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Rockmonky · 11-24-2001, 10:36 PM

I dont know how rare these are but i think there bad azz
found them here about the 3rd add down
there was also a extendedcab fj45 on there somewere too

http://www.sor.com/sor/class2.tam?rlk=324280

ranger · 11-25-2001, 02:58 PM

Look at the prices! Typical SOR classifieds, its rare if you see something for sale thats not WAY overpriced.

Tracknod · 11-25-2001, 04:13 PM

Is it me or is the newer SOR website really slow to load. It always takes forever here on my T1.

Shane

rick d · 11-25-2001, 10:00 PM

I must comment on 45 wagons, since I know a little about them.

There are roughly 125 wagons left in the US, some of those should have left us (they are parts trucks, but owners cannot come to have them depart from this earth). Since, I am the head of the wagon registry I know this statistic. I would guestimate there are equal numbers of swb (some removable, some non removable tops) in the US. There are at least 3 times if not 5 times that number of lwb pick ups (and I would say 60% have tailgates and headache bars). Considering there are today at least 125, 1964 FJ40's still around, the 4+ year US production (1963-1967) 45s are all rare. On the Specter site, two 45 wagons are offered for $3,950 obo. Which, for two 35 year old station wagons (in the same place) is in the ballpark (never like $18,500 for a unrestored 1966 FJ45 lwb BS). Maybe a score can be found for one under $1,000. I doubt a truck like that will ever be back on the road. Granted, some people not only at Specter, but other sites and ebay believe their trucks to be worth a mint (remember landcruiser.com w/ $26K the average price!). I would just say to all, think about the value etc.

That being said, a clean low rust/no rust-but needing love, running, registered, 45 wagon should bring $6,000 if nearly complete. Less with body damage, rot (not 'rust'), missing stuff...etc. Same for a 'less rust' (meaning even cleaner) than above swb or lwb (original conditions). Since I have been watching 45 wagon sales, prices never spiked and unlike many other LC's have remained stable. (low, 10 cents, high $16,000 (#2 high was $9K), mean $3,200)

wngrog · 11-26-2001, 07:29 AM

Rick,

What do you think a SWB FJ-45 with a frozen motor but excellent body and interior is worth?

Tailgate no headache bar.....

Interior has one rip.

heavytlc · 11-26-2001, 04:48 PM

Rick you are the Wagonmaster.
I just would like to sell any of my trucks for 10% of the price most people ask.
It sounds like more wagons have surfaced.Got any input Rick?

rick d · 11-26-2001, 06:43 PM

Equation for team aloha to win on the rocks:

where "A" =purchase $ of LC

A X 10% (sale of LC) = 16 sammi's

16 sammis = 14 fuel injected running sammi's

14 runners + Klune V = win on rocks

rick

Rockmonky · 11-26-2001, 08:53 PM

thanks for all the info Rick
sence you seam to know alot about these whats the deal
on the 4 door 45's can you get just the body's or is there only a few out there>?

heavytlc · 11-27-2001, 09:06 AM

Rick you are too funny.For some reason I am still laughing.You speek the truth.
I thought with the present situation in the usa the price of cruisers would go down, but for now it seems they have just stabilized. THEY ARE STILL DOING BETTER THAN MY STOCKS.I should be done with the 45 (rolling not running in 3 months) I think when it is finished I will look for a bj like we discused.
Are you still working on the floorpans/body sheetmetal for the wagons.

wngrog · 11-27-2001, 09:26 AM

Is this Jason?

If so, I have a bunch of pictures of your rig from ARCA Farmington I can send you if you shoot me your address.

Check out some of the shots in my Photopoint site in my signature....

