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Old 01-11-2008, 05:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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F350 fuel economy for gas engines.

What kind of mileage are you guys getting with your V10's and 5.4L's?
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I tow a trailer and get about 8 to 10 with my F-350 srw reg cab. I also have a heavy foot and 315/75/16 tires. I've been wondering about a chip upgrade as it's about the only thing I can do as I already have dual exhaust. There is like 0 aftermarket for the gas engines these days. It's all about the diesel.
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I had an old boss with a V10 SRW long bed, who had a lead foot and got about 9mpg unloaded. It was enough to convince me, and him to buy diesels.
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[QUOTE=jeep937;7725956] There is like 0 aftermarket for the gas engines these days. QUOTE]

I used to have a 99 350 SD 4x4 CC long bed w/ a V10 and 5 speed , 285 /16s and the "best" I ever got was 13 empty on a long hiway trip

I bought one of these air filter kits off ebay and it made a big difference on the "butt" dyno but I sold it before I ever really rechecked the MPG

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Gas motors dont belong in trucks.

All they do is GUZZLE fuel
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Thanks for adding nothing to this thread.
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Buddy at work just bought a 2000 F-250, SC, 4WD with the 5.4L (I think 265s). He has a custom bike shop so he never tows anything real heavy. Said he gets about 10-11mpg running around town unloaded.
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Maybe you didnt read my post.

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All they do is GUZZLE fuel
Pretty simple to understand.


And if you are asking for typical mileage on a Gas motor for a tow bitch, then you are obviously trying to pinch pennies.

Realize this....

Those pennies you pinch in purchase cost will come back and bite you in the ass in the form of fuel consumption.

Pay the additional for diesel. Its worth EVERY penny.
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My buddy who also owns a landscape company just bought a brand new SD250 with the 5.4. I took a ride with him out to eat and he apparently has to rev the engine up to almost redline just in normal driving. Every time he takes off it has to be floored to get the truck moving. There is no place for that kind of wussy power in an HD type truck. Like back in the day when you could get the 4.3 in the heavy duty Chevy's. A joke. As for dude saying gas motors don't belong in trucks. Hes just must be a diesel bias because he paid some shop $2000 to run semi exhaust thru his bed and he has to pay $3.75 per gallon. No in all seriousness tho I would like to have a Cummings diesel but I drive my Ford everyday and I just don't know about the big diesel in a daily driver. MY V10 does great! I love it. I almost can't wait for when my truck is a beater and I can swap that V10 in a jeep or hot rod. and remember that Shelby Cobra concept car with it's V10?
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The V10 is a decent towing motor.

But it doesnt belong ANYWHERE in a thread about fuel economy.

And what do you mean "cannot wait till my truck is a beater, so i can yank the motor"???

Have you ever considered actually getting your moneys worth out of a rig? Only way to do that is to take care of it, and drive it till' it stops.

And what are you averaging with your V10? Even 10mpg unloaded in town??

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As for dude saying gas motors don't belong in trucks. Hes just must be a diesel bias because he paid some shop $2000 to run semi exhaust thru his bed and he has to pay $3.75 per gallon.
Yep, you got me

Actually, Ive owned 4 gas powered trucks. A few 1/2 tons, the rest 3/4 ton rigs. All of them were gas hogs, no matter how you look at it. The best of the lot (just looking at fuel economy) was the '94 F-150 that had the lil' 302 V8 in it and a 5-speed. Best I EVER got was 18mpg, unloaded, with the cruise set at 65mph. With 5k in tow, I was lucky to see 6mpg

The current rig is a '96 Powerstroke 4x4 that is stock, with the exception of intake and exhaust. It is a workhorse that gets exceptional fuel mileage, and a rig I still do not yet have $8k into (including purchase price). This is the first Diesel Ive ever had. And I will never go back.
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All they do is GUZZLE fuel
Yeah, but they are still cheaper to operate than a diesel in the long run. Especially if you live in an area where diesel is 60 cents more per gallon than unleaded.

But considering you focus on the fuel side of it I don't expect you to understand that.

btw - my 360-V8 gets 15-16mpg consistently unloaded, with peaks of 18mpg on hot days. Towing is usually 10-11mpg.

A big block, you'll generally see 10-13mpg unloaded and 6-9mpg loaded.

V10 - the guys that I knew that ran them were getting about the same as the big block.

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i have a 99 f-250 with a 5.4 has a snow plow on it.
use it for work everyday.
i got about 11-12mpg or so empty normal driving
after the ladder rack went on it dropped to about 10 mpg
highway it got 14 mpg with no rack and a bed cover.
with the rack it gets about 12 mpg highway
towing a trailer with a YJ i get about 10 mpg highway
plowing snow the truck gets about 7-8mpg, just driving with the plow on the truck it gets about 8-9 mpg
i towed a fishing boat with a canopy from the bethany beach delaware to virgina beach. it got a consistant 7.5 mpg. felt like i was pulling a parachute.
the truck has no power, i often joke about it having a 15 hp briggs and straton
the funny part is a trailer doesnt really effect it much. its kind of like an old tractor.

