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Robert Pyron · 08-21-2003, 11:22 AM

What is a good source for manual brake line locks and hand throttles ?

GloNDark · 08-21-2003, 11:30 AM

Summit racing has the line locks. I just ordered mine for the cruiser. Gonna lock just the front so I can do burn outs at Hot August Nights next year.

fj40crusher · 08-21-2003, 12:18 PM

How does the line lock work? I know what it does, but how does it install on a cruiser?

Robert Pyron · 08-21-2003, 12:29 PM

It installs in the brake line between the master cylinder and the caliper or wheel cylinder. The racers use electric but those are eather on or off. ( no modulation) Manual works best in my humble opinion for rocks. when you depress the brake pedal and activate the line lock ( electric or manual ) then let off the brake pedal the line lock traps the pressurized brake fluid between the line lock and the brake. Keeping the brake applied untill you release it. Very handy for those of us still running carbs that like to kill the engine at extreme angles and have not mastered the whole three pedal two foot thing.

krcruiser · 08-21-2003, 01:31 PM

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Gonna lock just the front so I can do burn outs at Hot August Nights next year.

Right order house wrong part , Isn't that what they make nitrous for

jssena · 08-21-2003, 01:46 PM

I got mine from a local dune buggy supply. Really cheap and has been working for almost 2 years now.

GloNDark · 08-21-2003, 02:14 PM

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Originally posted by krcruiser

Right order house wrong part , Isn't that what they make nitrous for

Nitrous?? hahaha I just want to be able to look the front, light em up and burn off a set of used 35"s in 1 or 2 settings.

hahaha it will burn em now, no doubt about it, but it's usually associated with 2 gear, lots of RPM and launching towards the 100k nova in front of you.

CruisD64 · 08-21-2003, 02:28 PM

Line Lock works ok but its definitely not an E-Brake. The only problem is, if your brakes go out, so does your line lock. We were able to get my bros cruiser to pass inspection with Line lock. The inspection to get that BAR sticker..... I would eventually get a mechanical hand brake but thats just me.

CruisD64 · 08-21-2003, 02:30 PM

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Originally posted by GloNDark
Summit racing has the line locks. I just ordered mine for the cruiser. Gonna lock just the front so I can do burn outs at Hot August Nights next year.

I remember a few years ago I saw a white cruiser drive through hot august nights. It had silver flames and a chrome roll cage. It was pretty sweet minus the chrome cage...

texican · 08-21-2003, 02:31 PM

Line locks will bleed off, we have had them on wreckers for years, and they will hold for a few minutes with no re-pump.
Butch

Medusa · 08-21-2003, 02:50 PM

I have two of the Sam Biondo Racing units on the FJ45. These are electrical and rated at 3000 psi.

I have had a manual Mico Lock on my Fj40 for almost five years now and it holds pressure for several hours (i.e., very little bleed down).

While I admit that line locks will not work if the brake line fails, you should also admit that a stock LC parking brake will not work if the transfer case breaks and the rear output gear separates. Personally, I have seen a lot more broken transfer cases that resulted in no parking brakes than I have seen broken brake lines.

I don't want to start a poll, but how many have actually broken a brake line on their rigs?

Robert Pyron · 08-21-2003, 02:58 PM

I have the stock PB but it doesn't work worth a crap even with new shoe's. I manly want the line lock to free up a foot to get going again once I kill my eng. Does anyone sell the disc PB to replace the stock. Man a fre discontinued there's.

BJ On Roids · 08-21-2003, 03:21 PM

On mine I have another smaller master cylinder it operates on a push button as long as you hold the button it provides pressure. Its air operated.

SpaceGhost · 08-22-2003, 08:31 AM

I run those same units on my comp rig. One each front and rear. They allow you to set them, then apply pressure. I have no regrets. I used relays and the same switches ARB uses, Carlingswitch brand.

Assuming my drivelines don't break, I am pretty confisent my junk won't move with them set, the tranny in low/reverse and both tcases in low. The traction of the tires becomes the limiting factor!

Robert Pyron · 08-22-2003, 12:18 PM

I ordered one from summit last night. Thanks for the help.

