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Old 07-01-2011, 07:47 PM   #76 (permalink)
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Bump for updates. Anybody towing with one of these yet?
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Bump for updates. Anybody towing with one of these yet?
There are a few people over on rv.net that are towing with them. The majority "claim" that they are getting lower then expected fuel economy but the trucks tow like their old 6.0 and 6.4 PSD or 5.9 CTD or Duramax. I find it very hard to believe.
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Old 07-01-2011, 08:23 PM   #78 (permalink)
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Anyone else thinking that if they would offer this motor in the rangers it would bring back sales enough to continue selling them in the states?
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Old 07-02-2011, 06:07 AM   #79 (permalink)
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Anyone else thinking that if they would offer this motor in the rangers it would bring back sales enough to continue selling them in the states?
Not unless the Ranger was significantly cheaper or got a lot better mpg.

I think they should keep the Ranger small, but put in a turbo 4 cyl and shoot for 30 mpg....if they made a 4 seater version, I'd buy it.
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They built the new 6.2 to carry the ecoboost technology in the initial design of the engine so we shall see
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Twin turbo, 6.2 liter V8 ecoboost direct injection...... Sends a chill up my leg
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Well the local dealer has two identical loaded crew cab fx4 ecoboost trucks so if they can give me pay off on my six blow f250 I wil be driving one home soon......
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Twin turbo, 6.2 liter V8 ecoboost direct injection...... Sends a chill up my leg
That would be nice with about 25 mpg


















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Old 07-17-2011, 04:06 PM   #84 (permalink)
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Well the local dealer has two identical loaded crew cab fx4 ecoboost trucks so if they can give me pay off on my six blow f250 I wil be driving one home soon......
well? im in the same boat with the 6.0 and looking for a new truck. i dont really tow enough to justify keeping the diesel. BUT i do tow my car hauler and trail rig 6 times or so a year. just want to hear from someone else towing 6000-9000 lbs loaded and what they think. good decision or worst decision of their life?
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What are the axle/hitch ratings on those 1/2 tons these days? Were they built with a 5th wheel in mind?
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Cool! now get a load on it and let us know how it does.
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Old 07-18-2011, 05:16 AM   #88 (permalink)
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It is rated to pull up too 11300 lbs. I have the 5.5 bed so no fifth wheel for me but i dont have one so thats fine with me.
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Looks good! I'll be interested to know how it pulls in comparison to the 6.0 Superduty as well.

But first - are you one of those "cant even notice the D6 dozer behind me" types? Haha
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Lol no I'm not one of those guys but I did tow about 12k and you could tell it was behind you but it handled that load fine other than puking coolant
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Ford is behind the times as usual. Not saying that the engine is good or bad, just that it is not revolutionary in any way. First off the name "Eco-boost" is complete horse shit.

There is nothing eco about it. A turbo charger crams more air into an engine than a non turbo motor and the immediate assumption is that you have to burn more fuel to keep stochiometric ratios in balance. The Japanese and European car companies have been using turbos on small engines as opposed to fitting larger v8 or v10 engines for DECADES.

Direct injection is not a new technology either. It was invented in 1925 by a Swedish engineer and the Japanese car companies have been using it on production cars since the late 90s.

In typical stupid American marketing drama, Ford comes out with "Eco-boost" and proclams loudly to the world how wonderful their new engine is, while the Japanese and Germans are laughing their asses off..

Subaru has a 2.5L boxer four with a single turbo that makes 300hp and 300 pound feet of torque. Again Ford is behind the curve.

Mercedes has a diesel 3L inline 6 and v6 engines making 225hp or so and almost 400 foot pounds of torque. In a 4000 pound (curb) sedan highway mileage is low mid 30's. These motors can easily be modified to over 300hp and well over 500 foot pounds of torque with a simple chip.

So instead of trying to hood wink everyone on Eco boost, they should be selling small diesel v6 and inline 6 engines that have all the benefits of "eco boost" and then some.

