Formula 4?....... jus get'n started

[66fj40x2]

Howdy!
Been lurk'n for a bit, try'n to decide what to with a rust bucket '79 LWB..... Formula 4 sounds like to a very do'able option for it as a family wheel'n rig.

I haven't found any pics of F4 rigs finished...... Anyone wanna share?

Also try'n to get an idea on costs for the project (chassis, skins, frame mods, etc.)

Any help would be greatly appriciated.

Thanks,
Mike

[desertoy]

Originally Posted by 66fj40x2

Howdy!
Been lurk'n for a bit, try'n to decide what to with a rust bucket '79 LWB..... Formula 4 sounds like to a very do'able option for it as a family wheel'n rig.

I haven't found any pics of F4 rigs finished...... Anyone wanna share?

Also try'n to get an idea on costs for the project (chassis, skins, frame mods, etc.)

Any help would be greatly appriciated.

Thanks,
Mike

Start lookin at the many F-Toy buildups on this board to figure out what you want to do. If you have the fab skills, great. If not let me know and I can hook you up with a rolling chassis.
the reason you can't find any Formula 4 pic's is because there is only one that is even close to wheeling and I don't think it is completely done yet.

for chassis information go to www.hendrixmotorsports.com

If you already have a donor truck you need to plan on spending $10,000 to get started. This is just for parts. If you need some of it built for you it will cost more.

John

[willbeis]

"If you already have a donor truck you need to plan on spending $10,000 to get started. This is just for parts."
I don't think that's an accurate statement.
I know, I know you guys are building one to raffle off and I'm sure that it the best there is BUT that doesn't mean he can't build one for a lot less.
I don't think it's good to discourage anyone from building, do you?

[SanDiegoCJ]

Originally Posted by willbeis

"If you already have a donor truck you need to plan on spending $10,000 to get started. This is just for parts."
I don't think that's an accurate statement.
I know, I know you guys are building one to raffle off and I'm sure that it the best there is BUT that doesn't mean he can't build one for a lot less.
I don't think it's good to discourage anyone from building, do you?

DToy isn't saying that the raffle truck has $10k in parts in it, it's a LOT more
than that, he's saying that realistically it will cost $10k to build a basic F-Toy.
I KNOW this is accurate because I personally know some people that have
built them and that's the average cost.

[66fj40x2]

10k probably isn't unrealistic. I'm sure I've got more then that in my FJ40. That doesn't really discourage me. More like it encourages me to see how much under that I can stay.

desertoy - Thanks for the info. I'd sure like to see one of the F4's with the seats mounted. I'm 6'2" and leg room is important

[SanDiegoCJ]

Originally Posted by 66fj40x2

10k probably isn't unrealistic. I'm sure I've got more then that in my FJ40. That doesn't really discourage me. More like it encourages me to see how much under that I can stay.

desertoy - Thanks for the info. I'd sure like to see one of the F4's with the seats mounted. I'm 6'2" and leg room is important

I'm also considering building an F4 for two reasons. First off, I'm tall like you, 6' 3" and secondly I'd like the added room to stow gear like coolers and other
camping stuff. I want to use it as a trail-rig, so that extra room will help out
on those 1 week trips on the Rubicon.

[gm500hprat]

That sounds like a accurate amount of money to build a functional rig. But how about giving the guy a parts break down of your estimate. He is probably thinking that he has a drivable complete rig and only has to spend 1400 on a chassis do a little welding and he's good to go. Maybe a breakdown would give him a better understanding.

[66fj40x2]

Originally Posted by gm500hprat

That sounds like a accurate amount of money to build a functional rig. But how about giving the guy a parts break down of your estimate. He is probably thinking that he has a drivable complete rig and only has to spend 1400 on a chassis do a little welding and he's good to go. Maybe a breakdown would give him a better understanding.

That'd help ... if nuth'n else to show the stuff most folks don't think 'bout.