Taylor · 11-28-2001, 08:39 PM

Rick
How have you been? We have Two Fj45 wagons and Two
Fj45 swb Trucks and now Two FJ 45 lwb trucks We are trying to keep the 45s alive and well. Hope every one else does the same.
Taylors

calfj60 · 12-03-2001, 12:11 AM

Rick, good to see you answering the 45 wagon qustions. How is your project going? got any pics? also how do I go about registering my wagon? thanks

orangefj45 · 12-03-2001, 07:47 PM

rick! your input is always great and well apreciated.

hope everybody here allready knows about the 45 run we're planning for next august at bassey falls up by rubicon.
are you coming rick? you absolutely must! can't wait for the camp fire stories!
cheers, georg!

rick d · 12-04-2001, 06:22 AM

Errr, ummm, I am stalled in the bodywork phase. I am also a bit financially held up to get things done on the wagon. Tim, the chassis is like you saw it, but I am progressing on the body slowly. A 70 series dash in a 40 series is not an easy thing. So Georg, I won't be making the run in my machine. Dough you know!?

rick

ToyTech · 12-04-2001, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by calfj60
Rick, good to see you answering the 45 wagon qustions. How is your project going? got any pics? also how do I go about registering my wagon? thanks

Hey now, if you'd sold the FJ40 to me, you could have spent all that time and money on the 45, right?

calfj60 · 12-04-2001, 11:13 AM

Toytech yeah but if I sold you the old 40, then I would be back in the same place. All dead cruisers:-( I acn only have so many non-working cruisers at once. And since the 60 and 45 aren't anywhere running I need atleast one to keep me happy. So sorry no sale.

60seriesguy · 12-04-2001, 11:19 AM

He, he, the classic "too many Cruisers dilemma"!

I love it when my friends get into these situations (often), it makes me feel better about my own stalled project. Besides, it makes me (a single-Cruiser Cruiserhead) look like a rock star in front of my wife, thus making approval of funds for my project more feasible.

I know this doesn't apply to CalFJ60, but he scored a wife who's actually into Cruisers, mine's tolerant but not an enthusiast...

calfj60 · 12-04-2001, 11:27 AM

60 cruiser guy, hey thanks for the credit regarding my wife but I wouldn't go that far. She likes my cruisers and is tolorant of my projects but what she wants is a truck of her own and only you know what that is:-) Thanks for that email address and maybe we will see you out west again soon.

60seriesguy · 12-04-2001, 11:36 AM

Well, at least she likes them! My wife wants her own Cruiser too, but it's an FZJ80...YIKES!

You'll *definitely* see me on the other coast soon, I'm shooting for late 2002 or early 2003. Once I'm back, you won't be able to drag me back to the East Coast with wild horses...

ToyTech · 12-04-2001, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by calfj60
She likes my cruisers and is tolorant of my projects but what she wants is a truck of her own and only you know what that is:-)

Bloody Hell! A Land ****r?

At least it won't be right hand drive

ToyTech · 12-04-2001, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 60seriesguy
You'll *definitely* see me on the other coast soon, I'm shooting for late 2002 or early 2003. Once I'm back, you won't be able to drag me back to the East Coast with wild horses...

We'll always welcome good Cruiserfolk in these parts

calfj60 · 12-04-2001, 04:25 PM

hell if it was up to me, I would be up for a RHD with 4 doors and a stinky motor

But you know how the government frowns on stuff like that. so we will hve to do without or settle on a standard U.S. one.:-(

11-24-2001, 10:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
Rockmonky Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Member # 988 Location: Elizabeth Colorado Posts: 470	found some 45 wagons I dont know how rare these are but i think there bad azz found them here about the 3rd add down there was also a extendedcab fj45 on there somewere too http://www.sor.com/sor/class2.tam?rlk=324280 __________________ Real jeeps have round frame's Last edited by Rockmonky; 11-24-2001 at 10:38 PM.

11-25-2001, 04:13 PM	#3 (permalink)
Tracknod Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Member # 3669 Location: Home of the Rat, FL Posts: 321	Is it me or is the newer SOR website really slow to load. It always takes forever here on my T1. Shane __________________ Your friend is the one you call to bail you out of jail. Your best friend is the one sitting next to you saying, 'Dude, that was fucking awesome!'

