Trailer with no suspension? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

StinkBug · 10-01-2002, 06:03 PM

I've got a friend that may be selling his trailer some time soon. Its a double axle single car trailer that he tows his Toy on, but its got no brakes or suspension. If i got it i would swap out the axles for ones with brakes, but how much difference does suspension make? He tows with his motorhome with no problem, but i would be towing with a full size pickup or a bronco, depending on what i get. Is suspension really important on a car hauler, or does it make much difference?

Dallas

Mr.N · 10-01-2002, 06:39 PM

I'd sure check the welds holding the axle on! Get a pic, I've got to see this.

KS Toy · 10-02-2002, 05:55 AM

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Originally posted by StinkBug
Is suspension really important on a car hauler, or does it make much difference?

Dallas

YES! If it is free, (or close to it) take it & out some springs under it.
I would not have one without. Just my $.02..............

hy_desert_4wheeler · 10-02-2002, 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by StinkBug
I've got a friend that may be selling his trailer some time soon. Its a double axle single car trailer that he tows his Toy on, but its got no brakes or suspension. If i got it i would swap out the axles for ones with brakes, but how much difference does suspension make? He tows with his motorhome with no problem, but i would be towing with a full size pickup or a bronco, depending on what i get. Is suspension really important on a car hauler, or does it make much difference?

Dallas

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As long as it is not some booty fab trailer it will be just fine if the price is right.. You will need to make sure the trailer sits level or slightly nose up when loaded and attached to your truck otherwise it will be a case of the tail wagging the dog..

StinkBug · 10-02-2002, 04:54 PM

I'm pretty sure the axles are bolted on, not welded, ie. U-bolts to the frame, tho i haven't taken a good look. Hes been towing with it for at least 10 years without a problem, but his tow rig is bigger than mine. Its definitely not a bootie fab trailer, quite well built and professional looking. Believe me this guy knows his shit when it comes to building stuff. guy has every too imaginable and knows how to use em. Last time i saw him he was fabbing up a 1/4 scale model out of 1/2" tubing to test suspension designs for his upcoming buggy project. I dont think he built the trailer, but everything he has is overbuilt to the max and well engineered. I'm not worried about its structural strength, just how it will tow.

Dallas

CSP · 10-02-2002, 06:07 PM

I towed a small trailer last week with about a cord of wood in it that had no suspension. It sucked. I could feel every bump in the road and with weight on it the only suspension will be the air in the tires. The stupid thing just wants to bounce down the road. I can't imagine that it's good for the trailer. Right now I'm working on putting some springs under this thing before I take the trailer back.

I pulled a gooseneck stock trailer the week before with about 5,500 pounds of cattle in it. That thing pulled way better than this little POS with a cord of firewood in it.

hy_desert_4wheeler · 10-02-2002, 06:08 PM

If he is your friend have him let you tow something around one day to see how it tows with your truck then make your decision..

RE:Todd · 10-02-2002, 06:26 PM

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Originally posted by StinkBug
I'm pretty sure the axles are bolted on, not welded, ie. U-bolts to the frame, tho i haven't taken a good look. Hes been towing with it for at least 10 years without a problem, but his tow rig is bigger than mine. Its definitely not a bootie fab trailer, quite well built and professional looking. Believe me this guy knows his shit when it comes to building stuff. guy has every too imaginable and knows how to use em. Last time i saw him he was fabbing up a 1/4 scale model out of 1/2" tubing to test suspension designs for his upcoming buggy project. I dont think he built the trailer, but everything he has is overbuilt to the max and well engineered. I'm not worried about its structural strength, just how it will tow.

Dallas

Dallas, if it's who I think it is, he did build it himself. However, I just bought mine for $1359 out the door. 16 foot, 7K, 7K coupler, single axle brakes, etc. etc. If you get a good deal from him, go for it. I'd also check on putting suspension on it.

CrazyCraig · 10-02-2002, 06:47 PM

I would def. put suspension on it. you can buy alxes with torsion sprins on it if you don't want leaf springs. I towed a house-boat trailer (axles welded to the frame) and when the trailer hit a bump you could watch the beams shake and then the whole ass of the truck (heavy 3/4 ton) was bouncing. If the price is right get the trailer and then suspended it.

Craig

StinkBug · 10-10-2002, 05:23 PM

Todd where did you get your trailer? Sounds like you got a damn good deal if its new. Two 7k axles

i think thats a bit over kill for me, my rig barely weighs 4k. i think i could probably get a trailer with a pair of 3.5k's and never have a problem.

Dallas

RE:Todd · 10-10-2002, 07:47 PM

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Originally posted by StinkBug
Todd where did you get your trailer? Sounds like you got a damn good deal if its new. Two 7k axles i think thats a bit over kill for me, my rig barely weighs 4k. i think i could probably get a trailer with a pair of 3.5k's and never have a problem.

Dallas

Total capacity is 7K, it has two 3.5K axles. I got it at AzTex trailers, 1978 S. Santa Fe in Vista. His number is 760-597-1864. I paid $1359 out the door.