The truck has about 96k miles on it and last week one of the rods went, so now the truck needs a new motor. not worth it as the truck is only worth 7k in good shape. apparently its problem they had with the superdutys. the truck is too heavy for that small of a motor and it puts alot of extra strain on the motor.
shopping for a new work truck next week, and i will probably get a gas motor again, just a much newer model. as mentioned, the fuel in a diesel is just too much if your not pulling a trailer all the time.

hope this helps
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Pretty simple to understand.


And if you are asking for typical mileage on a Gas motor for a tow bitch, then you are obviously trying to pinch pennies.

Realize this....

Those pennies you pinch in purchase cost will come back and bite you in the ass in the form of fuel consumption.

Pay the additional for diesel. Its worth EVERY penny.
I didn't ask for advice on whether to get a diesel or gas engine. I asked for people who have 5.4L and 6.8L gas engines in their F350's to post what kind of fuel economy they are getting. That is all I want to know.
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Actually, Ive owned 4 gas powered trucks. A few 1/2 tons, the rest 3/4 ton rigs. All of them were gas hogs, no matter how you look at it. The best of the lot (just looking at fuel economy) was the '94 F-150 that had the lil' 302 V8 in it and a 5-speed. Best I EVER got was 18mpg, unloaded, with the cruise set at 65mph. With 5k in tow, I was lucky to see 6mpg
I had a 02 GMC i bought new in 02. had it for 3 years, but the 1/2 ton wouldnt have worked for my job now, so i turned it in when i started this new job (plus why keep paying for a truck when the company will give you one)
that truck was a shortbed extended cab. i used to get about 15 mpg city and driving long highway i would get 20mpg, with peaks of 21mpg. towing my yj (guessing about 6k total weight trailer and jeep) i would get about 10-11 mpg if i didnt try to keep up with the diesels. the truck pulled real good and always had plenty of power. after about 40k miles the sunshell in the tranny did break destroying the tranny. GM covered it as it was a design flaw. other than that that truck was great, and i am thinking about getting another one for a personal vehicle.

so just because you had a couple pos gassers dosent mean there not decient trucks if you dont tow 20k lbs everyday.
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I didn't ask for advice on whether to get a diesel or gas engine. I asked for people who have 5.4L and 6.8L gas engines in their F350's to post what kind of fuel economy they are getting. That is all I want to know.
I had a 5.4 in an f-350 with a service body, loaded way down. I couldn't run 100 on big hills and I could barely do it towing anything big. I'd say I got between 8-15mpg. We had another, similar truck except crew cab that had a v-10 and the mileage was better towing, plus there was way more power.

The thing with the 5.4, is you have to run it soooo hard to even run the speed limit it's pretty much floored the whole time.
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I had a buddy w/ 4x4 crew cab v10... he said he always got 9mpg. I asked him if that was towing or empty and he said 9

I have a buddy w/ a 2wd crew cab v10 long bed that gets 10 avg. If he goes on a freeway trip he gets almost 13 empty.


I only know a few people w/ 5.4's.... 2 were in the freakshow 97 sorta f250. one had 265k on it and ran fine. decent mileage too
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OK, I wasn't sure I wanted in on this thread, but I'll play.

06 SD F-250 6 Spd 4.10 gears. I get 15-16 consistently on the highway with no load. Around town its around 10. Interstate towing (approx 7K) around 10MPG.
I have heard the newer 5.4s are much better. I'll admit that I do drive with a light foot.

It doesn't have tons of power but it gets the job done just fine.
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I didn't ask for advice on whether to get a diesel or gas engine. I asked for people who have 5.4L and 6.8L gas engines in their F350's to post what kind of fuel economy they are getting. That is all I want to know.
Well hell, a simple GOOGLE search would have given you an answer to that



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Vehicle - '00 F250 ext. cab 4x4 w/ V10. 4.88's and 315/75R16's. 150k

With the factory 3.73's I was getting around 11-12mpg. When I switched to 4.88's and 37's the milage remained unchanged.About the time the 37's wore out I got an almost free set of new 315's. Milage dropped substantially and now I get around 8-10mpg.

A couple of years ago my wife drove an '02 Excursion with the V10. It had the 4.30 gears and 285's and averaged right around 13-14 mpg.

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'02 F-250 Ext. Cab V-10 Auto 4.30's 285/75's. 115k

10 MPG city, maybe 12 MPG highway if I've got a tailwind going down hill. This is calculated by hand, not the stock MPG gauge (which calculates 13 MPG ).
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I used to have an 04 F-350 Crew Cab 4x4 with the 5.4. I would get 13-14 mpg on the hwy, and 8-10 towing.
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V-10 auto gets 12-13 empty and 8-9 loaded (17,000 CGVW) w/3.73s. Computed off GPS miles

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My work truck is an 08 Superduty 4x4 w/5.4L @8900 mi., and gets 11.7
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^^^^^^ ditto

I was running around in an 08 F250, 4x4 CrewCab, SB w/ 5.4L. Got in the 12mpg neigbour hood, I think the best I got was 14, worst was 8.

I'd suggest that if you want to tow, don't go with the 5.4L. It was OK for driving around with unloaded, but still wasn't overly quick in such a heavy truck. Also usually had to drop two gears(so RPM at the 4K mark) to have the balls to pass on the highway.
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