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Old 05-14-2010, 06:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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School me in 10 lug conversions

I have a 2001 F-250 2 wheel drive. Single rear wheel.

Is it possible to do a 10 lug conversion keeping it single rear wheel and not lift this truck? If so what wheel/ tire combo is available to achieve this?
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Old 05-15-2010, 04:42 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Are you sure you don't just want 20" Ford OEM wheels with 275/65R20 tires ? I put them on my truck and they are awesome compared to 16" tires and wheels, which your truck probably has.

You need to buy adapters to run OEM 20s on the early Superduties. Let me know if you want to know more.

As far as 10 lug tires go, I don't see the advantage to 19.5s and I feel that 22s are too big and heavy for these trucks. Not many people talk about it, but several people have gone to 22s and then sold them.

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99.9% of the time people dont convert over to 10 lug they just bolt on wheel adapters
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Old 05-15-2010, 07:39 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I was going to run the wheel adapters and then try to get a set of "18 wheeler" style tires that are about the same size and would run for a higher mileage.

245/70x19.5's
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305/40x22's

I have a friend that can machine the wheel adapters and I was going to look for some super single "junk yard" rims to sandblast and paint. The tires are priced reasonable. Are those sizes going to run 100k miles?

Do I need to worry about getting a certain rim? Any brake problems?
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Your brakes wont like the extra weight that's spinning..Get some better brake pads/shoes than the stock stuff.

The 305/40-22 sounds like a ghetto wheel and tire setup,is there such a hd truck tire in this size?..My conversion van runs a 285 40 24 and its pretty scary when you think of the extra leverage put on the suspension with that much wheel..I wouldnt tow with any super low profile lt tires, hell i even removed my hitch from the van so i dont get any dumb ideas.

Id run some 245/70-19.5s and call it a day..By the time you get done in machine work for the bolt pattern and sourcing new wheels you coulda bought a set of aftermarket ricksons..If you look hard enough amtrack runs this size on some of its suburbans, i know the NYC MTA does as well..
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305/40r22 is not a truck tire, no "big rig" runs a 22" wheel. They either run 19.5 or 22.5. Also just think if it's really cost effective to spend the money on new wheels, tires, adaptars, brake and suspension upgrades etc. vs. buying a good set of tires, if you have the stock size it should be 265/75r16. There is guys getting 65-70k out of michelins. just my .02
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For junk yard 19.5's look towards rail road trucks, if you got real lucky you might be able to find a set off of a stupid duty. I know I've seen they on some of the LS&I trucks. They aren't pretty and the back spacing might be a bit screwy.
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Old 05-16-2010, 10:39 AM   #8 (permalink)
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This is where I was getting my tire size availability.

http://www.chromewheel.com/tire.htm

It may be cheaper to just get a good set of 16" tires....... In order to justify a ten lug adaptor, I would have to put another 200k on this truck or swap the rim setup onto the next truck.
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THere are plenty of companies that sell wheel adapters that will allow the use of a 10 lug x 285mm wheel (big rig pattern). There is also a small ten lug pattern (225mm, i think) that comes on the new F550, but then you are more limited on wheel choices.

A low pro 22.50 tire rides like shit, especially in a lightweight truck, they were designed for heavy loads after all. The low pro 22" and 24" ghetto dually wheels and tires arent much better because the sidewalls are so short. They are not as tall as a true 22.50 wheel and tire, but the ride will still suck.

There seems to be a pretty big gap between 265/70R19.50 or even a 285 and a true (not low pro) 22.50 wheel and tire combo which is going to be 39-40" tall at least. Low pro will be 35-37" tall dep on wheel and tire combo. Most likely not going to fit a 2wd truck with no lift.

If you looking at single rear wheel, then all of the commercial big rig 22.50 stuff is out, as they are all dually applications. Low pro 22.50 is probably out too. There may be some single 22.50s but not many, so selection will such and cost will $$$$$.

You may be better off looking for a 20 - 22" wheel from someone like KMC http://www.kmcwheels.com/html_pages/trucksuv.html which will allow you to run a tire as small as 33" on a 20" wheel, with virtually no limit on the top end (tire size) depending on tire width, lift, etc.

A 2wd truck with no lift does not provide much room for anything over 33-34", IIRC...

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Old 05-16-2010, 05:28 PM   #10 (permalink)
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There seems to be a pretty big gap between 265/70R19.50 or even a 285 and a true (not low pro) 22.50 wheel and tire combo which is going to be 39-40" tall at least. Low pro will be 35-37" tall dep on wheel and tire combo. Most likely not going to fit a 2wd truck with no lift.


245/70x19.5 is the same profile as my stock tires.....


