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pumpkinhead · 10-23-2002, 10:42 AM

I have been checking out a 80HP propane injection kit for my '00 F-350 PSD. Anyone know/hear anything about these?

here is a link to the kits
http://usdieselparts.com/bullydog.htm

SpaceGhost · 10-24-2002, 09:39 PM

Want the real scoop? Check these links:
DieselStop formerly ford-diesel.com
Diesel Innovations home of some bad ass Strokes
and lastly TS Performance

Not sure what all you have done to your truck but Propane isn't the first mod. Got gauges, intake, and exhaust? Automatics need help too, Sonnax and tricumulator springs, Suncoast Torque Converter. Chips are optional, but get to those links, call those guys, Dennis at TS and David or Chris at DI, they are all enthusiasts and very fast!

My next mod, before propane is a Torque Converter. I can flash past mine with only the intake, exhaust and a bad ass flip chip. When that happens it doesn't shift till you lift. The other advantage of the hp converters is the near lock up when unlocked, the stock unit slips way too much, leaving your shifts soft and lame, and fuel mileage way short.

I have no idea what I'm talking about, my best 1/8 mile time is 9.99 with the coverter mangling the shifts. Thats at 32lbs of boost and no traction (2wd, stock tires) till 3rd gear. That still left soot allover the import bling rides, and was only a little slower than the Lightning.

Enjoy, you have a killer starting point,

pumpkinhead · 10-25-2002, 08:05 AM

Thanks Spaceghost, that is the kinda info I am looking for.

Jeepmangled87 · 10-25-2002, 08:49 AM

My buddy at work has this on his 02 Superduty, and it will smoke the tires really good. He says it seems to have helped quite a bit, he loves his and says its the best things he ever done to his truck.

spudwrench · 10-27-2002, 06:08 PM

an enterprising individual could make a simple setup that really works and is reliable for a fraction of the cost of a kit. i used a 5 gal bbq tank, acetylene regulator, 12v valve, a 4 p.s.i switch total cost about 125$

KrustyKruiser · 10-28-2002, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by spudwrench
an enterprising individual could make a simple setup that really works and is reliable for a fraction of the cost of a kit. i used a 5 gal bbq tank, acetylene regulator, 12v valve, a 4 p.s.i switch total cost about 125$

Ah, I see a tech article in the making

How is the propane metered into the system, or is it like a nitrous system where it only opens the valve when the peddle is to the floor? Any pics/write-up would be appreciated.

marcutah · 10-31-2002, 04:30 AM

interesting conversation, good info here.

40-O · 10-31-2002, 02:44 PM

cheap propane inj please tell us how!

spudwrench · 10-31-2002, 06:50 PM

its very simple, ill try to explain it. i suck at internet so i cant post pics now.
i have a 5 gal tank located in custom mount in gang box on flatbed. gas runs through hose (i got at welding shop) from bottle to acetylene regulater and then 12v valve. the valve cost about 40$ (ill have to dig up the scource for youall) fom there it runs straight into the air duct between filter and turbo. awile back i vented the crankcase to the atmosphere( to keep oil out of intercooler) so i had natural spot to run the hose. i carefully tapped the housing 3/8" npt. and put a fitting there. no orifice or anything, just hose and brass fitting in duct.
i got a cool little project box from radio shack to mount the switch.its black plastic with an aluminium faceplate. i put a toggle switch (napa, no cheap ass plastic switches please) and two indicator lights on it and mounted under dash.
i put a 4 p.si. pressure switch (napa, Hobbs switch, just like used for oil pressure.) on the hose under the turbo. that way when turbo boost = 4p.s.i the switch closes. i tried a foot pedal switch but this works much better. gas only comes on when engine under load, and works with cruise control)
now wire it up so when you flip switch on it turns on light #1 (armed) and sends power to pressure switch on engine. other side of switch goes to ppane valve out back, and light #2 (go baby,go)
set regulator at about 5 p.si and run it. keep turning it up till engine doesnt like it then lower pressure to safe. it takes awile to get it just right, i run a bout 15 or so.

aftermarket kits may be more more precise with with fuel delivery, i dont know, ive never used them. i can tell you this works, its power you can definately feel! ive never cared about mileage so i dont have any numbers for you, but it will improve diesel consumption. egt's dont get that hot, but pay attention to that while going up the cajon pass at 85+ mph.
ican send someone pics if they will post them here for me.

spudwrench · 10-31-2002, 06:55 PM

oh yeah, and dont forget the little chrome toggle switch extension so you can slap it on/ off without looking!

