month or two becuase we will be needing to build or buy a two vehicle gooesneck or 5th wheel style trailer for a jeep cherokee and a 4 runner
Build it 5x10. Most axles that are goign to fit a 48 inch floor are only rated 1500-2k. 3500 lb axles for a 5ft floor width are a pretty common size.

Becides it really sucks trying to get your hands around a peice of ply in a 4x8.
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Build it 5x10. Most axles that are goign to fit a 48 inch floor are only rated 1500-2k. 3500 lb axles for a 5ft floor width are a pretty common size.

Becides it really sucks trying to get your hands around a peice of ply in a 4x8.
Really? Man, that is about all I can get here is 4x8 (49" x 96" really).

You should be able to find a 3500lbs axles for any width. I sell, what is commonly called, a beam in a box. You get the hollow 3500 lbs. beam, two spindles and spring pads. You can get a full kit and it includes hubs, and/or brakes if wanted. This way, you can cut the beam to the desired length, weld in the spindles, and you've got an axle of the exact length that you want. The spindles are machined to fit the tubing, so getting it straight isn't that tough. It is a great way get the axle size that you need, they don't cost that much, and they are really easy to put together.

And yes, the 5x10 will most likely be more useful over time.
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im using a jeep cherokee rear axle that i have for free and the 5 feet wouldnt fit unless i built it over the top of the tires and im using stock jeep tires and rims. we will have a 2+ car trailer in a couple months to haul real stuff. this trailer is for small stuff like a 4 wheeler which we take camping on the beach so the trailer will be being pulled on the sand and norcal sand is very soft so lighter the trailer the better. plus the steel was already cut before i made the post. we have one of those harborfreight etc 4x8 fold up trailers that we over loaded and destroyed lol so this trailer is basicly replacing that one for the same price but 2 feet longer and twice the payload. i appreciate all of your input though, if anyones interested i can take pictures as we build it and post them.
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Really? Man, that is about all I can get here is 4x8 (49" x 96" really).

You should be able to find a 3500lbs axles for any width. I sell, what is commonly called, a beam in a box. You get the hollow 3500 lbs. beam, two spindles and spring pads. You can get a full kit and it includes hubs, and/or brakes if wanted. This way, you can cut the beam to the desired length, weld in the spindles, and you've got an axle of the exact length that you want. The spindles are machined to fit the tubing, so getting it straight isn't that tough. It is a great way get the axle size that you need, they don't cost that much, and they are really easy to put together.

And yes, the 5x10 will most likely be more useful over time.
Around here 5x8 is the most popular size. The only 4x8s you see are cheezy fold ups and junk from Northern and Pep Girls. A 4x8 doesn't fit but a 42 inch lawn tractor...its really not a useful size.


As to the poster of the thread.......Might want to measure again. A FULL size truck is 48 between the fenders. I suspect your Xj axle is going to limit your width to around 40-42 inches. The XJ rims have a deep offset. I run Jeep rims on my 5x10 and I had to run spacers to clear.
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