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Old 05-13-2009, 05:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Recreational Vehicle standards - ANSI A119.2

ANSI 119.2 is the standard that most states are adopting to define an RV.

search for my Redneck toter build on here to see my rig.

I've been canceled by 2 insurance companies because I've been honest with what ammentities I have and what I don't. The second one really pissed me off because we went thru all the trouble to research and get insurance and they said "sure, no problem" then a month later they changed their mind and say "it's an unacceptable RV" yet none will tell me why and in WRITING.

I've heard this line too many times - "it has to have everything that you'd have in your house. A sink, toilet, etc"

Well god dammit I live out in the country and some people still don't have a fawking toilet in their house! Why should I have to have one in my RV and have to clean and haul shit around! I think they are disgusting.

I've had no real issues titling and registering it. As long as I keep the ins. companies in the dark they don't say anything.

So I want in WRITING what my state (MO) calls an RV and why insurance companies are having such a hard time.

some links I found (do a ctrl + F and search for "recreational")

http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C300-399/3010000010.HTM
http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/c700-799/7000000010.htm
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Old 05-13-2009, 05:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Quit bitching and spend $80 to get "right'

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Old 05-13-2009, 06:45 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Get a small cartredge unit at wal-mart. Or even a few of those PET bio toilets in a throw away box. No one says you have to use it.
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X2....you don't have to use it...just have it.....if required to be permanent....any fastner system(screw) will work

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grange has no problem inshuring my IH 4700 air brake truck as a RV and it has no toliet.
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Old 05-14-2009, 04:35 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I've had a porta toilet in it. I've had a recirculating sink I rigged up off a 5 gallon cooler. I did all that for the state inspections and they never looked and told me it wasn't necessary. I have the state of KS requirements and I'm legal for them.

Problem arose when we had a fender bender. No damage to my truck and insurance wanted to check my RV out. they were debating on paying the claim and saying it wasn't an RV and I lied to them to get it insured. I didn't lie and now I'm not either but if they can't give me the requirements up front and in WRITING how can I tell them if I meet their standards or not?


Now in MO the standards are ANSI A-119.2 so I need to see those and I'll carry them with me in the toter.
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KS has determined it's an RV. The ins co hasn't?

sounds like they just don'y want to pay claims. Time for a judge.
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This really sucks Travis. I know the DOT here had no problem with it. What is the difference between it and a huge Prevost motorhome other than the price and amenities? It is the same length and better safety requirements.

Ins is a fawking joke. They want as much for my 1947 Jeep with liability as they do for my wife's 2000 Taurus with full coverage! They say it is because of the type of claims it would have. Good luck with this and let me know what you find out.
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Found this in reference to ansi 119.2 if you aren't turning up anything;
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Copies of ANSI A119.2/ NFPA 1192 may be obtained from:
National Fire Protection Association, 1 Battery Park, P.O. Box 9101, Quincy, MA 02269
Phone: 1-800-344-3555

Recreational Vehicle Industry Association, 1896 Preston White Drive, P.O. Box 2999,
Reston, VA 21095-0999
The newest RV standards available for $30, supercedes ansi 1192. Never heard of this place before the googling.

The TOC of NFPA 1192;
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NFPA 1192 Standard on Recreational Vehicles 2008 Edition

Chapter 1 Administration

Chapter 2 Referenced Publications

Chapter 3 Definitions

Chapter 4 General Requirements

Chapter 5 Fuel Systems and Equipment

Chapter 6 Fire and Life Safety Provisions

Chapter 7 Plumbing Systems

Annex A Explanatory Material

Annex B Propane Pipe Sizing

Annex C Product Listing Standards

Annex D Informational References

Index

Tentative Interim Amendment
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With unique characteristics of size and use, recreational vehicles require a distinct set of safety guidelines. The 2002 edition of NFPA 1192 regulates the full spectrum of safety criteria considered necessary to provide a reasonable level of protection from loss of life from fire and explosion.

The Standard includes provisions for:

- Labeling
- Fuel systems and equipment
- Fire and life safety
- Plumbing

Also included are rules for LP-Gas detectors and requirements for recreational vehicles used for transporting internal combustion engine vehicles.
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NFPA 1192 merges ANSI requirements for recreational vehicle safety.

With unique characteristics of size and use, recreational vehicles require a distinct set of fire and life safety criteria. The 2005 edition of NFPA 1192 replaces ANSI A119.2 with a complete set of merged requirements regulating the full spectrum of safety from the hazards of fires and explosions.

Provisions govern the installation of systems for plumbing, fuel-burning, electrical, and other safety-related systems.

Major changes in this edition include:

* Clarification of requirements for location and securing of propane containers
* New requirements for high pressure piping
* Revised requirements for fuel tank installation
* Requirements for automatic generator starting systems


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