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Old 09-06-2011, 08:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Operation: WTH was I thinking

or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Sawzall...

Long story short, the TLC needs some TLC. She was parked at my parents place for the past 5 years or so and was sadly neglected. Now that I finally have a place to work on the old girl it's time to fix the cancer and all the hacked crap that has been done to her.

The first thing I did when I got it down here was start prodding at the bubbled paint below the tailgate....bad idea The whole rear sill is gone along with the back of both 1/4 panels. I contemplated how to tackle it, but in the end wanted to keep the full body so I order some budbuild 1/4 panels.

Other plans are to stretch the rear some more. Thinking about FJ-60 rear springs but every time I find a set I don't hear back from the person so I might end up with waggy springs in the rear. If anyone has a rear pair of 60 springs you know who to contact Also going to redo the traction bar, rear shock mounts, and x-members while I'm down there. A new cage, seats, and fuel cell are also on the list. Originally I was planning on contracting the cage out but I picked up a copy of Bend-Tech so I might give it a whirl...or ruin a ton of DOM, either way. And lastly I hope an Orion find's it's way in there at some point. Also need to make a new skid and x-member down there as well.

I want to hit Cruise Moab next year but I just bought a house so progress will probably be slow.


On the way to her new home in Arizonaahh
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Cruiser cancer
Also the tailgate is in pretty bad shape. Probably the one part that pisses me off the most. I'm going to try to fix it but I'm not getting my hopes up.
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Old 09-06-2011, 08:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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And with all that bondo I found I'm learning that this isn't the first time she had the cancer.

Haven't gotten much done yet. Mocked up the BudBuilt 1/4 panels and started unbolting junk. Ended up having to cut the rear bumper off I was hopping to reuse it as the rear x-member but guess not. I'll have to wait till next week so I can get some help to get the cage and fuel tank out before I can start welding the the support braces and cutting out the 1/4 panels.
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Not much progess, work gets in the way of cruiser time


Finally finished up a cross member for the trans/tcase. Originally it was mounted to the stock skid plate but that was a joke as it was flimsy and hung low. I'll build a new skid later and for the most part it should be flat except for under the tail end of the tcase

Filled in the fuel door on the new 1/4 panels. I'm going to ditch the stock tank for fuel cell and have the filler neck on the driver side so that I can fill it up on the trailer without having to fill up the truck and move to fill up the 40.


Would have gotten more done today but I sliced my hand open
Next is to pull the cage and tank and add some bracing before cutting the rear out. Also need to get a 220 line run to the garage, unplugging the dryer is getting old.
Also have a crazy idea of a 4-link but I'm hoping that's just from the loss of blood
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Im on my way to home plate on a similar build. Did a frame off though, but rust issues were very similar.

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Cool to see you back.

Are you going to rivet the quarter in place?

What did they cost from Budbuilt? Is that steel?
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Old 09-30-2011, 11:03 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I'm glad to be done with the web wheeling, or almost

I'm going full retard and cutting the old panels out and welding these in and using a section of 2x2 box to replace whats left of the rear seal. I originally thought it was a rust free cruiser years ago but I keep finding bondo I Figured I'm never going to sell her so I need to get this rust crap taken care of now before the body just falls off.

Panels are 3/16" steel I wanna say they were $350 shipped for the pair.

Gonna hopefully try to make cruiser moab next year.
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Sounds like I need to make a trip down the mountain to Lenoir, have a chat with Bud. I didn't know he sold those panels. Does he do installation work also?

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Sounds like I need to make a trip down the mountain to Lenoir, have a chat with Bud. I didn't know he sold those panels. Does he do installation work also?

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He will also offset the wheel opening for those with stretched wheelbase and eliminate the gas door opening for those not in need.
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He will also offset the wheel opening for those with stretched wheelbase and eliminate the gas door opening for those not in need.
Now you tell me, I didn't even think to ask.
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Now you tell me, I didn't even think to ask.
Lol, I looked at the pictures after and was like "oops".

Yeah, I emailed him because I have an aluminum tub and wanted to beef up the sides, change the wheel opening and since I am running propane, eliminate the door opening.

I think you should do the 4 link, WTH right?
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Kinda what I'm thinking. I'm already in over my head, why stop now . I got to drive dhondagod's 40 a while back and really liked his setup with the 1/4 elliptical.