11-26-2001, 07:29 AM	#5 (permalink)
wngrog Moderating Midget Join Date: Jun 2000 Member # 1154 Location: Canton, MS Posts: 22,065 Blog Entries: 4	Rick, What do you think a SWB FJ-45 with a frozen motor but excellent body and interior is worth? Tailgate no headache bar..... Interior has one rip. __________________ Nolen Grogan 1997 FZJ-80 Land Cruiser, 37's 2010 RZR-4 www.cottonlandcruisers.com www.rockmidgetphotography.com USAF Veteran 1988-1998 GOD Bless America

11-26-2001, 08:53 PM	#8 (permalink)
Rockmonky Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Member # 988 Location: Elizabeth Colorado Posts: 470	thanks for all the info Rick sence you seam to know alot about these whats the deal on the 4 door 45's can you get just the body's or is there only a few out there>? __________________ Real jeeps have round frame's

11-27-2001, 09:26 AM	#10 (permalink)
wngrog Moderating Midget Join Date: Jun 2000 Member # 1154 Location: Canton, MS Posts: 22,065 Blog Entries: 4	Teamaloha? Is this Jason? If so, I have a bunch of pictures of your rig from ARCA Farmington I can send you if you shoot me your address. Check out some of the shots in my Photopoint site in my signature.... __________________ Nolen Grogan 1997 FZJ-80 Land Cruiser, 37's 2010 RZR-4 www.cottonlandcruisers.com www.rockmidgetphotography.com USAF Veteran 1988-1998 GOD Bless America

11-25-2001, 02:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
ranger Registered User Join Date: Jul 2000 Member # 1282 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 4,819	Look at the prices! Typical SOR classifieds, its rare if you see something for sale thats not WAY overpriced.

11-25-2001, 10:00 PM	#4 (permalink)
rick d Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Member # 1849 Location: old pueblo Posts: 493	I must comment on 45 wagons, since I know a little about them. There are roughly 125 wagons left in the US, some of those should have left us (they are parts trucks, but owners cannot come to have them depart from this earth). Since, I am the head of the wagon registry I know this statistic. I would guestimate there are equal numbers of swb (some removable, some non removable tops) in the US. There are at least 3 times if not 5 times that number of lwb pick ups (and I would say 60% have tailgates and headache bars). Considering there are today at least 125, 1964 FJ40's still around, the 4+ year US production (1963-1967) 45s are all rare. On the Specter site, two 45 wagons are offered for $3,950 obo. Which, for two 35 year old station wagons (in the same place) is in the ballpark (never like $18,500 for a unrestored 1966 FJ45 lwb BS). Maybe a score can be found for one under $1,000. I doubt a truck like that will ever be back on the road. Granted, some people not only at Specter, but other sites and ebay believe their trucks to be worth a mint (remember landcruiser.com w/ $26K the average price!). I would just say to all, think about the value etc. That being said, a clean low rust/no rust-but needing love, running, registered, 45 wagon should bring $6,000 if nearly complete. Less with body damage, rot (not 'rust'), missing stuff...etc. Same for a 'less rust' (meaning even cleaner) than above swb or lwb (original conditions). Since I have been watching 45 wagon sales, prices never spiked and unlike many other LC's have remained stable. (low, 10 cents, high $16,000 (#2 high was $9K), mean $3,200)

11-26-2001, 04:48 PM	#6 (permalink)
heavytlc Rock God Join Date: Sep 2001 Member # 6946 Location: nc/sc Posts: 1,382	Rick you are the Wagonmaster. I just would like to sell any of my trucks for 10% of the price most people ask. It sounds like more wagons have surfaced.Got any input Rick?

11-26-2001, 06:43 PM	#7 (permalink)
rick d Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Member # 1849 Location: old pueblo Posts: 493	Equation for team aloha to win on the rocks: where "A" =purchase $ of LC A X 10% (sale of LC) = 16 sammi's 16 sammis = 14 fuel injected running sammi's 14 runners + Klune V = win on rocks rick

11-27-2001, 09:06 AM	#9 (permalink)
heavytlc Rock God Join Date: Sep 2001 Member # 6946 Location: nc/sc Posts: 1,382	Rick you are too funny.For some reason I am still laughing.You speek the truth. I thought with the present situation in the usa the price of cruisers would go down, but for now it seems they have just stabilized. THEY ARE STILL DOING BETTER THAN MY STOCKS.I should be done with the 45 (rolling not running in 3 months) I think when it is finished I will look for a bj like we discused. Are you still working on the floorpans/body sheetmetal for the wagons.

