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Fab_4X4 · 10-30-2007, 11:43 PM

Looks like Toyota is thinking of building a 4 door FJ. Pretty cool.

FJ Runnner

Wilson · 10-30-2007, 11:51 PM

Looks like a dressed up 4runner to me. wish they'd do a removable top and solid axle guess they need the soccer mom sales though, instead of a real retro-style wheeling rig.

4runner Freak · 10-31-2007, 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilson

Looks like a dressed up 4runner to me. wish they'd do a removable top and solid axle guess they need the soccer mom sales though, instead of a real retro-style wheeling rig.

X2.
The rear door handle would be a PITA. Also for the rear gate. Always have to have 4 feet of clearance behind you.
4runner Cab, FJ Front end.

Pietro · 10-31-2007, 09:20 AM

and I quote from the builder:

"I wanted to make the FJ Runner a lot more masculine, a lot more mean. Something that would make the FJ Cruiser look like a sissy"

Nothing says masculine and mean like big rims and shiny paint

I imagine that all the fab work to put an FJ front clip on a 4Runner body is complicated and time consuming (not disrespecting that) but where is the innovation behind putting an FJ clip on a 4Runner?

85blue4runner · 10-31-2007, 02:52 PM

that is what happens you let an import car guy build an 'FJ cruiser'

it looks to me like a 4th gen runner with some FJ cruiser parts tacked onto it... rear door sucks and so does the double door handle thingy...

simple truck or SUV with diesel and SFA will sell, not soccer mom numbers, but it will sell and should be cheap to design and build...

.02

RockMolester · 10-31-2007, 03:09 PM

All that time and money, and the POS STILL doesn't have a solid front axle.

What's the point?

Fab_4X4 · 10-31-2007, 09:51 PM

I think they did a pretty good job. As far as the idea goes, it was Toyota who went to them, not the other way around. There's a lot worse they coulda done when asked to make a "FJ Runner"

94toytruck · 10-31-2007, 10:22 PM

Why?

03f350 · 10-31-2007, 10:26 PM

that thing is gay as shit
"we never build off road vehicles"
they still havent IMO!

Beat95YJ · 10-31-2007, 10:34 PM

I thought it looked good in person. Much better than a 4runner.

crash · 10-31-2007, 10:57 PM

Interesting concept-------for going to the store

I will have to say the new FJ is pretty cool--talked my mom into one and she just loves it...

forsakenfuture · 11-01-2007, 02:04 PM

I like it.I just dont care for the goofy sized rims.

FJCruisin_Wa · 11-01-2007, 03:14 PM

did he just call my FJ a sissy?

X2 on the door handle... what a pain that would be.

Sillyneck · 11-01-2007, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FJCruisin_Wa

did he just call my FJ a sissy?

X2 on the door handle... what a pain that would be.

hhahahaa I think he did. hiroshima part deux anyone?

Concept design teams need some more extreme @-holes to push the envelope rather than the "I put some polished billet here and there" folks.

4xflyin · 11-01-2007, 10:29 PM

Toyota couldn't find someone else to build a project vehicle? Totally fawkin gay. Total waste.

Beat95YJ · 11-02-2007, 07:43 AM

I think those that don't like it feel it should be a wheeler, while those that do like it (myself included) feel it is just a stylish SUV.

I like it, but I don't consider it a hard core offroad truck. It would easily replace my 4WD Tahoe or my Grand Cherokee as a daily driver, moderate tow rig and Baja/desert exploration vehicle.

Rockcrawling is not the only use for 4WD.

RockMolester · 11-02-2007, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beat95YJ

Rockcrawling is not the only use for 4WD.

Absolutely true. However, Toyota already has all of these light-duty IFS 4x4's:

RAV4
Highlander
4Runner
Tacoma
Tundra
Sequoia
Land Cruiser
RX350
GX470
LX470

The FJ Cruiser is the 4x4 they built to market towards the off-road crowd. It's the one they advertise heavily in the 4x4 magazines. It's the one they think competes against the Wrangler. But its 4x4 system and suspension are no different than their other light-duty 4x4's, and quite frankly under-built for the power and weight of the vehicle - especially when you factor trail use into its intended use. A 7.5" and 8" ring gear? Gimme a break! The diffs in my 80hp 2400lb Suzuki Sidekick are almost that big!

Sorry I'm so bitter; I just really wanted to like the FJ. But real-world off-road use has confirmed the vehicle's on-paper deficiencies. I'll be sticking to my solid-axle Toyotas until they can design a better setup than my 1985 4Runner.