Chassis
Pig axles
Longfield's
Marlin gears
Propane
Suspension seats
Harnesses
Lockers
Winch w/synthetic cable
Aluminum beadlocks
Tires
Suspension (springs, links whatever)
Shocks
Misc steel for brackets, tabs, skins and such

[desertoy]

You guys are all big boys, call Marlin Crawler or Trail Gear and get prices on that stuff. I have a price breakdown for all of the fabricated parts like spring mounts, x-members, floor, fire wall, etc.
E-mail me and I will send you a price list

[66fj40x2]

Originally Posted by desertoy

You guys are all big boys, call Marlin Crawler or Trail Gear and get prices on that stuff. I have a price breakdown for all of the fabricated parts like spring mounts, x-members, floor, fire wall, etc.
E-mail me and I will send you a price list

I wasn't implying that you fill in the prices for the list. It was just a list of SOME of the parts for the build that I can think of..... Feel free to add to the list tho

Mike

[66fj40x2]

The Low-Buck Beater build has begun.....

'85 clean, straight, LWB frame $ free
22R, runs, needs carb work (most likely propane) $ case of beer
'86 rear axle, complete drum to drum $100


Need tranny and t-case recommendations please....

[SanDiegoCJ]

Originally Posted by 66fj40x2

The Low-Buck Beater build has begun.....

'85 clean, straight, LWB frame $ free
22R, runs, needs carb work (most likely propane) $ case of beer
'86 rear axle, complete drum to drum $100


Need tranny and t-case recommendations please....

For a trans ..................... W56

[a2b]

Originally Posted by 66fj40x2

The Low-Buck Beater build has begun.....

'85 clean, straight, LWB frame $ free
22R, runs, needs carb work (most likely propane) $ case of beer
'86 rear axle, complete drum to drum $100


Need tranny and t-case recommendations please....

a low buck beater build would be carbed. a trail rig wont have trouble with a carb, unless you like driving it upsidedown.

and did you already get that 86 rear? you can practically get those early rearends for nothin. thats what mike and jake run on thier ftoy. there, i just saved you 1100 bucks.

[local3toy]

My wife and I are also thinking about an f4 chassis also and Hendrix has no Pics on there website. Can you send some pics of your bare chassis if you have it please

[SeaBass44]

Originally Posted by local3toy

My wife and I are also thinking about an f4 chassis also and Hendrix has no Pics on there website. Can you send some pics of your bare chassis if you have it please

they do show 2 4seater X chassis, should be very very similar looking

[FatA$$ Toyota]

Originally Posted by 66fj40x2

The Low-Buck Beater build has begun.....

'85 clean, straight, LWB frame $ free
22R, runs, needs carb work (most likely propane) $ case of beer
'86 rear axle, complete drum to drum $100


Need tranny and t-case recommendations please....

Hey man,

I see you are from KS. I would like to come by and take a look at a formula rig being built in person. Not sure where you are but I am in Derby.

I am also wanting to build a formula 4 seater. I will build one someday but will have to use my stock 4 runner rear seat cause I gotta have room for 5 people.

Let me know when you get your chassis and get started, if you dont mind, I will stop in one day and take a gander.

Aaron

[66fj40x2]

Aaron,

Ain't much to look at yet but my pm'ed ya my phone number.

Mike

[Lorney Davis]

Me and my brothers have both finished our formula fours (#F012 & #F013 if you send me a reply with your email i will send you pics. or if i remember i will post some later. if your lookin to do a cheap build up it shouldnt cost you 10K in parts like i read earlier in the post both of our rigs have dual cases and gears and work amazing and we only have about 13K put in to building both of them and thats including the price of the donor trucks too. send me an email address and i will send you pics.

CRAZYman776@aol.com

[local3toy]

We have the F4 # 10 that is will be on the trail in a couple of weeks. We did a low budget build. It has 39.5 IROK's on it. We are you guys wheeling at.

[Skii4x$]

Holy old thread, where did this come from??

[mcbridemichael50]

its the formula 4 chassie but instead of putting seats i made a platform for a tool box. i am selling it for $8,000.00 if you are interested. its a great buy. i do know for a fact it is very expensive to build one. it's alot more than i planed. i have about $12,000-$15,000 in mine.

check mine out

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