BJ On Roids · 08-22-2003, 02:36 PM

As old a brake lines as I have used, I have never broken one. Yes I have split an old transfer case in half.

swon · 08-23-2003, 09:31 AM

I bought my linelock from FROR. It came with the metric brake lines and everything needed for the install. No, it does not replace your emergency brake but why would you want it to? I plan to use it during wheeling, only if the 40 needs to stay put for a few minutes. Don't forget to use a good covered aircraft type switch. My kit came with one.
swon

Free · 08-24-2003, 10:07 AM

FROR
Where and what is FROR? How do I contact them?

Vortec_Cruiser · 08-24-2003, 03:41 PM

I'm running the Biondo line locks (Summit Racing) both front and rear, with independent switches. I am very pleased with their operation.

Vortec_Cruiser · 08-24-2003, 03:44 PM

Here's the rear line lock.

08-21-2003, 11:22 AM	#1 (permalink)
Robert Pyron Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Member # 21597 Location: Round Mtn Nevada Posts: 22	line locks What is a good source for manual brake line locks and hand throttles ?

08-21-2003, 11:30 AM	#2 (permalink)
GloNDark Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Dec 2000 Member # 2482 Location: Yo momma house Posts: 11,731	Summit racing has the line locks. I just ordered mine for the cruiser. Gonna lock just the front so I can do burn outs at Hot August Nights next year. __________________ GET IT Dave!! save me a spot bro......i'll miss you...

08-21-2003, 12:18 PM	#3 (permalink)
fj40crusher Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Member # 18853 Location: washington state Posts: 290	How does the line lock work? I know what it does, but how does it install on a cruiser? __________________ 97 fzj80, 85 fj60, 74 fj40 w/ M-416

08-21-2003, 02:31 PM	#10 (permalink)
texican Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Member # 12349 Location: Bonham Texas Posts: 6,609	Line locks will bleed off, we have had them on wreckers for years, and they will hold for a few minutes with no re-pump. Butch __________________ Conflict is inevitable..... Combat is optional.... Tires are like boobs, they always look big until you have played with them for a while, then you just want a bigger set. [URL=http://www.lslc.org/]Lone Star Land Cruisers[/URL] [URL=http://www.khyi.com/]Support Texas Music[/URL]

08-21-2003, 02:50 PM	#11 (permalink)
Medusa Old Rock Doc Join Date: May 2000 Member # 915 Location: Fargher Lake FrankenCruiser Lab Posts: 1,649	I have two of the Sam Biondo Racing units on the FJ45. These are electrical and rated at 3000 psi. I have had a manual Mico Lock on my Fj40 for almost five years now and it holds pressure for several hours (i.e., very little bleed down). While I admit that line locks will not work if the brake line fails, you should also admit that a stock LC parking brake will not work if the transfer case breaks and the rear output gear separates. Personally, I have seen a lot more broken transfer cases that resulted in no parking brakes than I have seen broken brake lines. I don't want to start a poll, but how many have actually broken a brake line on their rigs? Last edited by Medusa; 08-21-2003 at 02:53 PM.

08-21-2003, 12:29 PM	#4 (permalink)
Robert Pyron Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Member # 21597 Location: Round Mtn Nevada Posts: 22	It installs in the brake line between the master cylinder and the caliper or wheel cylinder. The racers use electric but those are eather on or off. ( no modulation) Manual works best in my humble opinion for rocks. when you depress the brake pedal and activate the line lock ( electric or manual ) then let off the brake pedal the line lock traps the pressurized brake fluid between the line lock and the brake. Keeping the brake applied untill you release it. Very handy for those of us still running carbs that like to kill the engine at extreme angles and have not mastered the whole three pedal two foot thing.

08-21-2003, 01:46 PM	#6 (permalink)
jssena Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Member # 4286 Location: Central Calif Posts: 197	I got mine from a local dune buggy supply. Really cheap and has been working for almost 2 years now.

08-21-2003, 02:28 PM	#8 (permalink)
CruisD64 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Member # 7856 Location: San Francisco/San Jose Posts: 571	Line Lock works ok but its definitely not an E-Brake. The only problem is, if your brakes go out, so does your line lock. We were able to get my bros cruiser to pass inspection with Line lock. The inspection to get that BAR sticker..... I would eventually get a mechanical hand brake but thats just me.