Pietro · 11-02-2007, 09:38 AM

Toyota does know how to manufacture real offroad vehicles. Welcome to America where we get nothin' but shit. Overseas, you can still get a solid axle cruiser that seats up to 11 with factory snorkel and winch along with a choice of petrol and diesel powerplants. Go to the toyota website and click on the webpages for australia and europe. They make a ton of shit most Americans have never seen or heard of.

RockMolester · 11-02-2007, 09:55 AM

Exactly my point.

Toyota wanted a vehicle they could market towards off-roaders. And we got the FJ instead.

Beat95YJ · 11-02-2007, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockMolester

Absolutely true. However, Toyota already has all of these light-duty IFS 4x4's:

RAV4
Highlander
4Runner
Tacoma
Tundra
Sequoia
Land Cruiser
RX350
GX470
LX470

The FJ Cruiser is the 4x4 they built to market towards the off-road crowd. It's the one they advertise heavily in the 4x4 magazines. It's the one they think competes against the Wrangler. But its 4x4 system and suspension are no different than their other light-duty 4x4's, and quite frankly under-built for the power and weight of the vehicle - especially when you factor trail use into its intended use. A 7.5" and 8" ring gear? Gimme a break! The diffs in my 80hp 2400lb Suzuki Sidekick are almost that big!

Sorry I'm so bitter; I just really wanted to like the FJ. But real-world off-road use has confirmed the vehicle's on-paper deficiencies. I'll be sticking to my solid-axle Toyotas until they can design a better setup than my 1985 4Runner.

The 4Runner is listed above so now I am real confused. I look at it as a 4Runner with a new clip, not a 4 door FJ Cruiser or LandCruiser.

RockMolester · 11-02-2007, 10:31 AM

My point is that Toyota currently has 11 4x4's for sale in America, but not one with a pair of solid axles.

techman · 11-03-2007, 08:43 AM

LC 70 already available with 4 doors and solid axles, oh yeah a deisel engine too. Whats better is that Toyota already builds it. To bad we can't have it here

RockMolester · 11-05-2007, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by techman

LC 70 already available with 4 doors and solid axles, oh yeah a deisel engine too. Whats better is that Toyota already builds it. To bad we can't have it here

How hard/expensive would it be for Toyota to bring a vehicle like that to the US? Crash and emissions standards are the biggest hurtles for federalization, but if they take that into consideration when designing the vehicle, their additional cost would be minimal and they would sell a zillion of them here!

Pietro · 11-05-2007, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by techman

LC 70 already available with 4 doors and solid axles, oh yeah a deisel engine too. Whats better is that Toyota already builds it. To bad we can't have it here

I'm not a big fan of the grille and hoodscoop on that rig but full floating axles, snorkel, and steelies make that da cats ass in my book

Not to mention its a diesel rig too

RockMolester · 11-05-2007, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pietro

I'm not a big fan of the grille and hoodscoop on that rig but full floating axles, snorkel, and steelies make that da cats ass in my book

Not to mention its a diesel rig too

Damn right.
I would go down to a Toyota dealership and buy a couple of those TODAY if they offered it here. But instead, I'm "preaching to the choir" by whining to the the Pirate board.

10-30-2007, 11:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
Fab_4X4 Banned Join Date: Aug 2007 Member # 96905 Posts: 8	SEMA: FJ Runner Video Looks like Toyota is thinking of building a 4 door FJ. Pretty cool. FJ Runnner

10-30-2007, 11:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
Wilson Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Member # 7233 Location: Paradise, CA Posts: 17,080	Looks like a dressed up 4runner to me. wish they'd do a removable top and solid axle guess they need the soccer mom sales though, instead of a real retro-style wheeling rig. __________________ [COLOR=Red][SIZE=4]ECV 7-11[/SIZE][/COLOR] Serving up a Tsunami of Swagger

10-31-2007, 09:20 AM	#4 (permalink)
Pietro Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Member # 38563 Location: Waterboro, ME Posts: 2,465	and I quote from the builder: "I wanted to make the FJ Runner a lot more masculine, a lot more mean. Something that would make the FJ Cruiser look like a sissy" Nothing says masculine and mean like big rims and shiny paint I imagine that all the fab work to put an FJ front clip on a 4Runner body is complicated and time consuming (not disrespecting that) but where is the innovation behind putting an FJ clip on a 4Runner? __________________ 95' 4Runner with 5VZ engine WTB...winch bumper 84' M1031 CUCV 37's, 8kW gen

10-31-2007, 03:09 PM	#6 (permalink)
RockMolester Rock God Join Date: Mar 2004 Member # 28602 Location: Echo Summit, CA Posts: 1,338	All that time and money, and the POS STILL doesn't have a solid front axle. What's the point? __________________ 2010 Jeep Rubicon: Daily driven rockcrawler BlueRibbon Coalition: Fight to keep public lands open to the public!