COMPLAINE · 11-01-2002, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by spudwrench
ican send someone pics if they will post them here for me.

email them to me at acplaine@pacbell.net - good write-up - thanks

COMPLAINE · 11-01-2002, 02:35 PM

spudwrech's first pic:

COMPLAINE · 11-01-2002, 02:36 PM

spudwrench's second pic:

COMPLAINE · 11-01-2002, 02:37 PM

spudwrenches third pic:

COMPLAINE · 11-01-2002, 02:38 PM

spudwrench's fourth last pic:

spudwrench · 11-01-2002, 06:14 PM

hey, thanks COMPLAINE for posting them. the pics look cloudy because i dropped the camera in a creek. i guess you shouldnt do that.

JR2 · 11-03-2002, 07:51 PM

I little more expensive than propane...but will make your truck hum and you don't have to carry a propane bottle (aka BOMB) in the back of your truck

www.edgeproductsinc.com/ford_ez.html

Desert Jeepin · 12-10-2002, 07:35 AM

Do you have a source for the valve yet???

spudwrench · 12-10-2002, 08:21 PM

i cant find the receipt but im pretty sure it said Meeder Equip Co. look there. ill keep digging.

10-23-2002, 10:42 AM	#1 (permalink)
pumpkinhead Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 10049 Location: Yucaipa, CA Posts: 127	Propane Injected PSD I have been checking out a 80HP propane injection kit for my '00 F-350 PSD. Anyone know/hear anything about these? here is a link to the kits http://usdieselparts.com/bullydog.htm __________________ Jimbo Last edited by pumpkinhead; 10-23-2002 at 10:50 AM.

10-24-2002, 09:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
SpaceGhost Registered User Join Date: Aug 2000 Member # 1599 Location: Indianapolis, IN. Home of the Brickyard 400, Indy 500, and USGP! Posts: 1,557	Want the real scoop? Check these links: DieselStop formerly ford-diesel.com Diesel Innovations home of some bad ass Strokes and lastly TS Performance Not sure what all you have done to your truck but Propane isn't the first mod. Got gauges, intake, and exhaust? Automatics need help too, Sonnax and tricumulator springs, Suncoast Torque Converter. Chips are optional, but get to those links, call those guys, Dennis at TS and David or Chris at DI, they are all enthusiasts and very fast! My next mod, before propane is a Torque Converter. I can flash past mine with only the intake, exhaust and a bad ass flip chip. When that happens it doesn't shift till you lift. The other advantage of the hp converters is the near lock up when unlocked, the stock unit slips way too much, leaving your shifts soft and lame, and fuel mileage way short. I have no idea what I'm talking about, my best 1/8 mile time is 9.99 with the coverter mangling the shifts. Thats at 32lbs of boost and no traction (2wd, stock tires) till 3rd gear. That still left soot allover the import bling rides, and was only a little slower than the Lightning. Enjoy, you have a killer starting point, __________________ Mike "SpaceGhost" Smythe R U gettin' it? UROC Team #180 running: BFG's 37" Krawlers, Gordon Beadlocks, HP60's, T-Max w/Blue Diamond Rope, Green Filters, Marlin's ToyBox, 3.8 Atlas II, and "I got the shaft from Jesse" but I couldn't have done without Badlands Machine Shop (765-762-2981)!

10-25-2002, 08:05 AM	#3 (permalink)
pumpkinhead Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 10049 Location: Yucaipa, CA Posts: 127	Thanks Spaceghost, that is the kinda info I am looking for. __________________ Jimbo

10-27-2002, 06:08 PM	#5 (permalink)
spudwrench Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Member # 7324 Location: Ramona, ca. Posts: 86	an enterprising individual could make a simple setup that really works and is reliable for a fraction of the cost of a kit. i used a 5 gal bbq tank, acetylene regulator, 12v valve, a 4 p.s.i switch total cost about 125$ __________________ if the factory would have built it that way, they would have fucking nailed it!

10-31-2002, 04:30 AM	#7 (permalink)
marcutah Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8729 Location: Layton Utah Posts: 218	interesting conversation, good info here. __________________ 91 Tracker 6" Calmini lift 32x11.50 BFG MT TA Locked rear!

10-25-2002, 08:49 AM	#4 (permalink)
Jeepmangled87 ROCK & ROLL OFFROAD Join Date: Mar 2001 Member # 3906 Location: ROCK AND ROLL OFFROAD Dallas/Ft.Worth Tx. Posts: 6,130	My buddy at work has this on his 02 Superduty, and it will smoke the tires really good. He says it seems to have helped quite a bit, he loves his and says its the best things he ever done to his truck.

