Ftoy baja style? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

mc2az · 11-25-2009, 10:23 AM

Got turned on to the FTOY recently & find it very interesting. Currently 4wheel with an OME suspended 98 XJ. Like the idea of the FTOY for arizona fun. Wondering if anyone has thoughts on the FTOY for desert-baja style racing, like SCORE or BITD. Seems like a low budget way to get into the sport. Wonder what class that would fit in if any. Maybe a start to a new class like JEEP SPEED did?

MT4Runner · 11-25-2009, 11:26 AM

BITD already set up the Ultra4 class; it's unlikely that another 4wd class would open up anytime real soon.

How about an XJ drivetrain in an X-chassis? If you put that XJ running gear in a buggy, it would be pretty competitive (although a lot of the Ultra4's are running LS-engines, D60's, bypass shocks, and 39-42" tires)

X-chassis is similar in layout and construction to the FToy, but has a subframe and is set up for links. FToy chassis' are designed to attach to a stock Toy minitruck frame with leafs.

mc2az · 11-25-2009, 12:08 PM

Thats what I thought about the FTOY, cheap start with an early TOY 4x4, basic fab skills, tune suspension for desert runnin vs crawlin, slap on the Hendrix cage- bingo.... your hangin out with IVAN & the big boys in Ensanada. Well I know it's really not that easy but the concept???

desertoy · 11-25-2009, 01:27 PM

I have raced the last 3 King of the Hammers in the Marlin Crawler Formula Toy and it did real well. I think it would be a blast in desert racing, especially if you could up the horse power a little. to compete in the formula Toy Rock Crawling you have to use a 22r (or RE) motor. But if you weren't interested in making it legal for cone dodging, I would put a turbo charged 3RZ in it. That, a set of bypass shocks and dropping down to a 35" tire and it would haul ass across the desert.

Jeff Knoll · 11-25-2009, 01:57 PM

Ftoy could race U4 as long as it passed tech. The Ftoy has proven reliable at the last three koh races so I think long distant desert races would be the best bet for a win.

mc2az · 11-25-2009, 02:02 PM

WOW! I didn't the think the Marlin pilot himself would jump on this that quick. I have been lurking on here for awhile studying all the FTOY builds & write ups and just joined this AM. Been thinkin this desert racing thing for some time when I found you FTOY guys have some great ideas. I thought there's no way my budget would let me do anything but go and be a spectator, but you guys may just present some options. I wonder if an FTOY would fit in a class in one of the closer to home 250-500 mile BITD races.

I posted before you gave me the answer to my question....U4

BeaterToyota · 11-25-2009, 06:04 PM

For Baja style, what about an F-Toy that runs a long travel IFS instead of a SFA?

http://www.chaosfab.com/95200.html

Mustard Dog · 11-25-2009, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeaterToyota

For Baja style, what about an F-Toy that runs a long travel IFS instead of a SFA?

http://www.chaosfab.com/95200.html

I think that idea was thrown around a while back but nobody jumped on it. With the whole Ultra 4 class blowing up it might be worth revisiting.

crawlerJunkie · 11-26-2009, 10:12 AM

not a ifs fan, but it is growing on me. if built right.. would kick ass

Albuquerque Jim · 11-29-2009, 12:39 PM

IMO, the light weight of the F-Toy chassis, especially with the drive train moved back 8", would help the IFS survive.

11-25-2009, 10:23 AM	#1 (permalink)
mc2az Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Member # 147008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 3	Ftoy baja style? Got turned on to the FTOY recently & find it very interesting. Currently 4wheel with an OME suspended 98 XJ. Like the idea of the FTOY for arizona fun. Wondering if anyone has thoughts on the FTOY for desert-baja style racing, like SCORE or BITD. Seems like a low budget way to get into the sport. Wonder what class that would fit in if any. Maybe a start to a new class like JEEP SPEED did?