10-31-2007, 10:26 PM	#9 (permalink)
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10-31-2007, 02:52 PM	#5 (permalink)
85blue4runner Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Member # 33536 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,142	that is what happens you let an import car guy build an 'FJ cruiser' it looks to me like a 4th gen runner with some FJ cruiser parts tacked onto it... rear door sucks and so does the double door handle thingy... simple truck or SUV with diesel and SFA will sell, not soccer mom numbers, but it will sell and should be cheap to design and build... .02

10-31-2007, 09:51 PM	#7 (permalink)
Fab_4X4 Banned Join Date: Aug 2007 Member # 96905 Posts: 8	I think they did a pretty good job. As far as the idea goes, it was Toyota who went to them, not the other way around. There's a lot worse they coulda done when asked to make a "FJ Runner"

10-31-2007, 10:34 PM	#10 (permalink)
Beat95YJ Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Member # 22176 Location: Redondo Beach Posts: 8,749	I thought it looked good in person. Much better than a 4runner. __________________ I can break a steel ball in a rubber room!

10-31-2007, 10:57 PM	#11 (permalink)
crash Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Aug 2000 Member # 1588 Location: GOLDBAR Posts: 12,654	Interesting concept-------for going to the store I will have to say the new FJ is pretty cool--talked my mom into one and she just loves it... __________________ Why is it we all are for doing the same thing--but yet we can not work together to achieve it Mike Crash Kash The new live streaming video crashfab Crashfab Shopcam

11-01-2007, 02:04 PM	#12 (permalink)
forsakenfuture Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Member # 39726 Location: Monett,Missouri Posts: 518	I like it.I just dont care for the goofy sized rims.

11-01-2007, 03:14 PM	#13 (permalink)
FJCruisin_Wa Wheeler Join Date: Oct 2007 Member # 101125 Location: Washington Posts: 339	did he just call my FJ a sissy? X2 on the door handle... what a pain that would be.

11-01-2007, 10:29 PM	#15 (permalink)
4xflyin Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Member # 48209 Location: West Hills, CA Posts: 458	Toyota couldn't find someone else to build a project vehicle? Totally fawkin gay. Total waste.

11-02-2007, 07:43 AM	#16 (permalink)
Beat95YJ Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Member # 22176 Location: Redondo Beach Posts: 8,749	I think those that don't like it feel it should be a wheeler, while those that do like it (myself included) feel it is just a stylish SUV. I like it, but I don't consider it a hard core offroad truck. It would easily replace my 4WD Tahoe or my Grand Cherokee as a daily driver, moderate tow rig and Baja/desert exploration vehicle. Rockcrawling is not the only use for 4WD. __________________ I can break a steel ball in a rubber room!

11-02-2007, 09:38 AM	#18 (permalink)
Pietro Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Member # 38563 Location: Waterboro, ME Posts: 2,465	Toyota does know how to manufacture real offroad vehicles. Welcome to America where we get nothin' but shit. Overseas, you can still get a solid axle cruiser that seats up to 11 with factory snorkel and winch along with a choice of petrol and diesel powerplants. Go to the toyota website and click on the webpages for australia and europe. They make a ton of shit most Americans have never seen or heard of. __________________ 95' 4Runner with 5VZ engine WTB...winch bumper 84' M1031 CUCV 37's, 8kW gen

11-02-2007, 09:55 AM	#19 (permalink)
RockMolester Rock God Join Date: Mar 2004 Member # 28602 Location: Echo Summit, CA Posts: 1,338	Exactly my point. Toyota wanted a vehicle they could market towards off-roaders. And we got the FJ instead. __________________ 2010 Jeep Rubicon: Daily driven rockcrawler BlueRibbon Coalition: Fight to keep public lands open to the public!

11-02-2007, 10:31 AM	#21 (permalink)
RockMolester Rock God Join Date: Mar 2004 Member # 28602 Location: Echo Summit, CA Posts: 1,338	My point is that Toyota currently has 11 4x4's for sale in America, but not one with a pair of solid axles. __________________ 2010 Jeep Rubicon: Daily driven rockcrawler BlueRibbon Coalition: Fight to keep public lands open to the public!

11-03-2007, 08:43 AM	#22 (permalink)
techman Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Member # 1722 Location: The Beautifull Central Coast CA Posts: 378	whats wrong with this one LC 70 already available with 4 doors and solid axles, oh yeah a deisel engine too. Whats better is that Toyota already builds it. To bad we can't have it here Attached Images __________________ 4 wheel for God Last edited by techman; 11-03-2007 at 08:44 AM. Reason: more info

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