11-28-2001, 08:39 PM	#11 (permalink)
Taylor Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 273 Location: Geyserville Ca Posts: 226	FJ45 Wagons and Trucks Rick How have you been? We have Two Fj45 wagons and Two Fj45 swb Trucks and now Two FJ 45 lwb trucks We are trying to keep the 45s alive and well. Hope every one else does the same. Taylors __________________ Taylor

12-03-2001, 12:11 AM	#12 (permalink)
calfj60 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Member # 7180 Location: Closer to the airport than the ocean Posts: 813	Rick, good to see you answering the 45 wagon qustions. How is your project going? got any pics? also how do I go about registering my wagon? thanks

12-03-2001, 07:47 PM	#13 (permalink)
orangefj45 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Member # 6816 Location: Fawk if I know Posts: 15,280	rick! your input is always great and well apreciated. hope everybody here allready knows about the 45 run we're planning for next august at bassey falls up by rubicon. are you coming rick? you absolutely must! can't wait for the camp fire stories! cheers, georg! __________________ Maybe you outta stick to legos!

12-04-2001, 06:22 AM	#14 (permalink)
rick d Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Member # 1849 Location: old pueblo Posts: 493	Errr, ummm, I am stalled in the bodywork phase. I am also a bit financially held up to get things done on the wagon. Tim, the chassis is like you saw it, but I am progressing on the body slowly. A 70 series dash in a 40 series is not an easy thing. So Georg, I won't be making the run in my machine. Dough you know!? rick

12-04-2001, 11:13 AM	#16 (permalink)
calfj60 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Member # 7180 Location: Closer to the airport than the ocean Posts: 813	Toytech yeah but if I sold you the old 40, then I would be back in the same place. All dead cruisers:-( I acn only have so many non-working cruisers at once. And since the 60 and 45 aren't anywhere running I need atleast one to keep me happy. So sorry no sale.

12-04-2001, 11:19 AM	#17 (permalink)
60seriesguy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Member # 3942 Location: Round Rock, TX Posts: 2,288	He, he, the classic "too many Cruisers dilemma"! I love it when my friends get into these situations (often), it makes me feel better about my own stalled project. Besides, it makes me (a single-Cruiser Cruiserhead) look like a rock star in front of my wife, thus making approval of funds for my project more feasible. I know this doesn't apply to CalFJ60, but he scored a wife who's actually into Cruisers, mine's tolerant but not an enthusiast...

12-04-2001, 11:27 AM	#18 (permalink)
calfj60 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Member # 7180 Location: Closer to the airport than the ocean Posts: 813	60 cruiser guy, hey thanks for the credit regarding my wife but I wouldn't go that far. She likes my cruisers and is tolorant of my projects but what she wants is a truck of her own and only you know what that is:-) Thanks for that email address and maybe we will see you out west again soon.

12-04-2001, 11:36 AM	#19 (permalink)
60seriesguy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Member # 3942 Location: Round Rock, TX Posts: 2,288	Well, at least she likes them! My wife wants her own Cruiser too, but it's an FZJ80...YIKES! You'll definitely see me on the other coast soon, I'm shooting for late 2002 or early 2003. Once I'm back, you won't be able to drag me back to the East Coast with wild horses...

12-04-2001, 04:25 PM	#22 (permalink)
calfj60 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Member # 7180 Location: Closer to the airport than the ocean Posts: 813	hell if it was up to me, I would be up for a RHD with 4 doors and a stinky motor But you know how the government frowns on stuff like that. so we will hve to do without or settle on a standard U.S. one.:-(

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