11-25-2009, 11:26 AM	#2 (permalink)
MT4Runner IDIot! Join Date: Mar 2005 Member # 44480 Location: Kalispell, MT Posts: 16,623	BITD already set up the Ultra4 class; it's unlikely that another 4wd class would open up anytime real soon. How about an XJ drivetrain in an X-chassis? If you put that XJ running gear in a buggy, it would be pretty competitive (although a lot of the Ultra4's are running LS-engines, D60's, bypass shocks, and 39-42" tires) X-chassis is similar in layout and construction to the FToy, but has a subframe and is set up for links. FToy chassis' are designed to attach to a stock Toy minitruck frame with leafs. __________________ Motive Gear Land Use Team http://www.tenfactory.com http://www.motivegear.com http://www.nationaldrivetrain.com http://www.davezoffroadperformance.com http://www.mastercraftsafety.com FToy 086 - UHaul Toterhome

11-25-2009, 01:27 PM	#4 (permalink)
desertoy Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 292 Location: Apple Valley Ca Posts: 4,511	I have raced the last 3 King of the Hammers in the Marlin Crawler Formula Toy and it did real well. I think it would be a blast in desert racing, especially if you could up the horse power a little. to compete in the formula Toy Rock Crawling you have to use a 22r (or RE) motor. But if you weren't interested in making it legal for cone dodging, I would put a turbo charged 3RZ in it. That, a set of bypass shocks and dropping down to a 35" tire and it would haul ass across the desert. Attached Images __________________ John James Team Marlin Crawler X-Chassis #12 6 time KOH finisher 2008/2009 W.E. Rock West Coast Series Champion 2008 Pro Rock Champion Just "HAMMER" it!! My Buildup /forum/general-4x4-discussion/298203-desertoy-mustard-dog-build-pair-x-chassis.html

11-25-2009, 01:57 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jeff Knoll MotorsportsSolutions Join Date: Sep 2002 Member # 13974 Location: Chaos Posts: 4,595	Ftoy could race U4 as long as it passed tech. The Ftoy has proven reliable at the last three koh races so I think long distant desert races would be the best bet for a win. __________________ California Motorized Recreation Council (CMRC) Board Member Carrera Performance Group Clients include, Off Road Business Association International Side X Side Association OffRoadPress.com SXSPerformance.com Carrera Performance Group, LLC Off Road Solutions, from Marketing to Management

11-25-2009, 02:02 PM	#6 (permalink)
mc2az Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Member # 147008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 3	WOW! I didn't the think the Marlin pilot himself would jump on this that quick. I have been lurking on here for awhile studying all the FTOY builds & write ups and just joined this AM. Been thinkin this desert racing thing for some time when I found you FTOY guys have some great ideas. I thought there's no way my budget would let me do anything but go and be a spectator, but you guys may just present some options. I wonder if an FTOY would fit in a class in one of the closer to home 250-500 mile BITD races. I posted before you gave me the answer to my question....U4 Last edited by mc2az; 11-25-2009 at 02:11 PM.

11-25-2009, 12:08 PM	#3 (permalink)
mc2az Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Member # 147008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 3	Thats what I thought about the FTOY, cheap start with an early TOY 4x4, basic fab skills, tune suspension for desert runnin vs crawlin, slap on the Hendrix cage- bingo.... your hangin out with IVAN & the big boys in Ensanada. Well I know it's really not that easy but the concept???

11-25-2009, 06:04 PM	#7 (permalink)
BeaterToyota Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Member # 29757 Location: Right Coast Posts: 259	For Baja style, what about an F-Toy that runs a long travel IFS instead of a SFA? http://www.chaosfab.com/95200.html __________________ '88 Toyota Dual cases and dents.

11-26-2009, 10:12 AM	#9 (permalink)
crawlerJunkie Wheeler Join Date: Jan 2007 Member # 85085 Location: wyoming Posts: 381	not a ifs fan, but it is growing on me. if built right.. would kick ass __________________ TEAM UNINVITED FORMULA TOY 032 UNLIMITED 540

11-29-2009, 12:39 PM	#10 (permalink)
Albuquerque Jim Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Member # 24948 Location: ABQ Posts: 291	IMO, the light weight of the F-Toy chassis, especially with the drive train moved back 8", would help the IFS survive. __________________ 2000 4Runner, Marlin Crawler, Dual Lockers, 35's, Sonoran Steel, etc... Formula Toy #81...Someday!

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