PS: Ford's engine testing cant be that strenuous or difficult (at least on the diesel side) or they would not have had three HORRIBLE diesel engines that starting breaking almost immediately upon production. How do you test something for millions of miles and proclaim it good and put it in a production vehicle and it blows up or breaks in 10k or 20k miles.

Maybe they have finally learned their lessons or they are starting to and this will be the exception. I'm not bashing on Ford particularly, just the processes of the American car companies and their mentality.
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Ive always noticed how Ford uses marketing to its fullest to make their products seem out of this world and what not ....


Wait wait wait, you mean Ford's main goal in a company is to sell trucks, no shit.... You're comprehension and masterful grasp of marketing is amazing. The simple fact is they produced a truck no one else has yet to do in the states. They built exactly what the american public wanted, a powerful 1/2 ton gas engine that can tow 11K+ and get 20+MPG on the highway.

Do I want a 1/2 ton diesel? Yep, don't see it happening any time soon though. Americans are still hesitant on diesels, and until diesel isn't a dirty word anymore it doesn't matter how efficient they are, building a truck that your customer's don't want is a good way to go bankrupt, just ask GM.

IF (and that's a big ass IF considering Ford's recent engines) this engine survives public torture tests, it'll change the technology of all the full size pickups in the states
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Lol no I'm not one of those guys but I did tow about 12k and you could tell it was behind you but it handled that load fine other than puking coolant
Did it squat down the rear of the truck pretty hard? What cased the radiator to overflow? And, if you don't mind me asking, what was the purchase price before your trade-in? This truck fits my needs the the T and I assume probably most of Americans.
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Sorry that was with the 6.0 not the ecoboost. Sticker on it was 45855
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i drove a 2011 ecoboost, 4 dr 2wd f150 yesterday. fully loaded lariat with all the bells and whistles (i like air conditioned seats!). sticker price was 46 and some change. i have a f250 right now and am looking to get something new. I was thoroughly impressed with the truck. i didnt tow anything, but it definately had the power. at about 10 mph it will white smoke the tires. accelerated very smoothly and there was no turbo lag like in my 6.0. think im going to hold out 1 more year to wait and see what problems show up with the engine. maybe wait until christmas or so to pick one up.
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I think I am going to give it a year to work some bugs out. I would really like to have the 5.0 with eco technology.
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I really want to see what the mileage is towing.

Not that I tow A LOT of weight (mostly around 8k pounds) but I tow frequently, more than your average guy (probably 45 weekends a year). My f250 is getting between 13-15 towing depending on where we're headed. Problem is, its also getting 13-15 around town. I'm seeing some room for improvement with one of these trucks just curious to what they're doing under load.

The ol' F250 has given me 241k relatively easy miles, nothing major has gone wrong aside from your usual tranny rebuild at 130k, but its time to start looking as I'd like to get 300k out of this truck, which the way I'm going will be this time next year if not sooner.
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I'm interested to hear how they do towing at elevation. I live at 6,500' with 4-5 passes to go over to get anywhere worth a damn for wheeling.

I'm hoping some of the mines pick some up, that should be a good torture test. Most of the mines run gasser f150's currently.
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I'm interested to hear how they do towing at elevation. I live at 6,500' with 4-5 passes to go over to get anywhere worth a damn for wheeling.

I'm hoping some of the mines pick some up, that should be a good torture test. Most of the mines run gasser f150's currently.
by design a turbo (or any forced induction) engine is less affected by high elevation (thinner air) then a N/A engine .... so it should be superior to the V8/V10 gasser
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I think I am going to give it a year to work some bugs out. I would really like to have the 5.0 with eco technology.
Yeah, I am thinking the same thing. I was reading on another forum about some really bad mileage and rough idle/missing guys are getting in these trucks.
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Yeah, I am thinking the same thing. I was reading on another forum about some really bad mileage and rough idle/missing guys are getting in these trucks.
If you drive it like a v8, it will burn gas like a v8. It is only more efficient when out of the boost. It take x amount of fuel to make y hp. It is chemistry.
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