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Old 06-04-2011, 03:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Trailer axle swap ?

After searching for a bit and not finding what i need, ill ask. I got a good deal on a car trailer a while back but after doing the math, i dont think it will hold up under my junk. The trailer is rated for 7000, itself weighing 1900, leaving me 5100 to work with. The junk is a k1500 on rocks and 44's. My question is, can i swap the 3500 lb. axles to 5000 lb. axles, and reuse the brakes on the trailer now? After looking at axles they all seem to run the same bearing diameter so id like to save some cash if i can. Appreciate all the information and help i can get, thanks.
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Old 06-04-2011, 04:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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How much does your 2.5t'ed K1500 weigh?
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Old 06-04-2011, 04:49 PM   #3 (permalink)
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What kind of axles are they? I know on Dexter axles none of the parts will interchange. You'd need new wheels and tires too, and the trailer itself might not be up to the heavier load - it'd probably be fine, but if you've gotta buy all that stuff anyway, it might be better to sell that one and get another.
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Its a good question. gvwr is 5200 on the door sticker. but with a 454, rockwells, and 44" boggers im not sure. Havent had much luck finding out what the actual weight of a 93 k1500 is. Im sure its on here somewhere.
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Not entirely sure what the axles are, havent crawled under to look yet. Its a falcon trailer with 5 lug electric brake axles. Dont know if its possible to swap the hubs and breaks from one axle to another if they are from the same manufacturer. Think id be able to reuse the rims atleast that way. Ive considered selling it for a heavier duty one but if i can swap the axles and reuse the rest its not to expensive.
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Sell the trailer and buy what you need. To make the upgrade you are after, you will need to replace everything attached to the leaf springs, including the leaf springs.


No. There is no other way to do it.
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Its a good question. gvwr is 5200 on the door sticker. but with a 454, rockwells, and 44" boggers im not sure. Havent had much luck finding out what the actual weight of a 93 k1500 is. Im sure its on here somewhere.
I was asking because my 1-tonned, exo-ed 97 K1500 with 42's is a bit over 7500lbs.

I think you're asking a lot out of a little.
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Kind of figured it would be more work then its worth. Best guess i had about my truck was close to about 8000 pounds. Thank you all for the advice
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Sell the trailer and buy what you need. To make the upgrade you are after, you will need to replace everything attached to the leaf springs, including the leaf springs.


No. There is no other way to do it.
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This... he's right. I just did a trailer axle swap very similar to what you're discussing. I had tandem 3500lb axles that came with the trailer. From trailhead abuse and overloading, I had a number of problems that warranted a complete redo. I purchased 2" Slipper springs to replace the stock 1 3/4" leaves. My old setup was eye-to-eye and three of the shackles were cracked, not to mention shot wheel bearings. I shouldn't have that issue with the new setup.

I picked up a set of 5200# Rockwell trailer axles with 95" WMS and 81" perches. While I was at it I made a subframe out of 2x3-3/16" rectangular tubing and did a frame lift. New 16" rims with a 6-bolt pattern were also required. My two-inch tongue was already rated for 10,000lbs so I'm good to go there.

My trailer is about 5 years old and paid for. The whole swap cost about $2400... $1100 for tires and wheels, $1100 for axles and springs, and $200 for steel.

Before my last wheeling trip I decided to swing by the quarry and have my junk weighed. The trailer weighed in at 6980 with my Jeep, tools, gas and firewood. That means I had been towing at 100% rated capacity all the time. I haven't done any upgrades to the trailer deck itself, but when I had it turned over, there were absolutlely no signs of wear or overloading. I didn't really do the swap to increase my load capacity since the state patrol will still go by the GVWR stamp on the trailer, but at least I feel much safer towing with a 30% safety factor now... and when it gets three-wheeled off-road it's much less likely to bend an axle.

I have some pictures I will try to post up tonight.

A new trailer with a tilt-bed like this would easily top $4500.00 here.
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Thank you all for the advice. After checking more into the swap, the trailer is for sale. Rather get what i need then sink the money into this one.
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