I was actually reading a lot about propane setups last night. What motor are you running and did you put the setup together yourself or did you get it as a kit? How much propane do you typically go thru in a day? I've had great luck with the qjet but eventually need to take the FI plunge. Can probably get 2 33lb forklift tanks for the price of a fuel cell and hardware. Gas station just down the street has propane so filling up locally won't be an issue.
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Im on my way to home plate on a similar build. Did a frame off though, but rust issues were very similar.

Good luck!
Thanks. I've been lurking on mud getting ideas from your build and a few others. I'd love to pull the body and clean everything up better but I know there's no way I'd ever finish if I took it that far. After all can't make it too pretty, its still gotta be dragged across the rocks after all!
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Kinda what I'm thinking. I'm already in over my head, why stop now . I got to drive dhondagod's 40 a while back and really liked his setup with the 1/4 elliptical.

I was actually reading a lot about propane setups last night. What motor are you running and did you put the setup together yourself or did you get it as a kit? How much propane do you typically go thru in a day? I've had great luck with the qjet but eventually need to take the FI plunge. Can probably get 2 33lb forklift tanks for the price of a fuel cell and hardware. Gas station just down the street has propane so filling up locally won't be an issue.
I used a "Got Propane" kit and was very happy with it, Cary was awesome to deal with.

I will generally use an entire tank in a day of running trails, that is leaving my parents house in Moab, driving to the trail, running it for about 6-8 hours and coming home. I then pull the tank and refill it. I run two tanks to be safe. I use about the same amount in propane that my buddies do in gasoline, I am running a stock 2F.

Propane works well but has its obvious disadvantages.

1. I need to build a rack above the tanks for tool and cooler mounting, the Propane takes it up.

2. Removing and switching tanks can be a hassle at times, just requires a little extra planning.

3. not spilling fuel or having starvation issues is awesome.

4. The lack of wiring makes it simple and easy to diagnose.

5. I have not noticed any real power loss with tuning (timing and A/F adjustments).

6. Your friends will tease you (mine did) about having a BBQ truck, but they don't tease you at fill up where your fuel is generally about a dollar less or more.

I am purchasing more tanks as I like to have extras, I'll build a rack in my Ford to hold the extras when I trailer the rig to wherever.

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can't wait to see her done ... great to see you back at it again
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Old 01-25-2012, 02:59 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I should have named this thread "I bet I can take longer than flatty"

I just cut the open area part of the body panel off then came back and grabbed the part that is spot welded to the wheel well with some vice grips and yanked. Pulled right off, thank you rust
I was surprised how well the new panel fit up, just popped right into place.

At this rate I'll be finished by christmas if I'm lucky Going to take some vacation this month to try to make some progress.
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Nice start on your build. Oh yeah, your 40 is 'rust free' compared to the 40's out here...
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I've been flip-floppin on buying a set of those quarter panels for a long time but now after seeing them in place and knowing I can omit the gas filler and move the wheelwell opening, I'm going to take some measurements tonight and order a set TOMORROW!
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You won't be disappointed. You can see the radius of the bend in them so if you're doing a stock resto they might not be the best choice but for something that's going to smack into rocks they're perfect.
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You won't be disappointed. You can see the radius of the bend in them so if you're doing a stock resto they might not be the best choice but for something that's going to smack into rocks they're perfect.
I thought you gave up, nice to see you at it again.
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I thought you gave up, nice to see you at it again.
Work gets in the way and I work nights so by time I wake up the day is half over

Got a little more done. Passenger side is all welded up and just needs a little more sanding. Driver side about half way welded.
Replaced the rear seal with some 4x2 I had laying around...should be strong enough Welded a dropped down lip onto the 4x2 so the floor could sit on the lip and fit flush with the 4x2.
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Hopefully finish up the welding and fill in a few more random holes tomorrow and then cut the rockers and figure out what I'm going to do there. Found the drain holes were plugged so the bottom of the rockers is good as gone.

Next I need to buy a bender and start wasting tube

Also need to find a couple of tweaked out meth heads to finish scraping up the rest of the herculiner. I hate that crap
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Are you just welding edges of the plate corners to the sheet metal where you cut the old shit out? Looking to do this to my 40 tub and I'm not sure if I want to cut the old stuff out or just bolt on the plate similar to how the jeep crowd installs corner guards....
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