10-31-2002, 02:44 PM	#8 (permalink)
40-O Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Member # 3277 Location: TN Posts: 107	cheap propane inj please tell us how! __________________ why say anything if you have nothing to say 90 toy w/ twincamtacopower coilovers tube and stuff

10-31-2002, 06:50 PM	#9 (permalink)
spudwrench Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Member # 7324 Location: Ramona, ca. Posts: 86	its very simple, ill try to explain it. i suck at internet so i cant post pics now. i have a 5 gal tank located in custom mount in gang box on flatbed. gas runs through hose (i got at welding shop) from bottle to acetylene regulater and then 12v valve. the valve cost about 40$ (ill have to dig up the scource for youall) fom there it runs straight into the air duct between filter and turbo. awile back i vented the crankcase to the atmosphere( to keep oil out of intercooler) so i had natural spot to run the hose. i carefully tapped the housing 3/8" npt. and put a fitting there. no orifice or anything, just hose and brass fitting in duct. i got a cool little project box from radio shack to mount the switch.its black plastic with an aluminium faceplate. i put a toggle switch (napa, no cheap ass plastic switches please) and two indicator lights on it and mounted under dash. i put a 4 p.si. pressure switch (napa, Hobbs switch, just like used for oil pressure.) on the hose under the turbo. that way when turbo boost = 4p.s.i the switch closes. i tried a foot pedal switch but this works much better. gas only comes on when engine under load, and works with cruise control) now wire it up so when you flip switch on it turns on light #1 (armed) and sends power to pressure switch on engine. other side of switch goes to ppane valve out back, and light #2 (go baby,go) set regulator at about 5 p.si and run it. keep turning it up till engine doesnt like it then lower pressure to safe. it takes awile to get it just right, i run a bout 15 or so. aftermarket kits may be more more precise with with fuel delivery, i dont know, ive never used them. i can tell you this works, its power you can definately feel! ive never cared about mileage so i dont have any numbers for you, but it will improve diesel consumption. egt's dont get that hot, but pay attention to that while going up the cajon pass at 85+ mph. ican send someone pics if they will post them here for me. __________________ if the factory would have built it that way, they would have fucking nailed it!

10-31-2002, 06:55 PM	#10 (permalink)
spudwrench Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Member # 7324 Location: Ramona, ca. Posts: 86	oh yeah, and dont forget the little chrome toggle switch extension so you can slap it on/ off without looking!

11-01-2002, 02:35 PM	#12 (permalink)
COMPLAINE Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 2800 Location: Danville, Ca Posts: 1,083	spudwrench's pics spudwrech's first pic: Attached Images __________________ Carpe Diem!

11-01-2002, 02:36 PM	#13 (permalink)
COMPLAINE Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 2800 Location: Danville, Ca Posts: 1,083	spudwrench's pics spudwrench's second pic: Attached Images __________________ Carpe Diem!

11-01-2002, 02:37 PM	#14 (permalink)
COMPLAINE Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 2800 Location: Danville, Ca Posts: 1,083	spudwrench's pics spudwrenches third pic: Attached Images __________________ Carpe Diem!

11-01-2002, 02:38 PM	#15 (permalink)
COMPLAINE Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 2800 Location: Danville, Ca Posts: 1,083	spudwrench's pics spudwrench's fourth last pic: Attached Images __________________ Carpe Diem!

11-01-2002, 06:14 PM	#16 (permalink)
spudwrench Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Member # 7324 Location: Ramona, ca. Posts: 86	hey, thanks COMPLAINE for posting them. the pics look cloudy because i dropped the camera in a creek. i guess you shouldnt do that.

11-03-2002, 07:51 PM	#17 (permalink)
JR2 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Member # 13475 Location: Eagle River, Alaska Posts: 52	I little more expensive than propane...but will make your truck hum and you don't have to carry a propane bottle (aka BOMB) in the back of your truck www.edgeproductsinc.com/ford_ez.html __________________ Insert signature here...

12-10-2002, 07:35 AM	#18 (permalink)
Desert Jeepin Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Member # 717 Location: Ridgecrest, CA Posts: 4,120	Do you have a source for the valve yet???

12-10-2002, 08:21 PM	#19 (permalink)
spudwrench Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Member # 7324 Location: Ramona, ca. Posts: 86	i cant find the receipt but im pretty sure it said Meeder Equip Co. look there. ill keep digging.

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