08-21-2003, 02:58 PM	#12 (permalink)
Robert Pyron Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Member # 21597 Location: Round Mtn Nevada Posts: 22	I have the stock PB but it doesn't work worth a crap even with new shoe's. I manly want the line lock to free up a foot to get going again once I kill my eng. Does anyone sell the disc PB to replace the stock. Man a fre discontinued there's.

08-21-2003, 03:21 PM	#13 (permalink)
BJ On Roids Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Member # 6588 Location: 'Straya....mate Posts: 7,434	On mine I have another smaller master cylinder it operates on a push button as long as you hold the button it provides pressure. Its air operated. __________________ [COLOR=yellow]Bj on Roids 1970FJ45, Quad Cam V8, Auto, Broken T-case, H-TEC (traction control and cutting brakes) 42 TSLs.[/COLOR] [COLOR=green][URL=http://www.outerlimits4x4.com]Aussie Wheelers Bulletin Board[/URL] [/COLOR]

08-22-2003, 08:31 AM	#14 (permalink)
SpaceGhost Registered User Join Date: Aug 2000 Member # 1599 Location: Indianapolis, IN. Home of the Brickyard 400, Indy 500, and USGP! Posts: 1,557	I run those same units on my comp rig. One each front and rear. They allow you to set them, then apply pressure. I have no regrets. I used relays and the same switches ARB uses, Carlingswitch brand. Assuming my drivelines don't break, I am pretty confisent my junk won't move with them set, the tranny in low/reverse and both tcases in low. The traction of the tires becomes the limiting factor! __________________ Mike "SpaceGhost" Smythe R U gettin' it? UROC Team #180 running: BFG's 37" Krawlers, Gordon Beadlocks, HP60's, T-Max w/Blue Diamond Rope, Green Filters, Marlin's ToyBox, 3.8 Atlas II, and "I got the shaft from Jesse" but I couldn't have done without Badlands Machine Shop (765-762-2981)!

08-22-2003, 12:18 PM	#15 (permalink)
Robert Pyron Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Member # 21597 Location: Round Mtn Nevada Posts: 22	I ordered one from summit last night. Thanks for the help.

08-22-2003, 02:36 PM	#16 (permalink)
BJ On Roids Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Member # 6588 Location: 'Straya....mate Posts: 7,434	As old a brake lines as I have used, I have never broken one. Yes I have split an old transfer case in half. __________________ [COLOR=yellow]Bj on Roids 1970FJ45, Quad Cam V8, Auto, Broken T-case, H-TEC (traction control and cutting brakes) 42 TSLs.[/COLOR] [COLOR=green][URL=http://www.outerlimits4x4.com]Aussie Wheelers Bulletin Board[/URL] [/COLOR]

08-23-2003, 09:31 AM	#17 (permalink)
swon Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17748 Location: West Virginia Posts: 160	I bought my linelock from FROR. It came with the metric brake lines and everything needed for the install. No, it does not replace your emergency brake but why would you want it to? I plan to use it during wheeling, only if the 40 needs to stay put for a few minutes. Don't forget to use a good covered aircraft type switch. My kit came with one. swon __________________ [img]http://www.rockcrawler.com/readersrides/photos/2475a.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.rockcrawler.com/readersrides/photos/2475b.jpg[/img]

08-24-2003, 10:07 AM	#18 (permalink)
Free Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Member # 12388 Location: Alaska Posts: 76	FROR Where and what is FROR? How do I contact them? __________________ Jeff Moore 77 FJ-40 "PJ" (350 TBI, SM465, SO, PS, 38.5 TSL Swampers) 94 FZJ80 (OME, ARB Bull bar) cruzer17@mtaonline.

08-24-2003, 03:44 PM	#20 (permalink)
Vortec_Cruiser Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Member # 17300 Location: So. California Posts: 2,405	Here's the rear line lock. Attached Images __________________ Ed Gilbert 1977 FJ40, 5.7L Vortec F-Toy #F006 build in-progress [email]vorteccruiser@charter.net[/email]

08-24-2003, 03:41 PM	#19 (permalink)
Vortec_Cruiser Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Member # 17300 Location: So. California Posts: 2,405	I'm running the Biondo line locks (Summit Racing) both front and rear, with independent switches. I am very pleased with their operation. Attached Images __________________ Ed Gilbert 1977 FJ40, 5.7L Vortec F-Toy #F006 build in-progress [email]vorteccruiser@charter.net[/email]

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