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brewchief · 11-20-2010, 05:42 PM

Friend of mine wants to sell his enclosed gooseneck with living quarters, what would a fair price for it be?
specs
36' Haulmark trailer, triple axle(5200# torsion axles)
17' garage space
10' living quarters plus sleeping bunks over gooseneck
bathroom with shower and toilet
kitchen with cooktop/oven, sink, RV fridge(propane/120v)
furnace
rooftop a/c
50 gal fresh water
separate black and grey water tanks
propane/120v water heater

trailer needs a fair amount of overall finish up work, everything works decent but there are some things that aren't the prettiest.
My early bronco fits in the back but it's only on 35s, not sure you could get anything much larger to fit.
couple pics

drnut · 11-20-2010, 06:55 PM

I don't know if its "fair" but i got a $100 for it! I can pick up too! lol

lumberjack1986 · 11-20-2010, 07:31 PM

Nice looking, but 3 5k axles majorly sucks. I wouldn't buy it.

brewchief · 11-20-2010, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjack1986

Nice looking, but 3 5k axles majorly sucks. I wouldn't buy it.

Why do they suck?
I think empty the trailer weight is about 6500-7000 lbs, before we added the living quarters, probably 8k-9k now. You still have 6k plus 20% tongue weight for payload.

FWIW I can load my bronco in the back(4000-4500 lbs) and drive three hours at 70-75 mph and the tires/bearings are still cool to the touch.

406 YJ · 11-20-2010, 08:04 PM

As an RVIA cert. Interior guy I can tell you that the interior is 100% homebrew and doesn't add much value to it. I've bought and sold a lot of trailers. What year is it? I'd give 4500 for it if my buggy would fit and it's not old as hell or beat to snot. I just bought a NEW 24' trailer for 3800 Black skin with chrome on the lower part, drop down ramp.

Problem I have found is that not everyone has a GN hitch or a truck big enough to pull them. I myself only like to pull GN trailers. But it cuts the market in half. A lot of guys pull this type of trailer with a toter and most are set up for a bumper style hitch or even trucks for that part. For me the GN is a win, win but to the next guy he may not have a GN hitch and it isn't something he would look at.

On board generators are what most guys want as well. Does it have that? If not you have to put a genertor in there and set it outside when you get somewhere. It's a lot bigger PITA than just hitting the start button, from a guy who has been there. I'd like to own it if my junk would fit but I'm giving you a straight answer.

brewchief · 11-20-2010, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 406 YJ

As an RVIA cert. Interior guy I can tell you that the interior is 100% homebrew and doesn't add much value to it. I've bought and sold a lot of trailers. What year is it? I'd give 4500 for it if my buggy would fit and it's not old as hell or beat to snot. I just bought a NEW 24' trailer for 3800 Black skin with chrome on the lower part, drop down ramp.

Problem I have found is that not everyone has a GN hitch or a truck big enough to pull them. I myself only like to pull GN trailers. But it cuts the market in half. A lot of guys pull this type of trailer with a toter and most are set up for a bumper style hitch or even trucks for that part. For me the GN is a win, win but to the next guy he may not have a GN hitch and it isn't something he would look at.

Interior is indeed homebrew and needs some work for sure, I think it's a 1996, we reskinned it in 2001 or 2002 because we bought it at night and didn't realize the graphics that were on it at the time were all painted with just a few vinyl stickers. When we skinned it we added foam insulation to the walls. Currant lettering is all vinyl except for the rear door and I think we have new siding for that as well.

No generator, does plug in to RV type power source at campgrounds though.

lumberjack1986 · 11-21-2010, 07:57 AM

I don't care for torsion axles or tridems anyways, but 5200lb axles on a 36' trailer is just silly. Torsion axles can't equalize, and they have precious little travel. Going over a small bump and you'll be carrying axles. If a manufacturer uses cheap axles, chances are they used more cheap/ ill suited componentselsewhere. While you can polish a turd, it's generally not worth the effort.