Mustard Dog · 10-10-2002, 08:03 PM

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Originally posted by StinkBug
my rig barely weighs 4k. i think i could probably get a trailer with a pair of 3.5k's and never have a problem.

Dallas

You can load a bunch of firewood with all that leftover capacity

10-01-2002, 06:03 PM	#1 (permalink)
StinkBug StinkyFab Racing Join Date: May 2001 Member # 4946 Location: San Diego Posts: 6,146	Trailer with no suspension? I've got a friend that may be selling his trailer some time soon. Its a double axle single car trailer that he tows his Toy on, but its got no brakes or suspension. If i got it i would swap out the axles for ones with brakes, but how much difference does suspension make? He tows with his motorhome with no problem, but i would be towing with a full size pickup or a bronco, depending on what i get. Is suspension really important on a car hauler, or does it make much difference? Dallas __________________ Dallas Ashley StinkyFab Racing (SFR) - Custom Fabrication Your Source for: CNC Cutting & Engraving, Cages, Custom Suspension, Complete Vehicle Builds, and more! Overall Winner, 2012 KOH EMC. Gettin it done in a stocker! Co-Dog #4432-KOH 2011 #88-KOH 2010, Crew Chief - KOH 2009, 2008

10-01-2002, 06:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
Mr.N Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Member # 1635 Location: Minne-so-cold Posts: 3,961	I'd sure check the welds holding the axle on! Get a pic, I've got to see this. __________________ Proud Catholic \| My Dana Articles and Info -> http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/web_rs44.html

10-02-2002, 04:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
StinkBug StinkyFab Racing Join Date: May 2001 Member # 4946 Location: San Diego Posts: 6,146	I'm pretty sure the axles are bolted on, not welded, ie. U-bolts to the frame, tho i haven't taken a good look. Hes been towing with it for at least 10 years without a problem, but his tow rig is bigger than mine. Its definitely not a bootie fab trailer, quite well built and professional looking. Believe me this guy knows his shit when it comes to building stuff. guy has every too imaginable and knows how to use em. Last time i saw him he was fabbing up a 1/4 scale model out of 1/2" tubing to test suspension designs for his upcoming buggy project. I dont think he built the trailer, but everything he has is overbuilt to the max and well engineered. I'm not worried about its structural strength, just how it will tow. Dallas __________________ Dallas Ashley StinkyFab Racing (SFR) - Custom Fabrication Your Source for: CNC Cutting & Engraving, Cages, Custom Suspension, Complete Vehicle Builds, and more! Overall Winner, 2012 KOH EMC. Gettin it done in a stocker! Co-Dog #4432-KOH 2011 #88-KOH 2010, Crew Chief - KOH 2009, 2008

10-02-2002, 06:07 PM	#6 (permalink)
CSP Registered User Join Date: Aug 2000 Member # 1533 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 2,779	I towed a small trailer last week with about a cord of wood in it that had no suspension. It sucked. I could feel every bump in the road and with weight on it the only suspension will be the air in the tires. The stupid thing just wants to bounce down the road. I can't imagine that it's good for the trailer. Right now I'm working on putting some springs under this thing before I take the trailer back. I pulled a gooseneck stock trailer the week before with about 5,500 pounds of cattle in it. That thing pulled way better than this little POS with a cord of firewood in it. Last edited by CSP; 10-02-2002 at 06:09 PM.

10-02-2002, 06:08 PM	#7 (permalink)
hy_desert_4wheeler Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 2790 Location: Stinnett Tx USA Posts: 1,629	If he is your friend have him let you tow something around one day to see how it tows with your truck then make your decision.. __________________ Russ hy_desert_4wheeler 46 Dodge WC15--67 M715--85 Jeep CJ10A--06 Dodge Ram2500Quad cab Cummins--94 Suburban--06 Ridgeline-

10-02-2002, 06:47 PM	#9 (permalink)
CrazyCraig Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Member # 2358 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 293	I would def. put suspension on it. you can buy alxes with torsion sprins on it if you don't want leaf springs. I towed a house-boat trailer (axles welded to the frame) and when the trailer hit a bump you could watch the beams shake and then the whole ass of the truck (heavy 3/4 ton) was bouncing. If the price is right get the trailer and then suspended it. Craig __________________ 1992 YJ "Pepe`" soon to be for sale 1994 YJ "??" for sale Ever stop to think and forget to start again

10-10-2002, 05:23 PM	#10 (permalink)
StinkBug StinkyFab Racing Join Date: May 2001 Member # 4946 Location: San Diego Posts: 6,146	Todd where did you get your trailer? Sounds like you got a damn good deal if its new. Two 7k axles i think thats a bit over kill for me, my rig barely weighs 4k. i think i could probably get a trailer with a pair of 3.5k's and never have a problem. Dallas __________________ Dallas Ashley StinkyFab Racing (SFR) - Custom Fabrication Your Source for: CNC Cutting & Engraving, Cages, Custom Suspension, Complete Vehicle Builds, and more! Overall Winner, 2012 KOH EMC. Gettin it done in a stocker! Co-Dog #4432-KOH 2011 #88-KOH 2010, Crew Chief - KOH 2009, 2008

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