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Old 08-05-2015, 08:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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New F-Toy #777 Build

Hey guys. Ihave hit a wall and need some direction. My chassis has been ordered with custom number, see link below for reasoning.

Here is my question.

I am building a Formula Toy 5-seat and have been surfing Pirate for a long time for knowledge. Needless to say, I have searched, but am coming to a dead end based on dated threads.

Does the inchworm adapter for the Toyota A340H to use dual transfer cases still exist? I have emailed LowRange since all indicatins are they took over Inchworm but have recieved no replies. The web site has minimal tech info, so I am not sure.

If you want to see my build, its currently on FB and my blog, The Spike

Please feel free to comment, but keep the language to a minimum. I know all about the AT issues, but want to keep the auto for many reasons. If you read the blog early posts, you will see why.

Thanks in advance for your help. A build thread will be posted when all the parts are in order.
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The tear down is almost complete. Just sharing in case anyone is following.

I did find the drive train stuff and answers.

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5 seats kids or all adults
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The plan is for my 3 kids, but a PRP bench would allow 2 adults or 3 kids to fit, so that i the plan.

Hobie, if you have another suggestion, I met you at a 4x4Him Calico event years ago and respect your ideas for sure. Iam learning 100% here.
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The plan is for my 3 kids, but a PRP bench would allow 2 adults or 3 kids to fit, so that i the plan.

Hobie, if you have another suggestion, I met you at a 4x4Him Calico event years ago and respect your ideas for sure. Iam learning 100% here.
thanks! hit up hoppas thread for some ftoy guidance. we recently been going over everything from scratch there.
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Which thread? I have over 20 bookmarked with notes.
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Which thread? I have over 20 bookmarked with notes.
This has a lot of Hobie's Formula Toy wisdom.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/toyot...ate-party.html
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Read and bookmarked.

I wish mine would go that fast, but money looks like the projected time frame is 12-18 months, but I am a learning fabricator so who knows.
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Read and bookmarked.

I wish mine would go that fast, but money looks like the projected time frame is 12-18 months, but I am a learning fabricator so who knows.
12 months is fast. You will be surprised how long all the little things take. It will seem like your getting a ton off stuff done, then it will seem like you will never finish.
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12 months is fast. You will be surprised how long all the little things take. It will seem like your getting a ton off stuff done, then it will seem like you will never finish.
yes dont be depressed later when: you have the drivelines and suspension and seats in but your less than half way done. all of that stuff takes the least amount of time. the other 1000 things to deal with and fabricate take forever.
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Thanks. I will keep realistic timelines.
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Started.
I hope you work fast, I will be there Saturday. If you can keep build pics I will bring a thumb drive to add to my website for the build.

#777 is being built!
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That was pretty fast.
Looks light weight.

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For some reason my thread subscription is not working, glad to see. I am excited.

At work now (1130p) then off at 630 and we hit the road.

See you around dinner time.
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It's home! I need to get it lifted off some how to keep working on the chassis. My small garage is quickly out of space, but the length of the chassis matches the frame almost exactly, so the existing cross members will be removed to add the beefy ones from Hendrix, but the frame won't be cut as far as I can see.

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Reviving my thread with another question.

Update, I have a dual transfer case setup now to go behind the 22re and automatic a340f for a complete lineup.

I have searched and read, but there seems to be 2 schools of thought, so I need input on my specific build.
Do I mount the engine in stock location or move it back 6-7 inches and drop 1-2 inches?
Remember, I am building a family buggy, so seating in the rear is necessary. It's a slow build, but it's coming along.
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Mine was in the stock position when I bought it. Currently rebuilding everything and moved the drivetrain back.

Moved back allows for the winch and radiator to fit without going in front of the spring hangers. Still have decent footwell room (better driver than passenger) and the rear output is still between the front seats. Pedals are actually next to the bell housing.
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exactly what he said. don't get too caught up in how many inches its back from stock. its a family rig so just put everything in the buggy where it goes best. if you start from the front and work backwards, you have the grill, headlights, winch, radiator, engine - all of that just barely squeezes right in there before the valve cover hits the ftoy lower windshield x tube. don't run a flat bottom skid plate, you will have much more room for 4 seats and floor room if you run the tcase at least 2 to 4" lower than the bottom of the frame.
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exactly what he said. don't get too caught up in how many inches its back from stock. its a family rig so just put everything in the buggy where it goes best. if you start from the front and work backwards, you have the grill, headlights, winch, radiator, engine - all of that just barely squeezes right in there before the valve cover hits the ftoy lower windshield x tube. don't run a flat bottom skid plate, you will have much more room for 4 seats and floor room if you run the tcase at least 2 to 4" lower than the bottom of the frame.
Thanks Hobie. Ever since meeting you and Mustard Dog at a Calico Jamboree I have appreciated your input. I will get the entire thing assembled them play with distances.

How about mounts? Bomb proof mounts on engine, transmission, both? I have a horse collar for the tcase the guy gave me.
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Thanks Hobie. Ever since meeting you and Mustard Dog at a Calico Jamboree I have appreciated your input. I will get the entire thing assembled them play with distances.

How about mounts? Bomb proof mounts on engine, transmission, both? I have a horse collar for the tcase the guy gave me.
no we have found that the best mounts are solid mounts at the engine then run one stock tcase mount. the stock tcase mount will give a little but this is what you want it to do, this way, the solid mounts at the engine will do all the work and not fight a solid tcase mount with twisting action. if you run solid tcase mount, eventually you will crack the tcase housings. look at bud built for a tcase cross member.
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no we have found that the best mounts are solid mounts at the engine then run one stock tcase mount. the stock tcase mount will give a little but this is what you want it to do, this way, the solid mounts at the engine will do all the work and not fight a solid tcase mount with twisting action. if you run solid tcase mount, eventually you will crack the tcase housings. look at bud built for a tcase cross member.
So no horse collar?
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I just thought I woud revive this thread. C4x4Online Magazine has picked up my project coverage as well as some things have finally fallen into place. This project should be completed this year, by summer hopefully. We have made more progress, and you can read all about it at projectthespike.blogspot.com
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