General Tire sizes and prices UNIT PRICE MTD. AND
size Brand Model Balanced US$
225/70x19.5 Michelin XZE HWY 289
245/70x19.5 Michelin XZE HWY 295
265/70x19.5 Michelin XZE HWY 395
285/70x19.5 Michelin XZE HWY 425
245/70x19.5 Michelin XDE M&S 325
265/70x19.5 Michelin XD2+ TRAC 415
285/70x19. Michelin XD2+ TRAC 445
255/70x22.5 Michelin XZE HWY 375
255/70x22.5 YokoHoma Yo23 Hiway 325
255/70x22.5 YokoHoma M507 Traction 340
255/70x22.5 Michelin XD2 Traction 420
275/80x22.5 Michelin XDA-HT Traction 475
445/50x22,5 Michelin XDA-HT X-ONE 875
455/55x22.5 Michelin XDA-HT X-one 875
385/65x22.5 Michelin XZY+3 675
425/65x22.5 Michelin XZY+3 680
445/65x22.5 Michelin XZY+3 886
445//65x22.5 Michelin XZL 764
Low Profile Tires
245/30x22.0 Kumho 243
265/35x22 Pirrelli 233
265/40x22.0 Toyo 245
275/45x22.0 Perelli 233
285/45x22.0 Toyo 248
305/40x22.0 Falken 205
305/45x22.0 Falken 210
255/30x24 Perelli 395
275/25x24 Perelli 454
275/30x24 Toyo 415
285/40X24 Toyo 458
295/40X24 Nanking 330
305/35X24 Nexen 325
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WTF....
Seems like your more interested in the looks and bling rather than what matters..245-70-19.5 is about as big as you should be thinking of, on a 2wd id look at a 225/70-19.5 witch is about 33" tall.

If you want to run 22.5s or 19.5s to get the better load rating or high tread life then thats good..But this is the wrong place to come to to talk about bling and to worry about the profile of your tires.

Sit down and do the math..Can you afford to buy rims lug nuts tires and possible adapters to run 19.5s or 22.5s ? Yes they will last 100k at times but thats not a definite.Plus on top of that they ride way stiffer as they will have steel belts running into the sidewall.Meaning they will beat your suspension harder than a LT tire.From your pricelist 19.5s run you 1800 bucks for a set of 4..Are you gonna run your tow rig that long to justify the cost?

Look into some E rated tires in your stock rim size..You may get away with two sets of those for less than one set of bigger tires and wheels.If you get 60-70k out of a set of regular LT tires and it costs less than the conversion you effectively gotten a free 20-40 k of life.
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If you looking at single rear wheel, then all of the commercial big rig 22.50 stuff is out, as they are all dually applications
what are these then????

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They look like 20's to me. Do you have any more pics with a better view of the wheels? Are those wheels 10-lug, or the stock 8-lug?

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WTF....
Seems like your more interested in the looks and bling rather than what matters..
You little fucking douch bag, quit polluting my thread with your personal insecurity and go run your cock sucker somewhere else. If your gonna try to be an asshole in the teck forums you should at least read the thread..... go fuck a gorilla with aids if your this bored...

edit: oh yeah... STFU noob....
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They look like 20's to me. Do you have any more pics with a better view of the wheels? Are those wheels 10-lug, or the stock 8-lug?

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thats the only pic i could find of that truck but it was on this site http://www.chromewheel.com/4wd.htm

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One thing to watch out for is to make sure your lugs are new/good and you don't over-torque (common) or under-torque the lug nuts on the adapters...



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You little fucking douch bag, quit polluting my thread with your personal insecurity and go run your cock sucker somewhere else. If your gonna try to be an asshole in the teck forums you should at least read the thread..... go fuck a gorilla with aids if your this bored...

edit: oh yeah... STFU noob....
Whats the matter did i hit a sore spot.
Lets see you search on chrome wheel.com and make statements like I want big rig style wheels.. That makes you sound like a fucking douche bag..In none of your posts do i see you asking about load ratings, stability, less rolling resistance etc etc.All which are attributes that matter on tow rig tire selection.


Your statement is(245/70x19.5 is the same profile as my stock tires.....)
WTF is that..Sounds like a post for big gay truck land to me.

Your other statement (I was going to run the wheel adapters and then try to get a set of "18 wheeler" style tires that are about the same size and would run for a higher mileage.

245/70x19.5's
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305/40x22's

I have a friend that can machine the wheel adapters and I was going to look for some super single "junk yard" rims to sandblast and paint. The tires are priced reasonable. Are those sizes going to run 100k miles?)

Now if i look down the street there is a ghettofied Denalli truck with that same tire size..Definitely not a towing tire. Now in that statement you yourself posted about a 245/70-19.5 tire..Then later when blue runner brings it up you have an issue with it..

Your original question (
School me in 10 lug conversions
I have a 2001 F-250 2 wheel drive. Single rear wheel.