Do you want to be pushing against max gross every time you use a trailer built with cheaper components?

mbryson · 11-21-2010, 09:08 AM

I'd swap him a 26' bumper pull flatbed for it.

bpm4x4 · 11-21-2010, 02:44 PM

Here's something to compare to: http://desmoines.craigslist.org/mcy/2068629750.html

406 YJ · 11-21-2010, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bpm4x4

Here's something to compare to: http://desmoines.craigslist.org/mcy/2068629750.html

Not the same beast and that trailer is WAY over priced. 17000 on a trailer that is 10 years old?

bpm4x4 · 11-21-2010, 05:51 PM

I was thinking that it was priced high too, but I was not sure how much they were going for.

11-20-2010, 05:42 PM	#1 (permalink)
brewchief Rock God Join Date: Apr 2006 Member # 71185 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,569	What's this worth? Friend of mine wants to sell his enclosed gooseneck with living quarters, what would a fair price for it be? specs 36' Haulmark trailer, triple axle(5200# torsion axles) 17' garage space 10' living quarters plus sleeping bunks over gooseneck bathroom with shower and toilet kitchen with cooktop/oven, sink, RV fridge(propane/120v) furnace rooftop a/c 50 gal fresh water separate black and grey water tanks propane/120v water heater trailer needs a fair amount of overall finish up work, everything works decent but there are some things that aren't the prettiest. My early bronco fits in the back but it's only on 35s, not sure you could get anything much larger to fit. couple pics Attached Images

11-20-2010, 06:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
drnut Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Member # 855 Location: Fontana,Ca Posts: 1,968	I don't know if its "fair" but i got a $100 for it! I can pick up too! lol __________________ The worst day of rockcrawling is better than the best day at work!

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406 YJ Owner TWF Join Date: Apr 2007 Member # 89489 Location: Wichita, Kansas Posts: 6,007	As an RVIA cert. Interior guy I can tell you that the interior is 100% homebrew and doesn't add much value to it. I've bought and sold a lot of trailers. What year is it? I'd give 4500 for it if my buggy would fit and it's not old as hell or beat to snot. I just bought a NEW 24' trailer for 3800 Black skin with chrome on the lower part, drop down ramp. Problem I have found is that not everyone has a GN hitch or a truck big enough to pull them. I myself only like to pull GN trailers. But it cuts the market in half. A lot of guys pull this type of trailer with a toter and most are set up for a bumper style hitch or even trucks for that part. For me the GN is a win, win but to the next guy he may not have a GN hitch and it isn't something he would look at. On board generators are what most guys want as well. Does it have that? If not you have to put a genertor in there and set it outside when you get somewhere. It's a lot bigger PITA than just hitting the start button, from a guy who has been there. I'd like to own it if my junk would fit but I'm giving you a straight answer. __________________ www.TrailWorthyFab.com TWF Double Beadlock Wheels, Cheap 37" Tires, PitBull Tire dealer, RaceLine Wheel dealer, Rock rings, Wheel centers, Custom Splice winch rope, PVC inserts, O rings, Hummer wheels, NIB Rubber Runflats, Rockwell Axles, Marsh Racing dealer, 37" Guard Dogs, Cheap LED Light bars, Loud Horns

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11-20-2010, 07:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
lumberjack1986 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Member # 116416 Location: Columbus, MS Posts: 471	Nice looking, but 3 5k axles majorly sucks. I wouldn't buy it.

11-21-2010, 07:57 AM	#7 (permalink)
lumberjack1986 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Member # 116416 Location: Columbus, MS Posts: 471	I don't care for torsion axles or tridems anyways, but 5200lb axles on a 36' trailer is just silly. Torsion axles can't equalize, and they have precious little travel. Going over a small bump and you'll be carrying axles. If a manufacturer uses cheap axles, chances are they used more cheap/ ill suited componentselsewhere. While you can polish a turd, it's generally not worth the effort. Do you want to be pushing against max gross every time you use a trailer built with cheaper components?

11-21-2010, 02:44 PM	#9 (permalink)
bpm4x4 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Member # 14572 Location: Las Moines, CT Posts: 70	Here's something to compare to: http://desmoines.craigslist.org/mcy/2068629750.html

11-21-2010, 05:51 PM	#11 (permalink)
bpm4x4 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Member # 14572 Location: Las Moines, CT Posts: 70	I was thinking that it was priced high too, but I was not sure how much they were going for.