Is it possible to do a 10 lug conversion keeping it single rear wheel and not lift this truck? If so what wheel/ tire combo is available to achieve this?)

Has been answered over and over in this very thread as well as others..Search feature works best if you pony up a measly 20 bucks..(ive done it with this id as well as my other id that ive had before this one..) Once again you like a few others dont look into shit before you open your piehole.Hell a simple look into the ghetto assed website chromewheel.com would prompt anybody to pick up a tape measure.Tire sizes and info is on that site.
You sound like a pompous ass coming into a hardcore forum and asking a big gay truck land question. So instead of looking at a join date or post count you could always hit search and look into a members posts..Something that you haven't done as its explained in front of your face.

Enjoy your rig the way you want to but running a 22.5 hdt truck tire just isnt gonna happen without lifting the truck or cutting it all up.Again thats why myself as well as others who obviously have way more experience towing and working on/with tow rigs say run 19.5s.

Always makes me giggle guys with 3/4 ton and 1 ton trucks who want to emulate real mdt and hdt trucks.

When you finally find a way to run a 40" tall tire for the big rig look as you want let us know..But then again i dont think it will happen..
You spend too much time in shit chat trying to be a pirate gangster.Get away from the computer screen and do something to prove us all wrong
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You little fucking douch bag, quit polluting my thread with your personal insecurity and go run your cock sucker somewhere else. If your gonna try to be an asshole in the teck forums you should at least read the thread..... go fuck a gorilla with aids if your this bored...

edit: oh yeah... STFU noob....
He has a star...& this is the kinder, gentler PBB.



Anyway, I've seen some trucks that aren't lifted, 2wd, with the 10 lug wheels. It's possible...but in any perspective I don't think it's going to be cheap. I wanted to do the 22.5s on my SRW Duramax but decided I didn't want to add any excess weight...so hoping to just do black 20s and lowering the rear of my 4wd Duramax a bit
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WTF....
Seems like your more interested in the looks and bling rather than what matters..


Maybe junk yard rims and spray paint are "bling" in your trailer park.... More likely you aren't paying attention to what's going on here.

A shit stain with a red star is still a shit stain.... it's just polished up a bit. You sir are the "super 35 kit" of pirate4x4...
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Maybe junk yard rims and spray paint are "bling" in your trailer park.... More likely you aren't paying attention to what's going on here.

A shit stain with a red star is still a shit stain.... it's just polished up a bit. You sir are the "super 35 kit" of pirate4x4...
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Your funny, funny yet not helpful in a while other than some pirate wit and snappy remarks.

Like i said get to work and report back..You havent even picked up a tape measure.
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Your funny, funny yet not helpful in a while other than some pirate wit and snappy remarks.

Like i said get to work and report back..You havent even picked up a tape measure.
This isn't a "how to" thread dip shit..... I'm the one asking the fucking questions.

Where do you retards come from? I'm suddenly realizing why it is you know so much more about "Big Gay Truck Land" than I do... Your like "Larry the Cable Guy" and "The Pet Shop Boys" had a kid and pee'd on it. So instead of shoving a hamster up your ass (yeah that's why they call them the pet shop boys) go shove a catfish up your ass.... get your weasel to squirt.... and get the fuck out of my thread already.
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what are these then????
My guess would be that those are not commercially available "big rig" 22.50 wheels. I realise there are some super single 22.50s for big rigs, but those are easily 42-44" tall tires, so that does not apply here..

He is talking about a 2wd Superduty with no or mild lift and also the original post was about an 18 wheeler type tire with long life/high mileage.


From my original post above, that you did not quote: There may be some single 22.50s but not many, so selection will suck and cost will $$$$$.


Nice truck, are you in Winder? I see the Akins plate..

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245/70x19.5 is the same profile as my stock tires.....
Ok lets do some math, stock tire size is almost exactly 33". A 265 in that ratio is about 34" and a 285 in that ratio is about 35". There are no 36-39" tall tires that will fit a commercial 19.50 dually rim that I can find anywhere, as it seems the sidewall would be too tall, so no one makes them.

A true (non lo pro) 22.50 dually rim and tire is going to be in the range of 39-44" tall depending on tire selection. So you either go 33-34" range or you jump to 40" range, which is the gap mentioned previously.

A 35" tire may fit without lift, but I doubt it on a 2wd truck. I can promise you that a 39" tire is not going to fit without lift.

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Nice truck, are you in Winder? I see the Akins plate..
not my truck its off that site i listed i was planing on running a set of those wheels/tires but i cant justify 5k right now

there are some smaller ones for the super singles but not any smaller than a 36 or so these measure 36.1 255/70/22.5
http://www.chromewheel.com/images/MungleF250.JPG
i dont really like the look but they are singles and not huge

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